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dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 04:51 PM Oct 2012

NOAA to East: Beware of coming 'Frankenstorm'

Source: Associated Press

WASHINGTON — An unusual nasty mix of a hurricane and a winter storm that forecasters are now calling "Frankenstorm" is likely to blast most of the East Coast next week, focusing the worst of its weather mayhem around New York City and New Jersey.

Government forecasters on Thursday upped the odds of a major weather mess, now saying there's a 90 percent chance that the East will get steady gale-force winds, heavy rain, flooding and maybe snow starting Sunday and stretching past Halloween on Wednesday.

Meteorologists say it is likely to cause $1 billion in damages.

The storm is a combination of Hurricane Sandy, now in the Caribbean, an early winter storm in the West, and a blast of arctic air from the North. They're predicted to collide and park over the country's most populous coastal corridor and reach as far inland as Ohio.

Read more: http://www.courierpress.com/news/2012/oct/25/noaa-east-beware-coming-frankenstorm/

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NOAA to East: Beware of coming 'Frankenstorm' (Original Post) dipsydoodle Oct 2012 OP
I'm scared! luvspeas Oct 2012 #1
Good luck. DC could be Ground Zero for this one. Faygo Kid Oct 2012 #8
We recently sold our condo here and we now rent... luvspeas Oct 2012 #9
The airport might be socked in at that time. Look for an earlier flight. alfredo Oct 2012 #15
good luck barbtries Oct 2012 #38
New York Magazine has a pretty funny article about it and some of hte responses are pretty hilarious catbyte Oct 2012 #2
K&R - not because I LIKE the information Kber Oct 2012 #3
If it looks like snow or ice , and the leaves are still on the trees, be prepared for hedgehog Oct 2012 #4
Here in CT, the trees were so stressed this summer a lot of leaves have fallen already. infidel dog Oct 2012 #13
When bongbong Oct 2012 #5
+100 lexx21 Oct 2012 #28
Sounds like the book/movie scenario of Bainbridge Bear Oct 2012 #6
oh man! Bye bye beach room, guess I won't be paying rental next year. hollysmom Oct 2012 #7
For D.C. people minkyboodle Oct 2012 #10
Latest forecast has the storm crouching on my roof as of 2 pm Tuesday starroute Oct 2012 #11
Where are you? My daughter is in college in Philly adigal Oct 2012 #12
I was hoping we could get out of this season without a gully washer. alfredo Oct 2012 #14
Have never heard of this combination of weather elements in my entire life. Judi Lynn Oct 2012 #16
Beethoven is reputed to have died after a huge thunderclap occurred Art_from_Ark Oct 2012 #18
Good grief! What a dramatic departure. Never knew about this. Thank you. n/t Judi Lynn Oct 2012 #21
Pretty sensitive for a deaf man cthulu2016 Oct 2012 #22
It could have been the flash of lightning that got his attention Art_from_Ark Oct 2012 #23
Well at least he didn't die of the clap dipsydoodle Oct 2012 #32
I experienced several thundersnows back in 2011. NutmegYankee Oct 2012 #20
Prepare for the worst, hope for the best. smirkymonkey Oct 2012 #17
Kick (nt) muriel_volestrangler Oct 2012 #19
FRANKENSTORM: The Mother Of All Snowicanes Is Barreling Toward New York City Baclava Oct 2012 #24
The Red Zone on your map is shaped like a question mark Berlum Oct 2012 #25
it's not "my" map - I look at the bigger picture Baclava Oct 2012 #26
Yup - but even the Big Picture "fluids in motion" image resembles a Question Mark Berlum Oct 2012 #29
can you question a question mark? Baclava Oct 2012 #33
Updated : Hurricane Sandy slogs toward U.S., kills 31 in Caribbean dipsydoodle Oct 2012 #27
kick OKNancy Oct 2012 #30
Why does this remind me of The Perfect Storm? Odin2005 Oct 2012 #31
US East Coast braced for downgraded storm Sandy dipsydoodle Oct 2012 #34
My daughter lives in North Wildwood New Jersey Corgigal Oct 2012 #35
"Super storm" Sandy regains hurricane strength dipsydoodle Oct 2012 #36
This is actually GREAT news, it allows us to see how Pres. Obama handles a disaster! BanTheGOP Oct 2012 #37

luvspeas

(1,883 posts)
1. I'm scared!
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 04:57 PM
Oct 2012

I hate storms and lived in Houston during Allison which was no joke. Now I have the pleasure of flying back to DC from Colorado on Monday night!!!!!

Faygo Kid

(21,478 posts)
8. Good luck. DC could be Ground Zero for this one.
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 05:17 PM
Oct 2012

Lot of computer models trending that way. I'm here, too, and with Pepco, probably looking at a week without power. Oh well, I won't miss the political ads!

luvspeas

(1,883 posts)
9. We recently sold our condo here and we now rent...
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 05:33 PM
Oct 2012

on the 7th floor of a nice heavy concrete building, so I'm not worried about the home front, I just want to get home in one piece. Also, my job is pretty much out to get me, so if I miss Tuesday, I could be fired. It's a shitty job, but I really want to collect unemployment.

barbtries

(28,799 posts)
38. good luck
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 02:02 PM
Oct 2012

i think you should make plans to stay an extra day or two, just in case.

my son's in Philly and i'm just trying to breathe because i'm worried sick.

catbyte

(34,403 posts)
2. New York Magazine has a pretty funny article about it and some of hte responses are pretty hilarious
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 04:58 PM
Oct 2012
http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2012/10/hurricane-sandy-new-york-storm-snowicane.html

It Is Time to Start Freaking Out About Snowicane Sandy [Updated]

Kber

(5,043 posts)
3. K&R - not because I LIKE the information
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 04:58 PM
Oct 2012

but because I think people need to see it.

Thanks for posting.

hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
4. If it looks like snow or ice , and the leaves are still on the trees, be prepared for
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 04:59 PM
Oct 2012

an extended power outage! What happens is that the snow clings to the leaves and breaks a horrendous number of branches. It's not a case of replacing one downed line, but of going house to house re-connecting each house individually.

Within the affected area, roads will be blocked by fallen trees and gas stations will be closed until power is restored.

If you have people who need shelter right away, sometimes you can drive 10 miles and get out of the area of worst damage.

infidel dog

(273 posts)
13. Here in CT, the trees were so stressed this summer a lot of leaves have fallen already.
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 06:51 PM
Oct 2012

Lousy news environmentally, but it may reduce some damage. This hurricane is still pretty far south. Let's hope it veers farther out into the Atlantic.

 

bongbong

(5,436 posts)
5. When
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 04:59 PM
Oct 2012

When can we start suing climate change denialists for the cost of the storms their intransigence causes?

lexx21

(321 posts)
28. +100
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 07:45 AM
Oct 2012

The fact of global warming that most of the deniers don't seem to understand is that the energy from the melting poles has to go somewhere, and this is what happens.

 

Bainbridge Bear

(155 posts)
6. Sounds like the book/movie scenario of
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 05:02 PM
Oct 2012

The Perfect Storm. I can't help thinking that this "early Winter storm" is part of a pattern that will become the new normal in the future. Of course the deniers like Limbaugh and Sen. James Inhofe will claim that this is just part of natural variation. The global CO2 ppm is currently more than 392 and rising.

hollysmom

(5,946 posts)
7. oh man! Bye bye beach room, guess I won't be paying rental next year.
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 05:03 PM
Oct 2012

have to drive down tonight and pack things up and bring them home, the TV, the DVD player, the boogie boards, the shoes.... empty the fridge, turn off the electricity, etc. , then clean up around the house.

minkyboodle

(1,977 posts)
10. For D.C. people
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 05:52 PM
Oct 2012

Latest tracks put DC on the southeast of the eye not where the worst storm surge could be. I am travelling
this weekend I'll be watching things closely as always subject to change they should know a lot more by saturday.
FYI
Scott

starroute

(12,977 posts)
11. Latest forecast has the storm crouching on my roof as of 2 pm Tuesday
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 06:27 PM
Oct 2012

I mean, it's one thing to have the forecast track passing over you -- but when that little green spiral is drawing a bullseye directly on top of you? Not fun.



Judi Lynn

(160,545 posts)
16. Have never heard of this combination of weather elements in my entire life.
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 08:24 PM
Oct 2012

However, how many of us ever experienced thunder during snow storms as children?

Surely hope our imaginations far exceed what we'll see from this Frankenstorm.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
23. It could have been the flash of lightning that got his attention
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 05:46 AM
Oct 2012

Or the thunderclap may have been so loud that even he could have heard it.

Or maybe the vibration from the sound rattled him.

NutmegYankee

(16,199 posts)
20. I experienced several thundersnows back in 2011.
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 04:48 AM
Oct 2012

Connecticut got buried that winter by several huge snow storms.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
17. Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 09:26 PM
Oct 2012

I don't think this will be as bad as they are saying. It never is. But still, it is wise to prepare for it just in case.

 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
24. FRANKENSTORM: The Mother Of All Snowicanes Is Barreling Toward New York City
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 06:19 AM
Oct 2012

..could result in "coastal flooding, flooding rainfall, high winds, downed trees, power outages, travel mayhem and even Appalachian snow" from Boston to DC (including New York City)

Mayor Michael Bloomberg advised New York City residents in flood-prone areas to "be prepared to evacuate" in a meeting with the Office of Emergency Management today




http://www.businessinsider.com/hurricane-sandy-could-hit-north-east-2012-10

Berlum

(7,044 posts)
25. The Red Zone on your map is shaped like a question mark
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 06:54 AM
Oct 2012

...with the bulge at the top of the question mark
coming to a point of focus on Washington DC
and what the old timers always spoke of as
The Eastern Door.

Berlum

(7,044 posts)
29. Yup - but even the Big Picture "fluids in motion" image resembles a Question Mark
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 08:02 AM
Oct 2012

Semiotics and semiology, that's me.

 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
33. can you question a question mark?
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 02:28 PM
Oct 2012

Last edited Sat Oct 27, 2012, 01:22 PM - Edit history (1)

Sandy is still looking pretty healthy though



dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
27. Updated : Hurricane Sandy slogs toward U.S., kills 31 in Caribbean
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 07:34 AM
Oct 2012

Last edited Fri Oct 26, 2012, 01:52 PM - Edit history (1)

(Reuters) - Slow-moving Hurricane Sandy, a late season Atlantic storm unlike anything seen in more than two decades, slogged toward the U.S. East Coast on Friday after killing at least 31 people on a trail of destruction across the Caribbean.

Forecasters said the storm, with an expanding wind field already 550 miles (890 km) wide, had begun merging with a polar air mass over the eastern United States, potentially spawning a "hybrid" super storm that could wreak havoc along the U.S. East Coast.

"Its structure is evolving as we speak because it's interacting with this weather feature at higher levels of the atmosphere," said Todd Kimberlain, a forecaster at the U.S. National Hurricane Center in Miami.

"The models are suggesting that the storm could actually become better organized or intensify a little bit, not due to the normal processes than we would expect for a tropical cyclone but more related this weather feature," Kimberlain said.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2012/10/26/uk-storm-sandy-hurricane-idUKBRE89P05H20121026

Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
31. Why does this remind me of The Perfect Storm?
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 08:55 AM
Oct 2012

A late-season hurricane merging with a Nor'easter. Only this time over land.

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
34. US East Coast braced for downgraded storm Sandy
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 08:40 AM
Oct 2012

27 October 2012 Last updated at 12:26pm UK time .

States of emergency have been declared in Maryland, New York, Pennsylvania, Virginia, Washington DC and a coastal county in North Carolina.

Sandy is no longer classified as a hurricane, but still carries maximum sustained winds of 70mph (110km/h).

The storm could strengthen before hitting the US late on Monday.

The US Navy base in Norfolk, Virginia, was reportedly sending a whole fleet of ships out to sea to avoid possible damage caused as the storm hits land.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-20109125

Corgigal

(9,291 posts)
35. My daughter lives in North Wildwood New Jersey
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 08:59 AM
Oct 2012

Thankfully she's on the second floor of her apt house. The street floods anytime it rains so everyone in that area has to go. The Coast Guard stationed at Cape May is meeting this am and probably telling everyone to leave. I'll find out shortly but I have no idea where she should head. We have a good friend in Baltimore but I'm being told that isn't a good choice either.

When she calls me later I have to give her some suggestions. She is watching a friends two cats but I told her not to bring them , just put lots of water/food down. However I told her to call the owner and see if that is Ok. We lost a cat years ago when evacuated for a hurricane , so I rather them stay put. I know when the storm blows over the Coast Guard will get to her place for those animals.

I also think most of the hotels are starting to fill up and now I reading power might be out in New Jersey for a full week. Ah stress.

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
36. "Super storm" Sandy regains hurricane strength
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 10:12 AM
Oct 2012

(Reuters) - Tropical cyclone Sandy revved back up to hurricane strength on Saturday as it churned toward the U.S. northeast coast where it threatens to become one of the worst storms in decades.

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"We're expecting a large, large storm," said Louis Uccellini, director of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's Center for Environmental Prediction. "The circulation of this storm as it approaches the coast could cover about the eastern third of the United States."

>

On its current projected track, Sandy could make U.S. landfall on Monday night or Tuesday somewhere between North Carolina and southern New England, forecasters said.

>

It had earlier dropped just below hurricane strength but little overall change on strength was expected ahead of its anticipated U.S. landfall early next week, the Miami-based Hurricane Center said.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2012/10/27/uk-storm-sandy-hurricane-idUKBRE89P05H20121027

 

BanTheGOP

(1,068 posts)
37. This is actually GREAT news, it allows us to see how Pres. Obama handles a disaster!
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 01:55 PM
Oct 2012

Everyone knows that President Obama is a great president in crises such as this, but he hasn't really had the opportunity to show everyone because of lack of such disasters in recent history. While the storm is unfortunate for some, the fact is that the world, the press, and most importantly, the undecided voters will see President Obama's GREAT leadership and organization skills. NO amount of campaigning can compensate this act, and even if Obama doesn't log one more mile on the campaign trail before the election, if he handles the emergency like we all know he will, there is NO WAY IN HELL that he loses the battleground states, ESPECIALLY in this tight period!

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