N.Y. police officer charged with plan to cook, eat women
Source: Chicago Tribune
NEW YORK (Reuters) - A New York City police officer was charged on Thursday with conspiring to kidnap, torture, cook and eat women whose names he listed in his computer.
In a criminal complaint unsealed in Manhattan federal court, Gilberto Valle III, 28, of Forest Hills, Queens, was charged with conspiring to cross state lines to kidnap the women and with illegally accessing a federal database. The charges carry a maximum sentence of life in prison.
Investigators uncovered a file on Valle's computer containing the names and pictures of at least 100 women, and the addresses and physical descriptions of some of them, according to the complaint. It said he had undertaken surveillance of some of the women at their places of employment and their homes.
Valle was arrested Wednesday by the FBI.
In an excerpt of a July conversation with an unnamed co-conspirator, Valle is quoted in the complaint as saying: "I can just show up at her home unannounced. It will not alert her, and I can knock her out, wait until dark and kidnap her right out of her home."
Read more: http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/sns-rt-us-usa-crime-nypdbre89o16a-20121025,0,4715086.story
mega misogyny! Thanks FBI for the arrest!
thelordofhell
(4,569 posts)heide70
(8 posts)Wow, you should have used the S-word instead! Otherwise I agree, the man is not located in our world. He probably lives already on a planet named Kolob, which is the Mormon's Heaven.
FrodosPet
(5,169 posts)Gilberto Valle isn't exactly a British, Scandinavian, or German name.
Whatever his philosophy, or most likely lack thereof, he is a monster that can NEVER be allowed a breath or step outside of confinement.
Duer 157099
(17,742 posts)It's like the country is beating the woodwork to find out all of the craziness of the RW during this election and it is also flushing out ALL of the crazies.
Orrex
(63,216 posts)heide70
(8 posts)I will eat my broom if he doesn't! It spooks me to hear Mittens elaborate on his ideas for us. Many of them are Mormon (LDS) teachings. How about division of Church & State.
zazen
(2,978 posts)"I was thinking of tying her body onto some kind of apparatus ... cook her over a low heat, keep her alive as long as possible," he said. The woman in question is identified only as "Victim 1."
Please tell me the thrill that men get from women screaming in agony while they're controlling the torture. Do they think women really have that much evil power over male sexuality that they somehow deserve vengeance?
Or do they just want to see any reaction, because they think it's orgasmic? There are several porn genres where women "orgasm" from the pain--drowning, electroshock. Apparently, it's the secret I've been missing all my life....
The level of sick psychological projection is staggering. Yes, I'm so glad they caught him. Wish we could get the monsters in other countries with whom he was communicating.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)W T F
(1,148 posts)You'ld think they would do a better job, if any, when vetting the petty athoritarian phycos that apply to become cops. This is obviously a big one that fell through the cracks.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)Should be available now that they've named him.
Nay
(12,051 posts)I have no idea. Well, actually I do -- he's a true sociopath who is the charming, sociable type, like Ted Bundy.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)If you saw him on the street you'd never look twice at him.
It is plain to see that whatever psychological "tests" they are using on the pool of scumbags that want to be cops - with a monopoly on the use of deadly force in society - aren't working worth a tinker's damn. I wonder how many other head-chopping psychos are hiding behind badges.
heide70
(8 posts)These days the entire Rep's are largely lunatic . I wonder who is feeding them some crazy pills.
jtuck004
(15,882 posts)nolabear
(41,987 posts)Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)azurnoir
(45,850 posts)whathehell
(29,067 posts)Freaking A...You have to laugh, I guess, it's getting WAY too crazy.
jtuck004
(15,882 posts)whathehell
(29,067 posts)jtuck004
(15,882 posts)wife was out with another man. Perhaps that had something to do with the motivation
http://perrylocal.org/mostova/files/2011/09/To-Serve-Man.pdf
jtuck004
(15,882 posts)isn't as important.
He's like the fake spy that peed his pants when Jamie Lee Curtis stuck her lipstick tube at his neck. Hard not to laugh.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)on these women using tools meant to be used only for investigation into crimes. Seems it's a good thing he was stopped before he got beyond the planning stage. And I don't think the women on his 'menu' will agree with your assessment that his plans for them was merely 'weird'.
jtuck004
(15,882 posts)On the other hand I have lived a lot of my life without agreeing with people around me as they committed their lives to their masters, so I am used to it.
whathehell
(29,067 posts)Give it a rest, bro...You're not going to win this one.
jtuck004
(15,882 posts)whathehell
(29,067 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)Anyone with a mind that sick, to be even thinking of such things, let alone documenting and categorizing over one hundred women, needs to be removed from society.
I suppose that if other serial killers had been turned in before they started on their rampages, we could say that they never really intended to do what they were planning. I am just glad this sicko was caught before we found out.
jtuck004
(15,882 posts)Heck, we have one here that has been judged guilty of killing an unarmed guy in a convenience store when he attacked him and he's still hanging out.
Millions of people fantasize about murder, many commit it to paper, and it happens in schools and workplaces. We don't find out about the majority because they never act on it, though the evidence is out there if one has occasion to come across it.
But it's a long way from planning to the implementation of taking another person's life deliberately and with forethought in the human mind, regardless of popular opinion. Else we would have a lot more murders than we do.
Btw - his ex-wife turned him in, which I thought was a good call on her part.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)He sounds very similar to the guy in Texas who kidnapped a number of teenage boys in the seventies and tortured them to death for his sadistic pleasure. Their pictures were in the paper and it was heartbreaking. The nention of the board is what brought that memory back.
I don't remember what happened to that particular monster, but as the details came out in the press, it was both enraging and terrifying. He was sentenced to life as the death penalty was on stay at that time. The twist in that was that some of the family members came to his parole hearings and wanted him let out. Not for his health, it was suspected they wanted him freed to give them the chance to take their vengeance. I hadn't thought about that in years.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)and then there was Jeffrey Dahmer? I hope too he is not let out for a very long time, if ever. It seems someone turned this guy in and the FBI appears to believe he intended to carry out these gruesome plans.
I wish that there was some explanation as to how someone turns out like this, even to have these kinds of thoughts shows that something went terribly wrong.
The problem is we never get any answers. We hear of these terrible crimes, but never see any studies, if there ever are any, to try to understand what creates this kind of monster and try to avoid doing so in the future.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Last edited Thu Oct 25, 2012, 11:33 PM - Edit history (2)
If you're talking about Yates, that trial was extensively covered and I don't remember that, although he was a real POS.
The one in Baytown, or wherever it was, was like this NYPD pervert, but he got his chance, and this cop hadn't done it yet. The reason, too, that I don't want him out later, is he was going all over the place, planning this out with detail. This was no spur of the moment, whatever, anymore than Dahmer, Gacy or what's his name. I suspect if released, he'll go for it again.
I mentioned that seventies case to someone a while back who lived in Houston, and they knew his name. It was the kind of think you don't forget. There were a number of notorious serial killers at the time. The death penalty was considered cruel and unusual and there was a moratorium. And it wasn't much longer after this case and some others, that it was re-instated.
I remember at least three cases of people who were sentenced to life without parole who had committed several murders each. Really, horrible, depraved killings. But they were not kept in prison for life, as the jurors expected, but were instead released. The excuse was overcrowding.
Those three, and there were more no doubt, went on killing sprees the same day or a few days after their release. That was what built public support for the death penalty again. I don't know what the jury instructions are now, but I believe one of the questions the jury had to answer to impose the death penalty was, did the jury believe the killer would continue to be a threat to society, IOW, would they kill again. That was the factor I heard was used.
I have no idea what the standard is now, or if that was ever the real standard or not. But it made sense. It wasn't based on vengeance, it was due to mistrust of the system to keep its word and keep the public safe from incorrigible killers. The answer to the death penalty is the same as it was when it was then -- keep those who would kill again away from the public. That requires tax money.
Some people have made the argument that killing people saves money, but it doesn't. And that should not be the reason. Other countries give people long sentences with rehabilitation before being released.
This NYPD guy, I don't know. He was able to function and carry out his plans and appears to be sociopath. No cure for that.
pitbullgirl1965
(564 posts)What makes you think he wasn't going to carry his plan out and do it successfully? He's a cop, with all the power and privilege that brings. Real injustice? Misogyny is real injustice.
jtuck004
(15,882 posts)kill anyone - yet, and assuming he had the nerve - unlike a few others.
So, no, not kidding. But I am surrounded by people who would rather paw at shiny things than deal with the real dirt in their lives, so not surprised.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)In fact, how do we know he did not btw? But according to the article in which it's clear he is not charged with killing anyone, he IS charged with several other crimes which should he get the max for all of them, would send him to jail for life. He was stalking these women, he used law enforcement tools to find out where they worked, got their photos which he posted as attachments to his 'plan'. Stalking, using his position as a LEO to get info on private individuals, those are crimes. So he has already crossed the line from mere fantasy into breaking the law.
Hopefully he has not killed anyone, and hopefully he never will. But he's not someone I would want living next door to me.
Stalking and using the power he was entrusted with are not 'shiny things' they are crimes. He is a Police Officer. That makes his crimes worse as he betrayed a public trust as well as everything else. I hope there are not too many 'fantasizers' like this on the Police Force. Doesn't exactly make women feel safe.
whathehell
(29,067 posts)Hello?...Did you ever hear of a crime called "Conspiracy"?...It's quite indictable
and I'd say this guy is a little more than "weird", he's freaking nuts AND homicidal!
AAO
(3,300 posts)mahina
(17,669 posts)whathehell
(29,067 posts)Are you sick in the head? Do you even know what "eclectic" means? I think not.
AllyCat
(16,192 posts)What a sick person.
Just when I hoped the police state couldn't sink any lower...
heaven05
(18,124 posts)PITIFUL HUMAN BEING.
caseymoz
(5,763 posts). . . a Romney supporter, BTW, and now this, in two days.
47of74
(18,470 posts)proReality
(1,628 posts)edbermac
(15,941 posts)Yikes!
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)personally offended his sense of decorum and never killed a woman, if I remember the books correctly.
whathehell
(29,067 posts)whathehell
(29,067 posts)Where do these psychos come from?
marble falls
(57,112 posts)the only in America file.
whathehell
(29,067 posts)There's another more recent one from Canada as well.
fingrinn
(81 posts)Jeffrey dahmer.
whathehell
(29,067 posts)Google "German cannibals" and you'll find some more.
Like those nutty people in South America that killed three people and made them into meat pies. Ewww.
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)eom