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hue

(4,949 posts)
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 02:29 PM Oct 2012

N.Y. police officer charged with plan to cook, eat women

Source: Chicago Tribune

NEW YORK (Reuters) - A New York City police officer was charged on Thursday with conspiring to kidnap, torture, cook and eat women whose names he listed in his computer.

In a criminal complaint unsealed in Manhattan federal court, Gilberto Valle III, 28, of Forest Hills, Queens, was charged with conspiring to cross state lines to kidnap the women and with illegally accessing a federal database. The charges carry a maximum sentence of life in prison.

Investigators uncovered a file on Valle's computer containing the names and pictures of at least 100 women, and the addresses and physical descriptions of some of them, according to the complaint. It said he had undertaken surveillance of some of the women at their places of employment and their homes.
Valle was arrested Wednesday by the FBI.

In an excerpt of a July conversation with an unnamed co-conspirator, Valle is quoted in the complaint as saying: "I can just show up at her home unannounced. It will not alert her, and I can knock her out, wait until dark and kidnap her right out of her home."

Read more: http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/sns-rt-us-usa-crime-nypdbre89o16a-20121025,0,4715086.story



mega misogyny! Thanks FBI for the arrest!
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N.Y. police officer charged with plan to cook, eat women (Original Post) hue Oct 2012 OP
What was his Freeper I.D.?? thelordofhell Oct 2012 #1
What was his Freeper I.D.?? heide70 Oct 2012 #43
Would the Ku Klux Freep even allow him to sign up? FrodosPet Oct 2012 #55
This sounds like a job for Dexter n/t Duer 157099 Oct 2012 #2
WTF?!? yends21012 Oct 2012 #3
Has Romney endorsed him yet? Orrex Oct 2012 #4
... L0oniX Oct 2012 #9
Has Romney endorsed hin yet? heide70 Oct 2012 #39
I wish they'd experiment on him for 20 years zazen Oct 2012 #5
+1 freshwest Oct 2012 #37
sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick n/t azurnoir Oct 2012 #6
Probably the sadistic MF that went around pepper spraying innocent bystanding occupiers. W T F Oct 2012 #7
Yes, I'd like to see his record as a six-year member of the NYPD. sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #10
NO SHIT this guy fell through the cracks--how on earth he even came close to passing a psych exam, Nay Oct 2012 #20
The guy looks perfectly normal, like Bundy did. hifiguy Oct 2012 #28
No sh$t this guy fell through the cracks...... heide70 Oct 2012 #49
"To Protect and Serve" means different things to different people, I guess. n/t jtuck004 Oct 2012 #8
You owe me a keyboard. nolabear Oct 2012 #11
Oh, my. Ikonoklast Oct 2012 #12
glad you went there it crossed my mind but........n/t azurnoir Oct 2012 #22
You saw that old Twilight Zone episode too? whathehell Oct 2012 #25
First Damon Knight. "it's a cookbook". But yeah <G>. n/t jtuck004 Oct 2012 #27
Don't know Damon Knight. But yeah, "It's a cookbook" -- "To Serve Man"! n/t whathehell Oct 2012 #40
Written in the 50's, pre Twilight Zone, supposedly the author's jtuck004 Oct 2012 #42
This is up there on the weird scale, but was only a plan, and compared to very real injustices jtuck004 Oct 2012 #26
Except he violated several laws during the planning stage. He accessed information sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #31
There is a difference between being on the menu and having been eaten. One still has hope. jtuck004 Oct 2012 #34
Yeah...About an hour. whathehell Oct 2012 #46
Well. that's true <G> n/t jtuck004 Oct 2012 #47
Yeah, I figured we'd agree eventually. whathehell Oct 2012 #58
Yes, the only difference appears to be that someone turned him in. sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #51
I didn't say he shouldn't be removed, though I doubt he will serve any jail time. jtuck004 Oct 2012 #53
Abusing his authority... I hope he doesn't get put away in a prison mental ward and let out later. freshwest Oct 2012 #36
Was that the Green River Killer, or the Clown, whose name I forget sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #52
No, this happened in a suburb or small town near Houston. Not the Green River Killer. freshwest Oct 2012 #59
Are you kidding? pitbullgirl1965 Oct 2012 #32
Death seems seems a bigger injustice, in that they have no way to recover. And he didn't jtuck004 Oct 2012 #33
The FBI seems to disagree with you. True he didn't kill anyone, as far as we know. sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #60
"only a PLAN"??!! whathehell Oct 2012 #41
It takes all kinds. That's what makes the world go 'round. Quite an eclectic lifestyle, I must say. AAO Oct 2012 #13
I find your post disturbing. mahina Oct 2012 #19
How would you like to be his entree?...No, I don't think we DO need his "kind". whathehell Oct 2012 #44
WTF?? smirkymonkey Oct 2012 #54
The more we subjugate and repress women, the worse the violence becomes against them AllyCat Oct 2012 #14
Amen. Octafish Oct 2012 #17
huh???? heaven05 Oct 2012 #15
Holy crap! First the Tea Party rapist in Utah . . . caseymoz Oct 2012 #16
Jesus. With friends like this who the fuck needs enemies? 47of74 Oct 2012 #18
Well, he's NOT getting best cop of the year award! n/t proReality Oct 2012 #21
With some fava beans and a nice chianti? edbermac Oct 2012 #23
Lecter only offed "the free range rude" that hifiguy Oct 2012 #29
Oh well, I guess we should just move along then..Nothing to see here. whathehell Oct 2012 #45
OMG...Is it something in the air? whathehell Oct 2012 #24
Whole new spin on protect and serve - at 180F. marble falls Oct 2012 #30
Added to fingrinn Oct 2012 #35
Nah....Google "German Cannible murderer" whathehell Oct 2012 #48
One memorable name fingrinn Oct 2012 #56
Armin Meiwes is another one. whathehell Oct 2012 #57
Ick Aerows Oct 2012 #38
well that's a terrible plan arely staircase Oct 2012 #50
Hope he was only targeting free range women and not ones in binders. SpartanDem Oct 2012 #61

heide70

(8 posts)
43. What was his Freeper I.D.??
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 07:57 PM
Oct 2012

Wow, you should have used the S-word instead! Otherwise I agree, the man is not located in our world. He probably lives already on a planet named Kolob, which is the Mormon's Heaven.

FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
55. Would the Ku Klux Freep even allow him to sign up?
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 08:57 PM
Oct 2012

Gilberto Valle isn't exactly a British, Scandinavian, or German name.

Whatever his philosophy, or most likely lack thereof, he is a monster that can NEVER be allowed a breath or step outside of confinement.

yends21012

(228 posts)
3. WTF?!?
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 02:33 PM
Oct 2012

It's like the country is beating the woodwork to find out all of the craziness of the RW during this election and it is also flushing out ALL of the crazies.

heide70

(8 posts)
39. Has Romney endorsed hin yet?
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 07:46 PM
Oct 2012

I will eat my broom if he doesn't! It spooks me to hear Mittens elaborate on his ideas for us. Many of them are Mormon (LDS) teachings. How about division of Church & State.

zazen

(2,978 posts)
5. I wish they'd experiment on him for 20 years
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 02:39 PM
Oct 2012

"I was thinking of tying her body onto some kind of apparatus ... cook her over a low heat, keep her alive as long as possible," he said. The woman in question is identified only as "Victim 1."

Please tell me the thrill that men get from women screaming in agony while they're controlling the torture. Do they think women really have that much evil power over male sexuality that they somehow deserve vengeance?

Or do they just want to see any reaction, because they think it's orgasmic? There are several porn genres where women "orgasm" from the pain--drowning, electroshock. Apparently, it's the secret I've been missing all my life....

The level of sick psychological projection is staggering. Yes, I'm so glad they caught him. Wish we could get the monsters in other countries with whom he was communicating.

W T F

(1,148 posts)
7. Probably the sadistic MF that went around pepper spraying innocent bystanding occupiers.
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 02:43 PM
Oct 2012

You'ld think they would do a better job, if any, when vetting the petty athoritarian phycos that apply to become cops. This is obviously a big one that fell through the cracks.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
10. Yes, I'd like to see his record as a six-year member of the NYPD.
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 02:50 PM
Oct 2012

Should be available now that they've named him.

Nay

(12,051 posts)
20. NO SHIT this guy fell through the cracks--how on earth he even came close to passing a psych exam,
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 03:43 PM
Oct 2012

I have no idea. Well, actually I do -- he's a true sociopath who is the charming, sociable type, like Ted Bundy.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
28. The guy looks perfectly normal, like Bundy did.
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 04:54 PM
Oct 2012

If you saw him on the street you'd never look twice at him.

It is plain to see that whatever psychological "tests" they are using on the pool of scumbags that want to be cops - with a monopoly on the use of deadly force in society - aren't working worth a tinker's damn. I wonder how many other head-chopping psychos are hiding behind badges.

heide70

(8 posts)
49. No sh$t this guy fell through the cracks......
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 08:07 PM
Oct 2012

These days the entire Rep's are largely lunatic . I wonder who is feeding them some crazy pills.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
25. You saw that old Twilight Zone episode too?
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 04:37 PM
Oct 2012

Freaking A...You have to laugh, I guess, it's getting WAY too crazy.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
42. Written in the 50's, pre Twilight Zone, supposedly the author's
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 07:56 PM
Oct 2012

wife was out with another man. Perhaps that had something to do with the motivation

http://perrylocal.org/mostova/files/2011/09/To-Serve-Man.pdf

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
26. This is up there on the weird scale, but was only a plan, and compared to very real injustices
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 04:38 PM
Oct 2012

isn't as important.

He's like the fake spy that peed his pants when Jamie Lee Curtis stuck her lipstick tube at his neck. Hard not to laugh.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
31. Except he violated several laws during the planning stage. He accessed information
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 05:39 PM
Oct 2012

on these women using tools meant to be used only for investigation into crimes. Seems it's a good thing he was stopped before he got beyond the planning stage. And I don't think the women on his 'menu' will agree with your assessment that his plans for them was merely 'weird'.


 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
34. There is a difference between being on the menu and having been eaten. One still has hope.
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 06:44 PM
Oct 2012

On the other hand I have lived a lot of my life without agreeing with people around me as they committed their lives to their masters, so I am used to it.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
51. Yes, the only difference appears to be that someone turned him in.
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 08:27 PM
Oct 2012

Anyone with a mind that sick, to be even thinking of such things, let alone documenting and categorizing over one hundred women, needs to be removed from society.

I suppose that if other serial killers had been turned in before they started on their rampages, we could say that they never really intended to do what they were planning. I am just glad this sicko was caught before we found out.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
53. I didn't say he shouldn't be removed, though I doubt he will serve any jail time.
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 08:41 PM
Oct 2012

Heck, we have one here that has been judged guilty of killing an unarmed guy in a convenience store when he attacked him and he's still hanging out.

Millions of people fantasize about murder, many commit it to paper, and it happens in schools and workplaces. We don't find out about the majority because they never act on it, though the evidence is out there if one has occasion to come across it.

But it's a long way from planning to the implementation of taking another person's life deliberately and with forethought in the human mind, regardless of popular opinion. Else we would have a lot more murders than we do.

Btw - his ex-wife turned him in, which I thought was a good call on her part.


freshwest

(53,661 posts)
36. Abusing his authority... I hope he doesn't get put away in a prison mental ward and let out later.
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 07:18 PM
Oct 2012

He sounds very similar to the guy in Texas who kidnapped a number of teenage boys in the seventies and tortured them to death for his sadistic pleasure. Their pictures were in the paper and it was heartbreaking. The nention of the board is what brought that memory back.

I don't remember what happened to that particular monster, but as the details came out in the press, it was both enraging and terrifying. He was sentenced to life as the death penalty was on stay at that time. The twist in that was that some of the family members came to his parole hearings and wanted him let out. Not for his health, it was suspected they wanted him freed to give them the chance to take their vengeance. I hadn't thought about that in years.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
52. Was that the Green River Killer, or the Clown, whose name I forget
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 08:32 PM
Oct 2012

and then there was Jeffrey Dahmer? I hope too he is not let out for a very long time, if ever. It seems someone turned this guy in and the FBI appears to believe he intended to carry out these gruesome plans.

I wish that there was some explanation as to how someone turns out like this, even to have these kinds of thoughts shows that something went terribly wrong.

The problem is we never get any answers. We hear of these terrible crimes, but never see any studies, if there ever are any, to try to understand what creates this kind of monster and try to avoid doing so in the future.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
59. No, this happened in a suburb or small town near Houston. Not the Green River Killer.
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 10:30 PM
Oct 2012

Last edited Thu Oct 25, 2012, 11:33 PM - Edit history (2)

If you're talking about Yates, that trial was extensively covered and I don't remember that, although he was a real POS.

The one in Baytown, or wherever it was, was like this NYPD pervert, but he got his chance, and this cop hadn't done it yet. The reason, too, that I don't want him out later, is he was going all over the place, planning this out with detail. This was no spur of the moment, whatever, anymore than Dahmer, Gacy or what's his name. I suspect if released, he'll go for it again.

I mentioned that seventies case to someone a while back who lived in Houston, and they knew his name. It was the kind of think you don't forget. There were a number of notorious serial killers at the time. The death penalty was considered cruel and unusual and there was a moratorium. And it wasn't much longer after this case and some others, that it was re-instated.

I remember at least three cases of people who were sentenced to life without parole who had committed several murders each. Really, horrible, depraved killings. But they were not kept in prison for life, as the jurors expected, but were instead released. The excuse was overcrowding.

Those three, and there were more no doubt, went on killing sprees the same day or a few days after their release. That was what built public support for the death penalty again. I don't know what the jury instructions are now, but I believe one of the questions the jury had to answer to impose the death penalty was, did the jury believe the killer would continue to be a threat to society, IOW, would they kill again. That was the factor I heard was used.

I have no idea what the standard is now, or if that was ever the real standard or not. But it made sense. It wasn't based on vengeance, it was due to mistrust of the system to keep its word and keep the public safe from incorrigible killers. The answer to the death penalty is the same as it was when it was then -- keep those who would kill again away from the public. That requires tax money.

Some people have made the argument that killing people saves money, but it doesn't. And that should not be the reason. Other countries give people long sentences with rehabilitation before being released.

This NYPD guy, I don't know. He was able to function and carry out his plans and appears to be sociopath. No cure for that.

pitbullgirl1965

(564 posts)
32. Are you kidding?
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 06:05 PM
Oct 2012

What makes you think he wasn't going to carry his plan out and do it successfully? He's a cop, with all the power and privilege that brings. Real injustice? Misogyny is real injustice.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
33. Death seems seems a bigger injustice, in that they have no way to recover. And he didn't
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 06:41 PM
Oct 2012

kill anyone - yet, and assuming he had the nerve - unlike a few others.

So, no, not kidding. But I am surrounded by people who would rather paw at shiny things than deal with the real dirt in their lives, so not surprised.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
60. The FBI seems to disagree with you. True he didn't kill anyone, as far as we know.
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 11:58 PM
Oct 2012

In fact, how do we know he did not btw? But according to the article in which it's clear he is not charged with killing anyone, he IS charged with several other crimes which should he get the max for all of them, would send him to jail for life. He was stalking these women, he used law enforcement tools to find out where they worked, got their photos which he posted as attachments to his 'plan'. Stalking, using his position as a LEO to get info on private individuals, those are crimes. So he has already crossed the line from mere fantasy into breaking the law.

Hopefully he has not killed anyone, and hopefully he never will. But he's not someone I would want living next door to me.

Stalking and using the power he was entrusted with are not 'shiny things' they are crimes. He is a Police Officer. That makes his crimes worse as he betrayed a public trust as well as everything else. I hope there are not too many 'fantasizers' like this on the Police Force. Doesn't exactly make women feel safe.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
41. "only a PLAN"??!!
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 07:55 PM
Oct 2012

Hello?...Did you ever hear of a crime called "Conspiracy"?...It's quite indictable

and I'd say this guy is a little more than "weird", he's freaking nuts AND homicidal!

 

AAO

(3,300 posts)
13. It takes all kinds. That's what makes the world go 'round. Quite an eclectic lifestyle, I must say.
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 03:20 PM
Oct 2012

Last edited Fri Oct 26, 2012, 12:09 PM - Edit history (1)



Wow, tough crowd. I guess I should have..

AllyCat

(16,192 posts)
14. The more we subjugate and repress women, the worse the violence becomes against them
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 03:21 PM
Oct 2012

What a sick person.

caseymoz

(5,763 posts)
16. Holy crap! First the Tea Party rapist in Utah . . .
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 03:23 PM
Oct 2012

. . . a Romney supporter, BTW, and now this, in two days.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
29. Lecter only offed "the free range rude" that
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 04:56 PM
Oct 2012

personally offended his sense of decorum and never killed a woman, if I remember the books correctly.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
38. Ick
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 07:36 PM
Oct 2012

Like those nutty people in South America that killed three people and made them into meat pies. Ewww.

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