Florida pastor Terry Jones denied entry to Canada, heads home

[Bozita]

Source: Detroit News

October 11, 2012 at 6:12 pm
Florida pastor Terry Jones denied entry to Canada, heads home
By Oralandar Brand-Williams
The Detroit News


Detroit — Controversial Florida pastor Terry Jones was released from detention Thursday by Canadian authorities and is on his way home after being denied entry into Canada.

Jones and his co-pastor, Wayne Sapp, say they were detained by Canadian authorities on the Canada side of the Ambassador Bridge around 10 a.m. on their way to Toronto for a rally called Canadians United Against Terror. The event was planned for 6 p.m.

Jones said he and Sapp were frisked and their car and luggage were searched. They say they were asked by authorities whether they had a copy of the film "Innocence of Muslims" with them. The men said they did not have a copy of the controversial movie, which has sparked violent protests in the Middle East.

Nor did Jones, who arms himself with a handgun, have a weapon. The men said Canadian border officers told them they were denied entry because they had an arrest record from last year, when the pair refused to take out a peace bond to protest in front of a Dearborn mosque. Sapp said the arrests were supposedly to be stricken from their record.



Read more: http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20121011/METRO/210110472#ixzz2923dYRda

[Autumn]

1. I got to say, I like that Canada.

Wonder if it's the water?

[hrmjustin]

2. can't they send him to the yukon so we never here from him.

[freshwest]

7. Let's start a fund for him to fly to preach his brand of hatred in Saudi Arabia.

That would accomplish the same goal, but faster. Who knows, they might all convert! Then the wackjobs here would stop pushing wars between our country and theirs. And stop funding him without a big, bad foreign enemy to squawk about...

[hrmjustin]

8. that is an idea.

[LeftofObama]

10. I would love to see that! n/t

[Indpndnt]

20. I'm in! n/t

[jtuck004]

24. Afghanistan. He would be a big hit, I'm sure. n/t

[TrogL]

3. Excellent.

[Wait Wut]

4. If the US had refused to let him back in...

...would he have been sucked into some sort of border black hole? I think we should try it...in the name of science or sumthin'.

[AsahinaKimi]

43. That would have been

righteous, wouldn't it? Imagine him standing there going.."WTF..where will I go now?" Officer: "You can go to hell, for all I care.."

[Jessy169]

5. Where are all the fierce first amendment free speech "rights" absolutists?

Soon, they'll be along to denounce Canada for restricting the "free speech" rights of this loathesome slug. Terry Jones has been wronged for not being allowed to spread his brand of hate and slime in Canada. Thank God Canada has reasonable laws that prevent grotesque individuals like Terry Jones from dominating their national conversation with all the hate and lies that we have to endure here in America. American's can learn a lot from their northern neighbor in this regards, IMO.

[central scrutinizer]

11. time for Rmoney to rattle the sabers (I guess that would be sabres in Canada)

and insult them and embarrass himself

[freshwest]

25. There's a t-shirt for that already!

[Lucy Goosey]

26. I hear you, but I don't even think it has to do with that.

I think it's just that they had arrest records.

[NYC Liberal]

32. They weren't denied entry because of anything they said.

They weren't allowed in because they had an arrest record.

The US has a similar policy with regards to denying entry to those with arrest records.

[Marrah_G]

44. Well, he is not Canadian and we are not Canada.

Not allowing someone to visit your country is different from locking someone up in their own country.

[yurbud]

54. I'm always torn about guys like this. On the one hand, their rhetoric is inflammatory and can cause

physical harm and even death to others.

On the other, if we did effective silence their violent and hateful rhetoric, it has the side effect of making them look more reasonable and therefore more acceptable to more people, and therefore easier for them to get and hold on to power.

[4th law of robotics]

62. The first amendment is the law of the land

Here, in the US.

Other nations are not legally obligated to uphold our rights (although I wish they would choose to adopt them).

[dballance]

65. Since When did the US Constitution Apply to Canada?

The 1st Amendment of the US Constitution is for the US. Not for any other country.

Canada, in fact, has hate speech laws. So they could have legally prohibited him from entering their country based on vicious tripe he preaches here in the US.

[Cha]

6. Country is Smart! Who would want

a fooking hatemonger in their country if they had a choice?

I've been to Canada and I loved it.. Awesome geo and the Peeps!

[crim son]

9. I am so proud to be Canadian.

They also won't let Faux Snooze broadcast there, because the law forbid lying on a new program. Go figure.

[Lucy Goosey]

27. No longer true

Faux News was blocked for a long time, but they are available, at least in parts of the country, now. I had it as a free promo for a while in Ottawa, and it is still available for anyone here willing to pay for it. (I was actually watching Fox when they called the 08 election for Obama - it was pretty awesome. They all got so sad!)

[crim son]

53. I did not know that.

I can understand being able to get it by paying for it, but is it out there as a viable news option on regular t.v.? Man, that's depressing. But thank you for correcting me.

[mwooldri]

12. Canada's only doing what USA does to other people in other countries.

Any mention of a criminal record, even just being arrested, will get people wanting to get into the USA under the visa waiver program barred from entry, and a visa will have to be applied for.

Now the tables are turned, Mr. Jones has been arrested in the past. So under a visa-free system he is denied entry. If he wants entry he will need to apply for a visa.

Seems fair since the UK banned him from entry in 2011.

[underthematrix]

13. LOL!! so Canada did

not lay out the welcome mat for American domestic terrorists Jones and Sapp.

[Raster]

14. Good for Canada!

[BrainMann1]

15. Terry, Terry,Terry what are we going to do with you?

[LiberalElite]

16. We don't want him either!

It's a shame we had to let him back in.

[Up2Late]

17. Awesome!

Way to go Canada!!!

[Brilly]

18. Yeh!!!!!!!!!

I am Canadian and so proud hear that the border guys did that.

You can not go on the air waves here like Faux News and spread venom. We do have free speech but not
when it spreads racism, violence etc.

I remember when Ann Coulter was invited to speak at a College in Ontario. Here is a link to that story.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/ann-coulters-speech-in-ottawa-cancelled/article4352616/

She was sent packing!!! Thank goodness... Then she used every opportunity to put down the College and Canada.
Good Riddance we don't need riff raff like her here....

[Lucy Goosey]

29. I was at that demonstration against Coulter. She was not in danger.

She pretty clearly wimped out because she thought being "prevented" from speaking would be a better headline than her actual speech.

[Posteritatis]

42. That whole visit was a fiasco; it was great. Even Western didn't like her. (nt)

[PD Turk]

19. He's a troublemaker with a rap sheet

I don't blame Canada for not wanting his shit up there,

[Loki]

21. He's a walking turd.

No wonder Canada said no.

[Uncle Joe]

22. Kudos to the great nation of Canada.

Thanks for the thread, Bozita.

[Third Doctor]

23. Canada seems to have more common sense than many in the US.

[bluedigger]

28. He's one of those guys you'd like to see get stuck in an International airport.

Where no country would take him.

[rationalcalgarian]

30. Not the first time, either...

In 2008, the Westboro Baptist Church planned to picket a funeral in Winnipeg, Manitoba. Not the funeral of a veteran, but that of a murder victim. (I don't get it, either.) They were turned away at the border and the explanation given was that is was "for their own safety".

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/story/2008/08/08/westboro-protest.html

It should be noted that the Public Safety Minister was Stockwell Day, himself an admitted creationist who believes that Jesus rode a dinosaur and that every word in the bible should be taken literally. Even he found the Westboro gang too disgusting and repulsive to be allowed into the country.

[BlueDemKev]

31. Smart move, Canada.

Couldn't you have thrown him in Hudson Bay instead of sending him back to the U.S.?

[rationalcalgarian]

33. We could have

but we have strict pollution laws.

[BlueDemKev]

34. Heh-heh...

...I see.

[closeupready]

59. LOL

[4dsc]

35. Canada sucks

Most people with the slightest infractions on their records cannot get into Canada. A simple arrest record is a good example. Give me a break.

[George II]

38. When bush as president visited Canada years ago.............

.....he needed a special proclamation from the Prime Minister. Americans convicted of DUI cannot enter Canada otherwise.

[Posteritatis]

41. Uh, you know most countries have that rule, right?

The US has a similar rule, and takes it a step further by not recognizing pardons.

[Duppers]

61. your opinion

Nt

[Swede Atlanta]

36. I love Canada...

I would try to move there if it wasn't so cold .....Can Canada please take over a Caribbean island please?

[George II]

37. I'm PROUD of my Canada!

[levp]

39. But before we start singing "O, Canada!"...

...let's remember a similar incident:

Amy Goodman Detained at Canadian Border, Questioned about Speech...and 2010 Olympics
(can't post proper links)
www.democracynow.org/2009/11/30/amy_goodman_detained_at_canadian_border

[George II]

46. Oh come on! People get stopped at the border every day.............

..........in BOTH directions! "Armed interrogators"? They're immigration officials. I can't tell you how many times I've been stopped and questioned about where I'm going, how long I'm staying, what the purpose of my visit is, what hotel I'm staying at....etc. etc. etc.

"they took our passports and told us to pull over"?? That's routine. Oh, by the way they were admitted, weren't they?

You really need to travel a little more.

[yellowcanine]

49. My wife and I had our car completely ransacked in 1972 at the Thousand Islands

Border Post in 1972 by U.S. customs officials.
To be fair, my hair was kind of long and my wife was wearing a granny dress.

My guess is they were looking for weed.

[marble falls]

40. I love Canada and Canadians. If I couldn't be in the US, I'd gladly live in Montreal or Toronto.

[sinkingfeeling]

45. Thank you, Canada!

[Anthony McCarthy]

47. Canada is smarter about excluding hate mongers

Canada has more rational laws against promoting hate than we do. Not perfect, maybe, but better than the delusional U.S. ones.

[alp227]

58. Canada does not have a first amendment type of law

Restricting hate speech is more rational? As a first amendment absolutist I disagree.

[4th law of robotics]

63. I've yet to hear a definition for hate speech

that is suitably limited that it could never be turned around and used on speech that is merely unpopular at the moment.

Is protesting in favor of reproductive rights "hate speech"? To some yes. Some people even consider it worth killing over so that would cover the potential incitement to violence that a few like to throw around.

Should we limit it because a few view it so unfavorably? I would say no.

[yellowcanine]

48. Did they do a cavity search on "Pastor" Jones? If not, how can they be sure he did not have a gun?

Or a copy of the film?

[Joe Bacon]

50. LMAO!

[hockeynut57]

57. they did!!!

and all they found up his ass was his head

[47of74]

51. LOL

[JitterbugPerfume]

52. dumb asses

[lib2DaBone]

55. Pastor Terry is a shady CIA spook....

... reportedly worked for the CIA in Germany for 20 years.

[hockeynut57]

56. inventing hockey AND this ? go i love canada nt

[Akoto]

60. I've got a real problem with you, Canada.

He was finally gone from Florida, and you sent him back! Why? Why?!

[dballance]

66. If He Really Believes His Arrest is Ever Really Stricken from the Record He is Sadly Mistaken

It might be stricken from the databases that provide employers background checks and even the local databases where he was arrested. But I have no doubt those records never really get stricken from at least some of the databases maintained by our government organizations like the NSA, FBI, CIA, TSA, DHS, Customs, etc. Which is probably why the Canadians found the records. I'd be shocked if we didn't have some agreement to mutually share these types of records with each other.