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Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 06:32 AM Oct 2012

After Sandy, FEMA Goes From Goat to Glory

Source: ABC News


Waves generated from the remnants Hurricane Sandy crash into the shoreline of Lake Michigan in Chicago, Oct. 30, 2012. (Scott Olson/Getty Images)

By ABBY D. PHILLIP

Oct. 31, 2012

The Federal Emergency Management Agency, usually the favorite whipping boy of politicians during disasters, is basking in unaccustomed glory.

FEMA, ridiculed after Hurricane Katrina and the subject of proposed budget cuts after the financial crisis, is being praised by governors and mayors from storm-ravished states along the East Coast.

"I have to say, the administration, the president himself and FEMA Administrator Craig Fugate have been outstanding with us so far," said Republican New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie on "Good Morning America" Tuesday. "He worked

Mitt Romney, who said earlier this year that the states should have more responsibility for responding to natural disasters and suggested that sending disaster relief to the private sector would be "even better," would not answer repeated questions from reporters Tuesday about whether he would cut funding to FEMA.

Paul Ryan singled out FEMA's funding in his 2011 proposed budget, which was passed in the House but not the Senate. Ryan recommended a 40 percent cut in the budget for programs including FEMA, citing the record number of disasters declared during the Obama administration.



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After Sandy, FEMA Goes From Goat to Glory (Original Post) Douglas Carpenter Oct 2012 OP
I say bring it on Mitty and Ryan lunatica Oct 2012 #1
Exploring FreeperLand.. cyclezealot Oct 2012 #2
That's a funny attitude Shadowflash Oct 2012 #3
Took the words from my mouth Mike Daniels Oct 2012 #13
New Jersey and New York City are not exactly high-risk zones for hurricanes and tropical storms Douglas Carpenter Oct 2012 #4
NYC not in a high risk zone.. cyclezealot Oct 2012 #10
It is silly treestar Oct 2012 #25
Not so fast... lephty Oct 2012 #7
Your concern breaks my heart lunatica Oct 2012 #8
taking the long view lephty Oct 2012 #14
And what's so different about that? lunatica Oct 2012 #16
Whoa lephty Oct 2012 #17
we get an influx of RW trolls around election time... magical thyme Oct 2012 #18
Understood lephty Oct 2012 #21
My apologies lunatica Oct 2012 #27
IMHO, FEMA is the most politicized of the federal agencies. The least talented of SDjack Oct 2012 #5
Yes, Bush fired a very competent head of FEMA to make political paybacks justiceischeap Oct 2012 #12
FEMA was another thing the Clinton administration fixed and the Bush folks almost destroyed. kelliekat44 Oct 2012 #6
Which really paid off in the Northridge earthquake. onager Oct 2012 #20
Yes indeed TuxedoKat Nov 2012 #31
N/T dotymed Oct 2012 #9
"praised by governors and mayors from storm-ravished states along the East Coast." caraher Oct 2012 #11
Ravished. 1. To seize and carry away by force. This storm definately had some ravishing going on! AAO Oct 2012 #15
It carried away entire states? caraher Oct 2012 #19
It didn't carry away by force trees, buildings, and people? I think it fits fine. AAO Oct 2012 #22
Not fine. They chose the wrong word pure and simple. (nt) Nine Oct 2012 #26
You can have your opinion, I'll have mine... AAO Nov 2012 #29
Of course. :) Nine Nov 2012 #30
Well, this may be borderline bad form, but I've seen worse! Nice chatting with you, 9! AAO Nov 2012 #32
An op-ed I wrote after Irene and Lee eggplant Oct 2012 #23
Fema has always been setup with an East Coast bias itsrobert Oct 2012 #24
Read post #20 nt SOSpy Oct 2012 #28

cyclezealot

(4,802 posts)
2. Exploring FreeperLand..
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 07:21 AM
Oct 2012

In the blogs, have you ever experienced fools who claim, its the fault of those stupid people who live in risky areas and that we all have no responsibility for the misfortunes of those who live in areas subject to natural disasters..
And where do these smug idiots think, we as a species can escape risky terrains.. Yes, some areas are riskier than others. But, the whole planet is located in a high risk zone. Whether it be a gas line that explodes or a rash of tornadoes attacking Minneapolis.. These survivalists are idiots to think they can escape natural disasters.

Shadowflash

(1,536 posts)
3. That's a funny attitude
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 07:32 AM
Oct 2012

Coming from those people who live mostly in the bible belt and 'Tornado alley'.

Mike Daniels

(5,842 posts)
13. Took the words from my mouth
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 08:51 AM
Oct 2012

The Northeast gets hit by a hurricane or tropical storm about....maybe once a year?

Meanwhile the high-impact zones are the Gulf Coast, Souteastern seaboard and the Bible Belt (for tornados).

These morons would no doubt be singing a different song if heavily Republican regions in those zones were to have been hit by Sandy instead of the Northeast.

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
4. New Jersey and New York City are not exactly high-risk zones for hurricanes and tropical storms
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 07:38 AM
Oct 2012

I just don't know what alternative universe these people live in. In the olden days even conservative Republicans would have felt at least some sense of community responsibility and Christian oblige- This new brand of right-wingers have managed to turn the most banal form of narcissism into a Christian virtue.

cyclezealot

(4,802 posts)
10. NYC not in a high risk zone..
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 08:14 AM
Oct 2012

1. Every 1000 years NYC can experience a sizable earthquake that will level Brooklyn.. And likely cause a melt down at Indian Nuclear Power Plant.. 2.. NYC has been lucky with its indirect hits by several hurricanes over its history.. They have hit mostly Long Island , missing the Hudson River . Should a hurricane's eye head up the Hudson River, the surge could put NYC in as much risk as New Orleans. Example Yesterday , NYC had a 14 foot surge. Imagine if this had been a real hurricane , similar to Katrina. Some long term planners suggest NYC , in the future might even need 'floodgates,' similar to those being proposed for Venice, Italy..
The configuration of the Hudson estuary is perfect to channel water so that Manhattan could be completely covered. They have just been lucky . Luck has its limits.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
25. It is silly
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 11:55 AM
Oct 2012

When it comes to the beach areas - people can't avoid living in those and it would not be worth not having anyone live there.

lephty

(35 posts)
7. Not so fast...
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 07:52 AM
Oct 2012

The real work for FEMA has yet to begin. While I am hoping it does what it is designed to do, there will be bumps in the next days and weeks. How much those bumps are politicized depends on whether they happen before or after the election.

lephty

(35 posts)
14. taking the long view
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 09:05 AM
Oct 2012

There are bound to be issues here and there where some group/area is not getting the help it needs. It is such a large disaster area, I can't see this NOT happening. When (if) it does, FEMA will be targeted by those looking to make political hay.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
16. And what's so different about that?
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 09:28 AM
Oct 2012

Do you expect them to actually make points with anyone who they don't already have in the bag? Are you going to run to their side because FEMA isn't acting fucking fast enough?

Your worry is touching.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
18. we get an influx of RW trolls around election time...
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 10:22 AM
Oct 2012

and the closer we get to the election, the more people tend to overreact and/or misinterpret posts coming from somebody with a low post count.

Let me apologize on their behalf, and welcome to DU.

You make a good point...but right now, let's trust that FEMA under Prez Obama will come through and bask for a moment in the glory. All their jobs are on the line and they know it. And in their determination to have a "horse race" to boost ratings, the MSM has not allowed Prez Obama much credit for the good...





SDjack

(1,448 posts)
5. IMHO, FEMA is the most politicized of the federal agencies. The least talented of
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 07:42 AM
Oct 2012

every elected president's campaign team are offered positions in FEMA. It is a credit to Pres. Obama that his "least" talented campaign managers and staff are in fact highly capable people, not partisan hacks. Bushco used FEMA to help goper friends and to punish DEM foes.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
12. Yes, Bush fired a very competent head of FEMA to make political paybacks
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 08:28 AM
Oct 2012

from his campaign. At least President Obama was smart enough to hire the guy that has been handling hurricane relief efforts in Florida for years.

 

kelliekat44

(7,759 posts)
6. FEMA was another thing the Clinton administration fixed and the Bush folks almost destroyed.
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 07:52 AM
Oct 2012

Go back and check its history. Clinton made it a front and center in his cabinet and the GOP-Bush admin re-organized it and cut funds.
The GOP presidential appointees in the government tried their best to destroy it totally but did not succeed. It is really scaryto have the GOP in any part of our government.

onager

(9,356 posts)
20. Which really paid off in the Northridge earthquake.
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 10:47 AM
Oct 2012

(Resonse to Kelliecat44)

For those who don't remember, Los Angeles Jan. 1994. I lived just a couple of miles from the epicenter of that quake.

Two major freeways collapsed, virtually paralyzing traffic. Apt. buildings and homes flattened, sometimes burying the occupants. The quake hit at 4:30 in the morning so most people were still home.

Gas and water lines ruptured. I'll never forget the sight of flaming natural gas floating on the water in the streets. So no gas, water or electricity for about a week.

FEMA hit the ground running. Their local office in my neighborhood was open within a couple days after the quake, providing emergency relief etc. In fact, I was amazed at how quickly they responded. And of course, Clinton himself dropped in to tell us more help was on the way.

Heckuva job!

TuxedoKat

(3,818 posts)
31. Yes indeed
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 10:46 AM
Nov 2012

FEMA worked great when Pres. Clinton ran it and now it is running as it should with Pres. Obama, another democratic president running it. Hope that message gets through to some undecided voters.

caraher

(6,279 posts)
11. "praised by governors and mayors from storm-ravished states along the East Coast."
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 08:16 AM
Oct 2012

So the storms "ravished" those states? Really?

r-a-v-a-g-e-d

 

AAO

(3,300 posts)
15. Ravished. 1. To seize and carry away by force. This storm definately had some ravishing going on!
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 09:26 AM
Oct 2012

caraher

(6,279 posts)
19. It carried away entire states?
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 10:34 AM
Oct 2012

Wasn't quite THAT awesome in its power!

A better fit is definitely

Ravage. 1. Cause severe and extensive damage to

Nine

(1,741 posts)
30. Of course. :)
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 09:35 AM
Nov 2012

English mistakes like that just bug me because they remind me how far journalistic standards in general have fallen.

eggplant

(3,914 posts)
23. An op-ed I wrote after Irene and Lee
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 11:29 AM
Oct 2012

Our faith in our government was restored in the past month, after Tropical Storms Irene and Lee made their way across the Northeast. We consider ourselves very lucky. We sustained major damage to our property, but nobody was injured. Our house was mostly undamaged, except for some flooding in our basement. We have seen the devastation that our neighbors and nearby towns suffered, and we count our blessings.

Like most Americans, we remember the haunting images of Katrina and its aftermath. We remember the formaldehyde-laden trailers. We remember the Superdome, the failed levees, the complete indifference and political infighting. We remember “Heck of a job, Brownie” as the hallmark of government incompetence.

It took three weeks for my insurance company to bother to send an adjuster to our house after the August storms, and we’re still fighting with them over what, in the grand scheme of things, is a minor claim to them. We have experienced insurance claims in the past – minor fender benders and the like – and they are typically businesslike, bureaucratic processes that, in the end, leave you feeling worn out but hopefully at least compensated for your loss. It’s always a fight, it’s always stressful, and we’ve certainly never felt whole afterwards.

We contrast this with our experience dealing with FEMA. On Friday, September 9th, we went online to DisasterAssistance.gov and filled out a simple form requesting help. Two days later, on a Sunday – and not just any Sunday, but the 10th anniversary of the WTC attacks – the nicest gentleman from FEMA came to our house, surveyed our property, asked whether we had all of the basic necessities to get by; a working stove, furnace, clean water, dehumidifiers to prevent mold growth, and so on. He explained that FEMA’s job was not to rebuild everything, but to ensure we could get through the immediate crisis. The very next day, we received an email from FEMA telling us they were offering us a grant to help pay for the cost of ensuring that our appliances were all safe and functional, and to help rebuild our completely destroyed driveway. Through direct deposit, the money was in our bank account 48 hours later.

The gentleman from FEMA made sure to point us to all of the other resources available to us to help with the rest of our recovery. The SBA offered us a long-term, low-interest rate loan to help us repair our land, remove debris, and make everything nice again. They included funds to help prevent future disasters. The IRS extended filing deadlines for people in disaster areas. Crisis counseling is available to help people cope with the stress. Social Security and the Veterans Administrations are there to help make sure people don’t have to suffer any delays of services, and to expedite benefits claims. Unemployment Assistance is there for people who are unable to work because of disasters. And all of these services were made accessible after filling out one simple online form, or just by calling (800) 621-3362. At every step of the way, we were made to feel that we were citizens, and that they were there to serve our needs, and to help us weather our personal storm and to come out the other side undamaged, both physically and emotionally.

This is truly government of the people, by the people, and for the people. This is how it is supposed to work. All of the hardworking staff at FEMA, SBA, IRS, and all of the other agencies are working tirelessly to help those people truly in need, and they all deserve our thanks and support.

itsrobert

(14,157 posts)
24. Fema has always been setup with an East Coast bias
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 11:50 AM
Oct 2012

Of course that may be due to population, but it has to do a lof of where they are headquartered.

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