Leave 'no trace of him behind, down to the hair': North Korean official 'executed with mortar round'

[Turborama]

Source: The Independent (UK)

...after drinking during mourning period for Dear Leader, Kim Jong-il

By ROB WILLIAMS

Thursday October 25 2012

A North Korean army minister has reportedly been executed after drinking during the mourning period for Kim Jong-il.

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The execution of the army minister is seen as part of a purge of members of the North Korean military who might threaten the fledgling regime of Kim Jong-un.

It is thought that up to 14 senior officials could have been killed since the new regime took over, according to intelligence data provided to Yoon Sang-hyun, a member of the South Korean Foreign Affairs, Trade and Unification Committee.

Those that are also thought to have fallen from favour include Ri Yong-ho, the head of the army and Ri Kwang-gon, the governor of the North Korean central bank.

Read more: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/leave-no-trace-of-him-behind-down-to-the-hair-north-korean-official-executed-with-mortar-round-after-drinking-during-mourning-period-for-dear-leader-kim-jongil-8226398.html

[hifiguy]

1. This would be porn for Dickkk Cheney.

Sick, sick, sick.

[davidpdx]

7. I was thinking it's too bad it wasn't Dick Cheney

Penance for his evilness.

[marble falls]

17. I know you're just "saying" not really suggesting it, even though we all allow we may have...

inadvertently smiled when that slipped off your keyboard. Maybe just a bit of shotgun to the right side of the face. Just saying.

You know he got shot in the face himself about eight years earlier by a friend up in Wyoming and the word was that Dickless Cheney got totally bent out of shape over it. The guy from Austin he shot apologized for Dickless shooting him.

[davidpdx]

24. True, I'd rather see him in a work camp

Maybe he'd lose a little weight.

[marble falls]

26. Cheney on a chain gang in orange or back and whites ..... I'd pay to see it.

[Shuhered]

2. What A Sick, Destroyed Country

What a petulant little weirdo this kid is. He grew in such an odd way with the strange methods of a paranoid parent/ government always present. But he is responsible for his actions and will no doubt reside under Saddam Hussein's bunk in Hell for these crimes against humanity.

[fingrinn]

3. Invade, invade,invade!!!!!

Dontcha love these stories with words like "thought" and "reportdly" I would prefer to wait for proof.

[FrodosPet]

15. North Korea is a model of transparency

If something like that happened, the independent media of the People's Republic of Korea would be all over it. Silence from them, so it never happened!

Unlike the American MSM, beholden to the corporatist oligarchy, the North Korean press is willing to tell the truth about what is happening in their nation. And the truth is that they have been blessed by strong, wise, humane leaders who have, and continue to, lift their country to heights of prosperity under the Juche Ideal.

(I want to joke even more, but the conditions those poor crushed people are living under thanks to the sadistic, greedy egos of the "Great" Leader, the "Dear" leader, and the "WhateverTheHellTheyAreCallingThatPOSinCharge" Leader is pretty damn depressing)

[fingrinn]

4. Are you refering to

Saddams crimes before of After he was supported by America?

[billh58]

12. Lost, are we? n/t

[antigone382]

16. That doesn't singify being lost.

It signifies awareness that we supported Saddam under the Reagan administration, right down to Donald Rumsfeld shaking his hand, before deciding it was to our strategic advantage to take issue with some of his autocratic policies.

[Rhiannon12866]

28. Good point.

During the Iran-Iraq war in the '80s, Saddam was our ally. There was no way that Iraq could have held its own against an enemy three times its size without support from the US. Reminds me of one of my favorite classic Mark Fiore videos:

http://www.markfiore.com/animation/whoops.html

[jmowreader]

5. I wonder which is really.more barbaric

Blowing someone to bits with a mortar, causing instant death...

Or strapping someone to a table and giving them just enough anesthetic they wake up to find they're completely paralyzed and can't breathe, then they get hit with another chemical that causes searing pain over their whole body until their heart stops.and their brain shuts down.

The US has no right to judge the barbarism of an execution when we use the worst one that's ever been invented.

[Ian David]

6. It would be more humane to strap explosives to their head. n/t

[Renew Deal]

8. Either you're exaggerating or you know little about human history

Lethal injection isn't even close to the "worst one" ever used. Just ask Joan of Arc.

[Dr. Strange]

10. The worst?

We don't even break the top ten:

http://listverse.com/2007/09/12/top-10-gruesome-methods-of-execution/

[MicaelS]

11. The worst? Then let's go back to the firing squad.

In a public place that is designated for executions, so the public can witness them, and at high noon.

None of this hidden shit at midnight.

[jmowreader]

20. Or for high drama, public guillotinings

About 30-40 years ago, capital punishment was at a crossroads: adopt the "more humane" method of lethal.injection or abolish it altogether. France couldn't decide, so one of the abolitionists proposed retaining the guillotine but adding to the jury instructions a description of the procedure.

After 15 years of juries not being able to bring themselves to send men to be chopped in two, the punishment was quietly swept into the pages of history.

[AtheistCrusader]

14. How about having your head bound with wood, tied upside down to a stake and burned alive?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giordano_Bruno

I'm thinking that one sucks. Not on my list of ways to go.

[Union Scribe]

30. Dunno which conveys less knowledge of history

your post or your sig.

[Ash_F]

9. US executes political dissidents in this manner with regularity.

It's barbaric no matter who does it.

[xtraxritical]

13. Are you kidding? Is this sarcasm? How about some credible links?

[Ash_F]

21. I invite you to study the history of the Iraq war

Libya and the current situation in Pakistan.

[xtraxritical]

40. I trust President Obama's finger on the trigger and I'm glad he's got my six.

[Octafish]

43. Here you go.

The CIA and the Drones: How the Agency Became 'One Hell of a Killing Machine'

[daleo]

25. North Korea only executed one man with the mortar

Predator drones routinely take out many at a time, including innocent bystanders. I have read that the double tap is often used too. Check out journalist Gwynne Dyer for details.

The North Korean guy probably got atrial, too, though probably not a fair trial.

[fil62793skx]

29. uh-huh..

[daleo]

41. So you agree with me, then

Here's the Gwynne Dyer article.

http://www.straight.com/article-790781/vancouver/gwynne-dyer-doubletap-drone-attacks-are-truly-shameful

[Uncle Joe]

18. That nation will need some serious counseling after they get out from under their jackbooted,

ass wipe, dictator.

Thanks for the thread. Turborama.

[jonthebru]

19. It amazes me that there aren't more of these people coming across.

I guess that shows the power of Institutional brainwashing.
The psychological paranoia must be really bad. I have always noted that the best job in North Korea for an average Joe would be the military, this kind of changes this observation.
Executed with a mortar round indeed.
I have always believed that North Korea is a much bigger threat than Iran...

[grantcart]

22. More coming across? How would they make it?

There is no viable direct route from North to South.

The only way out it is to escape to China and then get smuggled out from China to S Korea.

It is a torturous difficult journey but about 20,000 have made it.

If you are not successful you will not only find yourself in a dark NK prison but may also condemn your family to join you.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/23/world/asia/seoul-urges-china-to-not-return-north-korean-refugees.html



More than 20,000 North Koreans have defected to South Korea since a famine hit their homeland in the mid-1990s. Almost all of them traveled through China, with the help of Christian missionaries, human rights activists or smugglers. But Beijing considers them illegal migrants, and the Chinese police often round them up for repatriation.

Those who are sent back are treated as “traitors” and are incarcerated in re-education camps, where corporal punishment, forced labor and other human rights abuses remain rampant, according to North Koreans who have survived the camps and defected to South Korea.

Mindful of Beijing’s close ties with the North Korean government, South Korea has seldom confronted China over the issue of refugees. But in recent days, it has expressed frustration after low-key bilateral talks with Beijing failed to free the North Koreans

[Marrah_G]

36. Pretty sure i read somewhere that the families of escapees are sent to death camps

I feel so badly for the people trapped there.

[jmowreader]

23. North Korea has a conscript military

Everyone goes in at 18, stays two years and is discharged. They have sergeants major and field-grade officers (majors, colonels and generals) who have careers in the military, but they're a minority.

The job to have in that country would be bureaucrat.

[ronnie624]

27. I'm skeptical. n/t

[Ash_F]

34. This is as close to the original story I can find

The Independent cribbed it from the Telegraph

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/northkorea/9630509/North-Korean-army-minister-executed-with-mortar-round.html

It cites "South Korean media" but does not specify which agency. Whatever happened to journalism school?

[Union Scribe]

31. Certainly didn't take long for this thread

to become a study in "the US is as bad, if not worse." Sometimes posts here really do read like stereotypes.

[Ash_F]

33. It's hard to be critical of your own country, easier to be so towards another

It's ok to draw parallels when these stories pop up, if they are deserved, in the name of objectivity and self improvement.

[bemildred]

32. If this is true, I suspect this little weasel is not going to last as long as his dad.

But it seems a bit contrived, so I don't know.

[Marrah_G]

37. The people there are to afraid and paranoid of each other to do anything

If they step out of line even a little it is my understanding that their families are sent to starve to death in prisons.

[bemildred]

39. Yes, I understand. That won't save him when the time comes.

Have you heard of the 3rd generation rule? He's #3, and he shows all the signs.

http://www.vanityfair.com/online/daily/2010/04/will-the-three-generation-rule-topple-north-koreas-kims

[Ash_F]

35. So, in order to indulge myself, I checked the 3 largest SK news organizations

http://www.koreaherald.com/
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/index.asp
http://english.chosun.com/?gnb_bar

...and could not find any mention of this story. The OP's article cites another article which, in turn, ambiguously cites 'South Korean media'. What media? What is the the primary source? A news article should always have a primary source. I call BS until anything further pops up.

[Katashi_itto]

38. Ahh to do that to Bankers and their families....round them up and BOOM...that would set an example

and traumatize the Plutocrats for generations. A modern version of the French Revolution.

[BlueMan Votes]

42. How does being executed with a mortar round work?

do they launch it out of a tube at him, or just beat him over the head with it?

[Octafish]

44. Perfect for Banksters.

...and other traitors.