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highplainsdem

(49,004 posts)
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 03:04 PM Oct 2012

Obama and Romney tied in North Carolina

Source: Public Policy Polling

PPP's newest North Carolina poll finds Barack Obama and Mitt Romney tied at 48, representing a small shift in Obama's direction from a week and a half ago when Romney led 49-47. This now makes 27 out of 28 polls of the state PPP has conducted this cycle where the candidates have been within two points of each other.

Obama has built up a lead over the first week of the early voting period in the state. Among those who say they've already voted he's at 57% to 42% for Romney. Romney achieves the overall tie because of a 50/45 advantage among those yet to vote.

Obama's performance in the debate this week may be helping to pull him closer in the state. 50% of voters think he was the winner on Monday night to only 35% who think Romney was victorious, including a 51/21 spread among independents. He and Romney are now effectively tied among independent voters at 46/45, where Romney had a 54/40 advantage with them on our last poll.

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A key reason Obama remains competitive in North Carolina is that the Democratic base is extremely fired up. That's been reflected in the early voter turnout to date, and we also find that 77% of Democrats say they're 'very excited' to vote in the election this fall compared to 65% of Republicans. Among African Americans 83% say they're 'very excited' to cast their ballots.

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Read more: http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/10/obama-and-romney-tied-in-north-carolina.html

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Obama and Romney tied in North Carolina (Original Post) highplainsdem Oct 2012 OP
Yes, we can....and WILL! NRaleighLiberal Oct 2012 #1
DONATE TO MECKLENBURG COUNTY DEM PARTY for their GOTV efforts. blm Oct 2012 #8
Post removed Post removed Oct 2012 #2
hmmmmmmmmmmmmm cosmicone Oct 2012 #4
But Andrea Mitchell is still repeating the "no enthusiasm meme." Am I supposed to believe her or yellowcanine Oct 2012 #3
Maybe she's inadvetantly referrring to her sex life? JoePhilly Oct 2012 #13
Yes there is that possibility. But you can't judge a book by its cover. yellowcanine Oct 2012 #22
John Davis is NOT considered Right Wing by any means SuperSmooth Oct 2012 #5
You may be just saying, but, you've got it wrong - this is a dogfight here in NC. blm Oct 2012 #9
SuperSmooth John2 Oct 2012 #12
Thank Goodness!!! Shuhered Oct 2012 #17
the polls are only snapshot in time.subjective,voting is the only measure that counts -LOKI -BAD FOR YA Oct 2012 #29
This John Davis? The one you called a prominent Democratic strategist? gkhouston Oct 2012 #18
Darn John2 Oct 2012 #26
Oops. Looks as if you have been outed (See post 18). Maybe you ought to go back to wherever it is yellowcanine Oct 2012 #24
one guy one opinion one vote Democrats4All Oct 2012 #6
Crock. stlsaxman Oct 2012 #7
End of day yesterday... 991,788 had voted in North Carlinia almost 90% in person. 23% of 2008 vote Ellipsis Oct 2012 #10
At 7 pm tonight NC surpassed 1 million votes. bathroommonkey76 Oct 2012 #25
I voted today bluemarkers Oct 2012 #11
I am a White, Middle Age Male Shuhered Oct 2012 #16
sweet! bluemarkers Oct 2012 #21
Totally With You!!! Shuhered Oct 2012 #30
Bullshit! santamargarita Oct 2012 #14
GoBama applegrove Oct 2012 #15
Tar Heel Blue because Democratic Blue again in 2012 ! n/t politicaljack78 Oct 2012 #19
Amen - UNC '78 ItsTheMediaStupid Oct 2012 #20
Why is there so much lying about polls? skepticscott Oct 2012 #23
Thanks to the volunteers on the ground! TomCADem Oct 2012 #27
But, but ... Aren't corporations people, my friend? Arugula Latte Oct 2012 #28
Well Then... Shuhered Oct 2012 #31
I mailed in CRK7376 Oct 2012 #32
Therefore according to CNN NC is leaning RMoney.. bamacrat Oct 2012 #33

blm

(113,065 posts)
8. DONATE TO MECKLENBURG COUNTY DEM PARTY for their GOTV efforts.
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 03:33 PM
Oct 2012
http://www.mecklenburgdemocrat.org/

If we carry McCrory's county, we can defeat him and get Obama AND Dalton into office.

Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
3. But Andrea Mitchell is still repeating the "no enthusiasm meme." Am I supposed to believe her or
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 03:12 PM
Oct 2012

my lying eyes?

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
22. Yes there is that possibility. But you can't judge a book by its cover.
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 09:45 PM
Oct 2012

Alan could be a real stud for all we know.

SuperSmooth

(4 posts)
5. John Davis is NOT considered Right Wing by any means
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 03:17 PM
Oct 2012

Read his Bio

Also Davis was the first person to predict Obama would take NC in 2008 and was saying Obama would win big in NC when everyone else had given NC to Mc Lame.

Just saying

blm

(113,065 posts)
9. You may be just saying, but, you've got it wrong - this is a dogfight here in NC.
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 03:37 PM
Oct 2012

And no way is Romney as comfortable as some wish to pretend.

PS - in 2008 EVERYONE KNEW that ANY Dem was going to win in NC and everywhere else but KKK land. 8 years of George Bush could do that to a state and not many want to go back for a repeat.

 

John2

(2,730 posts)
12. SuperSmooth
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 04:11 PM
Oct 2012

I'm a North Carolinian and an African American at that. I'm a native North Carolina. I'm going to reveal something to you that I'm guilty of. I didn't vote in 2010. A lot of people I know didn't vote in 2010. The turnout was only 49 percent in 2010. If you are depending on 2010 as any indicator of the General Election, then you are a mistaken.

The only Polls that show Romney way ahead in North Carolina are Republican leaning Polls such as Rasmussen and Gravis Marketing. Public Policy Polling has Polled North Carolina more than any Pollster in this state and came up with the same results every time. That is 26 out of 27 now. They have got to be really incompetent to come up with the same results that many times. The last Poll ( Groves) before that showed Obama up by 3 points.

More evidence, Jim Messina and Paul Axelrod claimed the Romney campaign was bluffing about North Carolina. Messina and Axelrod are directly tied to the Obama Campaign and not Begala. Maybe CNN should ask the campaign instead of someone they paid to report to them. That is some advice to Blitzer. If he can go to Romney surrogates, then he should give the same respect to the Obama campaign instead of spitting off Republican talking points. That is what a journalist does.

Mire evidence, it took another news organization ( Huffington Post) to find out the real stratus of the Romney campaign in North Carolina when they claimed they pulled out of North Carolina. Something all the other media didn't take the time to investigate.

More evidence are the actual voting in early voting. Obama actually has a 20 percent lead over Romney in early voting and the turnout is above the numbers in 2008. Despite the Polls, Romney is behind and trying to catch up in early voting. It is debatable if Republicans are actually turning out that would more than likely had turned up on election day to keep close. It is President Obama's ground game that is turning out the new voters in one stop. The Democrats have over a 800,000 advantage in registration. So the media and these so called experts are making guesses but the fact is, Romney is behind in North Carolina and trying to close the gap. he could go into election day down by 20 percent or more.

Shuhered

(200 posts)
17. Thank Goodness!!!
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 05:57 PM
Oct 2012

Thank you for the update in North Carolina. I had long wondered how such a beautiful state with seemingly progressive laid back people could vote against their interests or vote for a total liar. Our post makes me feel alt better from here in Iowa where Obama is leading in early voting.

-LOKI -BAD FOR YA

(308 posts)
29. the polls are only snapshot in time.subjective,voting is the only measure that counts
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 02:43 AM
Oct 2012

thanks for the update it is critical to get real time infomation,the obama team has never losted .i think nc and Virgina are rising stars in our party. nc going blue will have farreaching effects on the 2016 race. i live in the big blue ,all i can do is donate and let people know what fine job they are doing.

gkhouston

(21,642 posts)
18. This John Davis? The one you called a prominent Democratic strategist?
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 06:34 PM
Oct 2012

He must have changed parties since last month...

http://projects.newsobserver.com/tags/John_Davis

Republican political pundit John Davis issued a report earlier this week predicting Republicans will retain control of the N.C. Senate.
 

John2

(2,730 posts)
26. Darn
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 12:04 AM
Oct 2012

These Tea Partiers just woke a sleeping giant in North Carolina. I didn't even know you hijacked our Legislature. First you tried to pass voter ID. Then you claimed 30,000 dead people were on the rolls. The GOP is going to suffer the consequences in November. Don't mess with North Carolina.

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
24. Oops. Looks as if you have been outed (See post 18). Maybe you ought to go back to wherever it is
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 10:40 PM
Oct 2012

you came from.

Democrats4All

(54 posts)
6. one guy one opinion one vote
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 03:29 PM
Oct 2012

I trust PPP and their sample of hundreds of voters across the state over one mans opinion and vote any day.

 

bathroommonkey76

(3,827 posts)
25. At 7 pm tonight NC surpassed 1 million votes.
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 11:41 PM
Oct 2012

Early voting in NC tops 1 million

http://www.wral.com/early-voting-in-nc-tops-one-million/11702949/


Today I carried a nice elderly Dem couple to the polls in Lillington and there were around 50 people voting there at 9:30 in the morning. I have hope that my Tar Heel state will vote in Obama in 2012. The people that I have talked with Dems, Repubs and Independents see Rmoney as a snake oil salesman. I'm still trying to get my 'Manchurian Mitt' nickname to stick in people's heads. He's a Rovian puppet that was programmed by billionaires around the US. People have noticed Mitt's flip flopping ways here in NC.

bluemarkers

(536 posts)
11. I voted today
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 03:53 PM
Oct 2012

Lots of people, and had fun snubbing the gop middle aged white guy with a shout out to the Democratic volunteer.

Shuhered

(200 posts)
16. I am a White, Middle Age Male
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 05:52 PM
Oct 2012

Ok half-white, and half Latino, funloving, ex-Navy man veteran of Desert Storm, and gay here in Iowa. I voted for Obama with gusto!!! So excited to see him beat the tar out of this dude Romney who,it turns out, is quite elastic with the truth.

bluemarkers

(536 posts)
21. sweet!
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 08:53 PM
Oct 2012

I thought I had finished my thought!! (sorry)

My husband and I are middle aged white couple, and the Dem volunteer was like me. I told her I might never vote for a Republican again. (I left the unopposed R judges unmarked.) She said "They've just gone batshit crazy! I burst out laughing and wholeheartedly agreed!!!

(If I was single, and you were straight, we'd make a great couple!)

Take Care!!

Shuhered

(200 posts)
30. Totally With You!!!
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 03:41 AM
Oct 2012

Activist judges, paleeez. The interpretation of law by the Iowa Judges was spot on correct, thankfully. I watched some excerpts from Glenn Beck shown on the Rachel Maddow Show yesterday--- what a creeeeeeeeeeepy schizophrenic he is.

 

skepticscott

(13,029 posts)
23. Why is there so much lying about polls?
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 10:17 PM
Oct 2012

Other than the fact that pollsters are closet attention whores and just love to feel like they're making news. Going from 49-47 to 48-48 is not a "small shift". It is well within the margin of error for the poll. These two results do not reflect any real shift in what the voters are likely to do.

TomCADem

(17,390 posts)
27. Thanks to the volunteers on the ground!
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 12:24 AM
Oct 2012

Even though Romney has the support of gazillionaires, President Obama has the support of actual people, not corporations.

Shuhered

(200 posts)
31. Well Then...
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 03:43 AM
Oct 2012

Well then it must be true if Mitt said it. Or if Steve Doocy said it, A HAHaHaHaHa!!! That Steve Doocy from Fox Morning Show, I never watch it, but when he gaffes and the media shows it, I laugh too.

CRK7376

(2,199 posts)
32. I mailed in
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 10:09 AM
Oct 2012

my absentee ballot almost a month ago. For Barack, Elisabeth Motsinger and all the rest of the Democrats on my ballot.

bamacrat

(3,867 posts)
33. Therefore according to CNN NC is leaning RMoney..
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 02:09 PM
Oct 2012

They actually moved it from toss-up to Lean Romney yesterday.

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