Four wounded in Halloween shooting at Los Angeles campus

[NYC Liberal]

Source: NDTV

Los Angeles: At least four people were wounded overnight in a shooting on the campus of the University of Southern California, police said early Thursday.

An officer with the Los Angeles Police Department confirmed there had been a shooting on campus and said four people had been taken to hospital, but could not immediately provide further details.

USC said on its website that a suspect was in custody following the shooting, which occurred at 11:30 pm (0630 GMT) Wednesday.

The campus emergency website urged students to stay away from the area, citing an "ongoing police investigation."

Read more: http://www.ndtv.com/article/world/four-wounded-in-halloween-shooting-at-los-angeles-campus-287129

[Kolesar]

1. Time for Wayne Lapierre to hold another National Bodybags Association rally out west? eom

[friendly_iconoclast]

7. Would that be: a) more, or b) less tasteful than a Brady Campaign lie-in?

Oh, do tell us...


http://metamorphosis.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1172&pid=36695

http://www.roanoke.com/news/nrv/wb/157483

Advocates of gun control plan lie-in at Virginia Tech
The student government at Virginia Tech asked protesters to demonstrate on a day besides April 16.

By Greg Esposito

BLACKSBURG -- Gun-control advocates planning to protest April 16 on Virginia Tech's Drillfield said Tuesday that they hope to reach a compromise with the university that will allow them to protest without interfering with remembrance events.

Peter Hamm, spokesman for the Brady Campaign to Stop Gun Violence, said the group has been working with Tech students on the protest. It would involve a 32-person "lie-in" at noon April 16, the one-year anniversary of campus shootings that left 32 people dead plus the shooter.

The Brady Campaign sent out a media advisory Thursday announcing the event, planned in conjunction with the gun-control group ProtestEasyGuns.com. Hamm said Tuesday that the gun-control groups had not discussed the event with the university.

Hamm was initially discouraged by what he saw as a hard-line stance by the university against issuing a permit and said Tuesday morning that the event would go ahead as scheduled -- permit or no permit....

Sauce for goose, meet gander...

[goclark]

21. Is there an update ?

[billh58]

2. But, if ALL

of the students were armed, none of this would have happened.

[PavePusher]

17. ...said by no-one, ever. n/t

[slackmaster]

3. Mental health care should be made available to all people free of charge

[montanto]

10. Another voice for sanity as solution!

[rDigital]

24. hear, hear! nt

[Arugula Latte]

4. Ain't that America.

The disgusting gun culture here makes me sick.

[hack89]

6. What about the drug and crime culture?

does that make you sick as well?

[maxsolomon]

11. was this related to that culture?

Or are you threadjacking?

Senseless Gun Violence, happening over and overn and over, year after year, makes me sick.

[Remmah2]

13. Correction

It's senseless violence, is "gun violence" any different than any other kind of violence? Does it hurt more or less, are you more or less dead?

Violence is the symptom of a declining morality. You can't legislate morality.

[psychopomp]

20. It's easier to shoot ten people than to stab ten

I live in Japan, where sporadic violence seems to be on the rise. The number of victims in a spree attack is usually limited to around 2-5, the worst in recent memory being the incident (last year?) when a man drove into a crowd of people near a train station.

Most violence is done with knives or other stabby things. Killing at that range is much harder for most people. Source:

On Killing

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0316330116

[Art_from_Ark]

23. If you're thinking about the Akihabara massacre,

that was already 4+ years ago (June '08). Some crazy guy drove a van into a crowded street that was being used as a weekend pedestrian mall, then he got out of the van and started hacking away at people with knives. I think the final death toll was around 15, with many more injured. He chose that particular place because it would be extremely crowded with nowhere for his victims to run .

I don't know if sporadic violence is on the rise or not here (Japan), but I am certainly glad that we don't have a bunch of gun-toting fruitcakes here, because the violence rate would certainly be higher than it is now.

[psychopomp]

26. Most observers would probably agree

Easy access to firearms would likely result in many more scores being settled on the spot and an increase in the rate of family murder-suicides, which already appear with alarming frequency these days in Japan.

I'm terrible at remembering exactly when certain news stories occurred when they are sporadic and unconnected to any broader context. Not surprised it's been so long, it was so shocking it still seems fresh.

I think you will agree that the number of stories in the last three years or so where the culprit says something like "I wanted to stab/kill somebody" is probably higher than the last fifteen. Seems so, anyway. Thank goodness those kooks didn't have guns.

[hack89]

15. Senseless criminal behavior happening over and over again.

why not focus on the criminals instead of their tools?

The vast majority of gun owners are not violent - most violent criminals cannot legally own guns either because of their age or prior criminal records. The "culture" at fault here is the one of violent street gangs and other common felons.

[maxsolomon]

16. Violent crime is at an all time low in America.

Senseless Gun Violence, which I distinguish as being Amoklauf killings, Familicides, Spouse Killings, are what make me sick. It is largely committed by mentally ill people with little criminal records if any. Aurora. Virginia Tech. Cafe Racer. Et cetera.

Was this related to Drug Crime?

[hack89]

18. Sounds like you are concerned about mental health issues

the solution is single payer health care with mental health coverage. Correct?

[Arugula Latte]

12. Gun violence isn't crime?

The drug culture -- well, what makes me sick about that is the resources and lives we waste putting people in prison for smoking/buying pot. But that's another issue.

[hack89]

14. But owning guns is not intrinsically violent nor are most gun owners violent people

so why is the knee jerk reaction to condemn the "gun culture" when more than likely the shooters were merely criminals?

[billh58]

19. I don't believe that

it is so much a culture, as it is a cult which glorifies violence and promotes the "eye-for-an-eye" concept of justice.

[hack89]

5. USC is surrounded by some pretty rough neighborhoods. nt

[goclark]

8. I attended USC

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and the neighborhood has changed a lot.

The housing prices near the campus are $$$$'s now and USC has purchased a lot of the homes/ land around it.

Of course there are "bad guys" around in most major cities -- even near Hollywood - lots of people living in the streets of Culver City and Hollywood to just name two.

[Liberal_in_LA]

9. yes, USC owns a lot of homes and LOTS of property around its campus.

[goclark]

22. Here is an Update

http://www.wgntv.com/news/ktla-usc-halloween-party-shooting,0,2140071.story?track=rss

[slackmaster]

25. "Police described the on-campus shooting as an isoalted incident."