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Omaha Steve

(99,632 posts)
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 07:40 AM Oct 2012

Bob Kerrey (D-NE) changes stance on cap and trade

Source: Omaha World Herald


By Robynn Tysver

Democrat Bob Kerrey, who once argued that lawmakers had a “moral” duty to support an anti-pollution proposal known as cap and trade, says he's had a change of heart.

Kerrey says he came to realize over the past several months — after talking with Nebraska businesses and reading about Europe's troubled cap-and-trade program — that the controversial plan to limit carbon emissions was “not the answer.”

But, he says, he still believes climate change is real. And, unlike Republican Deb Fischer, he's convinced that it's man-made and that something needs to be done.

“I don't have the answer,” Kerrey said Friday. “(But) I've found over the course of my life, some of my most productive work begins right after I discover something I believed was wrong.”

FULL story at link.



Read more: http://www.omaha.com/article/20121013/NEWS/710139909/1685#bob-kerrey-changes-stance-on-cap-and-trade

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Bob Kerrey (D-NE) changes stance on cap and trade (Original Post) Omaha Steve Oct 2012 OP
good for him Celebration Oct 2012 #1
Yeah Brewinblue Oct 2012 #2
In the case of the Redwood Forest BlueToTheBone Oct 2012 #3
Wow! That's the best explanation of this idiotic idea I've ever seen BanzaiBonnie Oct 2012 #4
It's similar to the clean air act trading programs modrepub Oct 2012 #6
You're forgetting the "CAP" part bananas Oct 2012 #7
Glad he did TheFarseer Oct 2012 #5
Regulation vs Market based solution on point Oct 2012 #8

Celebration

(15,812 posts)
1. good for him
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 07:55 AM
Oct 2012

I think it is important to question your positions.

I, too, know that man made climate change is real, but cap and trade seems like a ridiculous way to tackle the problem.

Brewinblue

(392 posts)
2. Yeah
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 08:09 AM
Oct 2012

I never understood the good of selling unused pollution. It's like shifting shit from your left hand to your right and saying you're rid of it.

BanzaiBonnie

(3,621 posts)
4. Wow! That's the best explanation of this idiotic idea I've ever seen
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 10:02 AM
Oct 2012

Thanks Brewinblue. If I'd coffee in my mouth, it would have been all over my screen.

modrepub

(3,495 posts)
6. It's similar to the clean air act trading programs
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 10:10 AM
Oct 2012

they allow industry to put controls on where they are most cost effective. Unfortunately the whole program favors those already in the market by granting quotas based on current operations. Anyone who wants to get in has to buy them from established industry, a marked disadvantage if you have to go begging for credits from one of your competitors.

I'd rather see efficiency standards put in place. Utilities in the east operate woefully inefficient boilers mainly because they are exempt form most pollution controls (grandfathered) and they're basically paid for. Efficiency standards like what we impose on cars would at least help reduce or maintain our carbon emissions and actually provide jobs because we'd be building more efficient plants to replace ones that are in some cased 50+ years old.

TheFarseer

(9,322 posts)
5. Glad he did
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 10:09 AM
Oct 2012

but I don't think it will help much. We're going to be stuck with that stupid bitch Deb Fisher as our Senator - for years and years

on point

(2,506 posts)
8. Regulation vs Market based solution
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 03:02 PM
Oct 2012

CHICKEN.
This was always a republican proposal because they did not want regulation and felt that a 'market based' solution would yield better innovation in technology and business innovation in process to avoid the pollution.

But yes, it would 'cost', and yes it would require changes in behavior. And this is really why they are against it.

There is no time to waste. Change must happen and must happen now. Both regulation and a market based approach will involve cost and change in behavior. There are other approaches, such as the Clinton BTU tax, or more directly a carbon tax.

But the idea that we can't do this now, because it will cost or change our behavior misses the point. We must change our behavior and it will always cost us.

The market fails right now because it does not capture the externalities and long term, GIGANTIC COSTS, to civilization and the planet.

So if not Cap and trade then regulation. But stand for something now.

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