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kpete

(71,997 posts)
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 10:18 AM Oct 2012

Romney rejected new birth certificates for gay parents

Source: Boston Globe

Romney rejected new birth certificates for gay parents

As governor, he ordered review for each child

By Murray Waas | GLOBE CORRESPONDENT OCTOBER 25, 2012

It seemed like a minor adjustment. To comply with the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court ruling that legalized gay marriage in 2003, the state Registry of Vital Records and Statistics said it needed to revise its birth certificate forms. Instead of just “father,’’ the new forms would feature a box labeled “father or second parent,’’ reflecting the new law of the land. But to then-Governor Mitt Romney, who opposed permitting gay married couples to raise children, the proposed change was a glaring symbol of the decline of the traditional definition of family. He rejected the Registry of Vital Records plan and insisted that his top legal staff individually review the circumstances of every birth to same-sex parents.

Read more: http://bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2012/10/24/mitt-romney-overruled-state-agency-and-rejected-new-birth-certificates-for-children-born-gay-parents/TqOHBb99V98H6nGQqUQrjO/story.html

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yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
1. So Romney allowed ideology to trump the need for accurate birth records?
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 10:25 AM
Oct 2012

And this guy claims he supports families?

marshall

(6,665 posts)
2. What if the "first parent" is also a father?
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 10:27 AM
Oct 2012

The state Registry seems to have been seeking a solution that would accommodate lesbian parents without regard to the status of two men in the same situation.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,322 posts)
5. For a birth certificate (as opposed to an adoption certificate), they may say the birth mother
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 11:49 AM
Oct 2012

is always recorded. So, even if it's a child born with a pre-existing agreement with 2 male parents, the birth mother goes in 'place one'. Whether they proposed a place for '3rd parent', where a 2nd man could go, I don't know.

marshall

(6,665 posts)
7. Birth certificates don't always reflect birth parents
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 11:54 AM
Oct 2012

I am a single adoptive father. My son's birth certificate has only one parent's name on it--mine.

I think this is an example of a well intentioned group who aren't looking broadly enough at how they can help our diverse population.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
10. That's not his original birth certificate
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 12:22 PM
Oct 2012

There is always a second birth certificate given when a child is adopted.


In the United States, most adopted children are given amended birth certificates that have only the names of their adoptive parents.

In 44 states, original birth certificates are permanently sealed, meaning adoptees can never see their original birth certificates with the name of their birth parents. In Kansas, Alaska, Alabama, Oregon, Maine and New Hampshire, adoptees at 18 can receive birth certificates that have their birth parents names on them.


http://abcnews.go.com/US/nations-adoption-laws-unsealing-birth-certificates/story?id=12915810#.UIlm3m_nXIE

marshall

(6,665 posts)
14. And those amended certificates should follow the Franch model
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 12:57 PM
Oct 2012

The same people in Massachusetts might today come up with something like France proposes: Parent 1 and Parent 2. But their original thought was to create a birth certificate that would work just fine for parents who are either a heterosexual couple or a lesbian couple. I'd like to think we have moved into broader thinking territory today.

meeshrox

(671 posts)
9. Not always the case, but maybe in Mass...
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 12:20 PM
Oct 2012

My husband was adopted in Florida and his adoptive parents are both on the certificate. He has no record of this birth parents' names.

SemperEadem

(8,053 posts)
15. before the legalization of same sex marriages
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 01:58 PM
Oct 2012

the woman's information appears first on the form, then the father presumably because women give birth and men don't. In cases which present different parenting (mother is unmarried, adoption, etc.), then the certificate is amended with the proper information. Such was the case for me 29 years ago. I wasn't married to Babygirl's father and had to have her certificate amended to include his name.

In the case of adoption, the initial certificate is sealed and never opened or released. Once the adoption takes place, a new certificate is issued with the adoptive parents name on it. My cousin, who was adopted, is running into major obstacles into finding her birth mother. Even 53 years after the fact, it's a blank for her and it really bothers her that she can't know who she truly is. My aunt and uncle who adopted her are long dead.

hunter

(38,318 posts)
3. Probably thinks it would screw up the Mormon genealogy machines too.
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 10:29 AM
Oct 2012

The church has got a lot invested in that software.

hunter

(38,318 posts)
13. The mormons will continue to keep their own records.
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 12:43 PM
Oct 2012

It's part of their religion.

This deal is like selling a CD after you've ripped the music to your own computer.

brooklynite

(94,602 posts)
4. Now really, what;'s the big deal?
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 10:32 AM
Oct 2012

It's not like anybody wants to see your Birth Certificate where you're applying for a job. Or running for office.....

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
12. That's what happens when you have a bishop as governor
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 12:27 PM
Oct 2012

We definitely don't need a bishop as president.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
16. Romney is such a bigot in the end.
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 08:17 PM
Oct 2012

He had promised he would be good on LGBT issues, but he acted like the RWer during his term. I can not stand this man. Let there be gay marriage everywhere my friends.

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