(update) "Shooting at spa in Wisconsin: 4 dead, including gunman, police say"

[hue]

Last edited Sun Oct 21, 2012, 06:51 PM - Edit history (1)

Source: Yahoo! News

A shooting at a spa near a Brookfield, Wis., mall on Sunday left three dead and four others wounded, police said, and authorities are searching for the suspected gunman.

Police identified the suspected shooter as 45-year-old Radcliffe Haughton, of Brown Deer, Wis. Haughton is 6-foot-2-inches tall, weighs approximately 210 pounds and was last seen wearing a camouflage jacket, grey sweater, blue jeans and carrying a white and black backpack, police said. He was reportedly driving a black 2003 Mazda Protégé with license plate no. 171-KZD, though according to witnesses he may have fled on foot.

The shooting occurred at the Azana Spa across the street from the Brookfield Square Mall at approximately 11:15 a.m. local time, police said. A spokeswoman for Froedtert Memorial Hospital told the Associated Press that said four shooting victims were being treated for non-life threatening injuries at the hospital.

"Our entire operation is focused on locating the suspect," Brookfield Police Chief Daniel Tushaus said at a press conference on Sunday.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/mall-shooting-wisconsin-brookfield-180854621.html

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/mall-shooting-wisconsin-brookfield-180854621.html

[Purveyor]

1. THIS JUST IN: Dispatcher: Wisconsin Spa Shooting Suspect Found Dead

county dispatcher in Wisconsin says the suspect in a mass shooting at a spa outside Milwaukee has been found dead.

Christine Bannister is a dispatch supervisor for Waukesha County communications center. She says 45-year-old Radcliffe Franklin Haughton, of Brown Deer, has been found dead. She could not provide more details.

Police say three people were killed and four wounded in the Sunday morning shooting at the Azana Day Spa. Authorities spent much of Sunday afternoon looking for the gunman.

They say they believe the shooting was related to a domestic dispute.

MORE...

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-report-multiple-victims-shot-in-wisconsin-mall-20121021,0,3568792.story

[Cha]

3. I was wondering if it wasn't personal

when I read "spa".

Thanks for the update, Purveyor.

[darkangel218]

4. Didnt just the same thing happened a few days ago in FL??

What the hell is going on with mass shootings in beauty salons??

[Liberalagogo]

5. They were out of Blue Dye #56

[wordpix]

20. "in beauty salons" ---I was just in a Soc. Sec. office with average 2 hr. wait & people were

getting mad, either about the screwups in their checks, not getting questions answered and in my case, I was steamed b/c after I signed in and sat for 2 hr, I noticed about 10 people going ahead of me who had come in after me. Seems the woman who took my name/no. had somehow "lost it" on the list. I thought, "this is the kind of place where someone off his rocker would go wild."

[Eleanors38]

23. Mass murderers aren't all that creative; slaughter is their objective.nt

[kestrel91316]

6. Good. Saves the People the expense of a trial. Effin' coward.

[AllyCat]

11. If these people had knives, swords, bare hands, box cutters, or whatever else,

they would have to get in close and actually confront their victims. Being cowards, they go for boom sticks so they can remain anonymous and run away fast like the chicken$hits they are.

[Skittles]

13. but they NEED their guns to look tough!!!

[AllyCat]

19. Chicken$hits. That's what these people are.

Bombers, tylenol poisoners, and the like too. If they don't have to be seen by their victims, they are chicken$hits.

[Eleanors38]

24. Oh, he was a black gangsta?

[Ian David]

2. We'd better start cracking-down on single mothers near Brookfield. Wisconsin. n/t

[wtmusic]

10. Kind of a convoluted way to deal with the problem

Just give handguns to spa patrons for self-defense.

[Ian David]

14. And don't forget the robots. Why do the scientists even make them? n/t

[TBF]

15. Sure, things will improve when everyone in the country is issued

a semi-automatic. What could possibly go wrong?

[Eleanors38]

25. "Issued?" Get responsible. Buy your own.nt

[TBF]

27. Enjoy your stay comrade ... nt

[countryjake]

7. You need to edit that headline...newer update...

"Shooting at spa in Wisconsin: 4 dead, including gunman, police say"

[hue]

8. Thanks...

[Plucketeer]

9. The good thing is

NO guns were at fault.

[Eleanors38]

26. The gun was a willing conspirator, according to latest reports.

[JDPriestly]

12. Since it happened in the US, Republicans will blame the deaths on the lack of guns in the spa and

defend the shooter's right to carry a weapon.

If it had happened in Benghazi, Republicans would have called it a terrorist act and asked why Muslims are so violent.

Is it a question of geography or religion?

[slackmaster]

18. Mental illness is really not something to joke about

[JDPriestly]

22. Could it be that some terrorists are actually mentally ill?

Isn't fanatical religiosity sometimes a manifestation of mental illness?

[slackmaster]

29. That's a definite possibility

[JDPriestly]

35. Since 9/11 and the passage of the Patriot Act, I have thought and said that our official definition

of terrorism is too vague to work. It really does not define what is and what is not "terrorism."

And what is supporting terrorism? Could that include exercising First Amendment rights?

[TBF]

16. Sad story - and nobody is talking about the underlying

problem - abuse towards women. As we devalue women in society (republican party - I am looking at you) the abuse becomes more commonplace and acceptable.

[slackmaster]

17. Mental illness sucks

[JackRiddler]

21. Woman-hating murderers suck.

[4th law of robotics]

28. Murderers suck.

[JackRiddler]

30. Sure, but this is misogyny at work - a femicide. Something specific.

There are different kinds of murders. This is one of a specific and important kind.

Murderers of any kind are usually men. Women-hating men murder thousands of women. (Man-hating women, insofar as they exist, don't kill almost any men.) This is a specific form of misogynistic murder. It is enabled and encouraged by misogynistic training (he expects to own and control "his" woman) and by misogynist culture. It contributes to the fear and terror of misogynist culture. It's a weapon against all women who are subject to male violence - the fear that they might meet this fate if they resist, like this woman did. Death for her and her friends, apparently.

Denial of this doesn't help anyone.

[4th law of robotics]

31. Do you have evidence that he targeted women

as a gender rather than one specific person because he was mad at her and those who happened to be around her (who also happened to be female)?

Most murder victims are men.

It is enabled and encouraged by misogynistic training (he expects to own and control "his" woman) and by misogynist culture. It contributes to the fear and terror of misogynist culture. It's a weapon against all women who are subject to male violence - the fear that they might meet this fate if they resist, like this woman did. Death for her and her friends, apparently.

And here I thought the murderer was to blame. Apparently it's our culture that killed these women. He was merely a helpless pawn.

[JackRiddler]

32. He killed three women.

And he is responsible. He is to blame. Nevertheless, his act occurs in the context of a culture that tolerates misogyny and trains males in macho culture, that excuses rape, that glorifies male jealousy and male violence.

Your caricature of what I said shows nothing other than denial. Denial doesn't help.

Since the homicide statistics do differ by era and country and place, and since there are different forms of homicide that are more or less common at different times, culture and training and socioeconomic factors self-evidently make a difference.

And you're right, most murder victims are men. And 90+ percent of murderers are men.

Beyond that, there are categories of murder. War, for example (where since WWII civilians have always the majority killed). Murder in the course of other crimes. Competition over territory in businesses, like drugs.

And femicide is a category. Don't practice denial. It's a specifically male violence against women in particular. It is a form of terrorism against women.

[christx30]

33. His main target

was his ex-wife. He had threatened her for years. Told her he was going to throw acid in his face.
There was a restraining order against him, which was imposed 3 days before the shooting.. Judge told him that he was not allowed to own or even touch a gun.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/23/justice/wisconsin-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t3

Restraining orders are useless against a determined abuser/murderer. More needed to be done to protect her. It's a terrible situation all around.

[4th law of robotics]

34. Yes, but did he target her

simply because she was a woman and he hated all women or because she was his ex-wife and they had apparently had a bad divorce (at least in his opinion).