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villager

(26,001 posts)
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 11:54 AM Oct 2012

Mitt Romney pulls ahead of Barack Obama 47 to 44 % in Reuters/IPSOS tracking poll

Last edited Thu Oct 11, 2012, 02:01 PM - Edit history (1)

Source: Reuters

This was a Reuters Tweet just posted on Breakingnews.com

On edit:

From a Reuters article appearing later in the A.M.:

"Romney now leads the Democrat by 47 percent to 44 percent among likely voters in the online poll, with less than a month before the November 6 election. The Republican had a one-point lead over Obama in survey results on Wednesday, his first in more than a month.

"Romney has been enjoying one of his best runs of the campaign after handily winning the first presidential debate last week, partially due to Obama's passive performance in that contest.

"The momentum is in Romney's direction right now," Ipsos pollster Julia Clark said."

<snip>



Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/11/us-usa-campaign-poll-idUSBRE8991FR20121011

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Mitt Romney pulls ahead of Barack Obama 47 to 44 % in Reuters/IPSOS tracking poll (Original Post) villager Oct 2012 OP
The polls are all over the place. Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2012 #1
A Chicago Tribune piece on a different (parallel?) Reuters/Ipsos poll, evidently: villager Oct 2012 #2
That isn't it. gcomeau Oct 2012 #5
Shoot, you're right -- I mixed up news about the two polls myself in a news feed villager Oct 2012 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author Mass Oct 2012 #3
outlier poll Democrats4All Oct 2012 #4
It's usually an outlier in our favor. FBaggins Oct 2012 #51
NOT their tracking poll I suspect. gcomeau Oct 2012 #6
Why oh why would anyone vote for someone who has so many red flags??? SacoMaine61 Oct 2012 #7
You would think that theTeabags would be mad ~ goclark Oct 2012 #21
it's bush reversed ANYBODY BUT OBAMA! Puzzledtraveller Oct 2012 #24
You forgot Major Asshole. Or is he a General Dickwad? n/t AAO Oct 2012 #37
Because the Tee Vee Tells Them To AndyTiedye Oct 2012 #45
Details >>>> Roland99 Oct 2012 #8
"the online poll"? mzmolly Oct 2012 #15
Hope so lexw Oct 2012 #16
Their 'regular' polls shows a one point lead for Romney ... but mzmolly Oct 2012 #20
The whole thing is shocking.... lexw Oct 2012 #58
Reuters is becoming ProSense Oct 2012 #10
BS heaven05 Oct 2012 #11
What possible evidence could there be in thinking Americans could ever be that stupid!? villager Oct 2012 #12
Please put a proper link in the OP, and use the title of the link muriel_volestrangler Oct 2012 #31
That is a proper title and link of course villager Oct 2012 #33
Please edit the OP to use the actual title (nt) muriel_volestrangler Oct 2012 #41
YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT! Th1onein Oct 2012 #19
I'm dsnot buying it either.... ywcachieve Oct 2012 #42
Romney can't break 47% in a skewed poll? Bad sign for him. berni_mccoy Oct 2012 #13
Dont believe that hyped BS...nt and-justice-for-all Oct 2012 #14
I'd love to see their LV/RV split... regnaD kciN Oct 2012 #17
their LV model is probably way too fickle 0rganism Oct 2012 #61
We need to get to work iandhr Oct 2012 #18
YAwn L0oniX Oct 2012 #22
It's an ONLINE poll. LMFAO berni_mccoy Oct 2012 #23
then what the hell is this doing in latest breaking news? /nt still_one Oct 2012 #25
Just wait until the Democrats vote!.... OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #26
I share your optimism. ywcachieve Oct 2012 #50
Bullshit.They are prepping the field to steal another election.Gone so far as to say "no exit polls" judesedit Oct 2012 #27
Obama is doing fine in battleground states Maximumnegro Oct 2012 #29
All this "poll hysteria" with wildly fluctuating numbers that don't make sense... AlbertCat Oct 2012 #28
There is NO WAY Romney Will Win. Megahurtz Oct 2012 #30
Can you guarantee that? n/t Puzzledtraveller Oct 2012 #40
Why would someone give up period, let alone give up and vote ywcachieve Oct 2012 #48
I wouldn't worry about it. OnlinePoker Oct 2012 #32
Exactly! Rasmussen gives Obama only a 1 point lead in Ohio, where others give him 6. SunSeeker Oct 2012 #34
Problem usually is this. They oversample "independents" who are almost always repugs. progressivebydesign Oct 2012 #35
Exactly. ywcachieve Oct 2012 #46
They missed me... Swede Atlanta Oct 2012 #36
Anyone want to bet... regnaD kciN Oct 2012 #38
WTF??? ailsagirl Oct 2012 #39
Obama's pitiful oswaldactedalone Oct 2012 #59
That is complete and utter garbage. Bye bye! ailsagirl Oct 2012 #64
Here comes the setup for a close election... santamargarita Oct 2012 #43
For sake of discussion do you think we would concede right away? Puzzledtraveller Oct 2012 #49
My dear Democrats, and other President Obama supporters, STOP looking at polls, ywcachieve Oct 2012 #44
Are you kidding? There are people on this forum who live for polls. slackmaster Oct 2012 #47
{sigh} ywcachieve Oct 2012 #60
Reuters; enough said. /nt Ash_F Oct 2012 #52
Now is the time donnasgirl Oct 2012 #53
Comparing Reuters/Ipsos poll for Oct 2, Oct 10 and Oct 11 ProSense Oct 2012 #54
What do they mean by "online poll?" Jim__ Oct 2012 #55
Funny isn't it? dawn frenzy adams Oct 2012 #56
LOL. OK, now pull my other finger. PSPS Oct 2012 #57
Enough with this polling bullshit already...nt and-justice-for-all Oct 2012 #62
That's a national poll, where Romney is picking up more support in red states vinny9698 Oct 2012 #63
fakin' it close so they can steal it. NuttyFluffers Oct 2012 #65
 

villager

(26,001 posts)
2. A Chicago Tribune piece on a different (parallel?) Reuters/Ipsos poll, evidently:
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 11:58 AM
Oct 2012
There seem to be two different Reuters/Ipsos results in the news cycle today? Thanks to gcomeau for pointing that out...

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Republican challenger Mitt Romney has pulled ahead of President Barack Obama in the race for the White House for the first time in more than a month and leads 45 percent to 44 percent among likely voters, according to a Reuters/Ipsos tracking poll released on Wednesday.

With just under four weeks to go before the November 6 election, Romney's surge followed his strong performance against Obama in last week's debate and erased a jump in support that Obama had enjoyed following the September 3-6 Democratic National Convention.

The poll showed that voters have warmed to Romney across a range of policy issues following the debate.

<snip>

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2012-10-10/news/sns-rt-us-usa-campaign-pollbre8991fr-20121010_1_ipsos-poll-alistair-bell-deborah-charles
 

gcomeau

(5,764 posts)
5. That isn't it.
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 12:03 PM
Oct 2012

That's a 1 point lead. And the next update of their tracking poll won't be until tonight.

I suspect whoever tweeted this screwed up the headline/ Ipsos Reuters has a tracking poll AND a one time per month separate poll. It's about time for the one time per month poll to come out, Romney may have been up 3 in that.

FYI, last time the one time a month poll came out it skewed more toward Romney than the tracking poll did.

 

villager

(26,001 posts)
9. Shoot, you're right -- I mixed up news about the two polls myself in a news feed
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 12:06 PM
Oct 2012

I will amend the previous post

Response to villager (Original post)

Democrats4All

(54 posts)
4. outlier poll
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 12:02 PM
Oct 2012

This poll has been an outlier all year. It had obama up by 12 points nationally before the debate. I would give more weight to nbc marist, cnn,quinnipiac, ppp, even rasmussen over the reuters online poll.

FBaggins

(26,753 posts)
51. It's usually an outlier in our favor.
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 02:48 PM
Oct 2012

(to the extent it is at all) - So that doesn't help much.

Also... it's hard to call something an outlier (by definition about a 1-in-20 poll) when it's within the close margin of error of essentially every other national poll.

 

gcomeau

(5,764 posts)
6. NOT their tracking poll I suspect.
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 12:05 PM
Oct 2012

It's about time for their separate once monthly poll to come out. Last month that skewed more towards Romney than their tracking did. Not sure what differences in methodology there are or why they need two polls exactly...

SacoMaine61

(114 posts)
7. Why oh why would anyone vote for someone who has so many red flags???
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 12:05 PM
Oct 2012

Won't release tax returns
Flip flops day to day (Palestinian state, pro-choice, same sex marriage, tax plan)
Detail-free deficit reduction plan
Pretends his health-care plan is not what it is
47%
Offshore bank accounts
Mysterious $100 mil in an IRA
Insulting England, Spain
Vulture capitalist
Assaulting high school classmate
'Pranking' in an officer's uniform
Directing a sight-impaired person to walk through a closed door
Doesn't understand how emergency room care is not a solution


goclark

(30,404 posts)
21. You would think that theTeabags would be mad ~
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 12:34 PM
Oct 2012

but they must love him now because they like Flip Flops from their positions- don't think so but they are really quirt.

Puzzledtraveller

(5,937 posts)
24. it's bush reversed ANYBODY BUT OBAMA!
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 01:07 PM
Oct 2012

We need to realize that is their motivation this time. Stop trying to use reason to figure it out.

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
8. Details >>>>
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 12:06 PM
Oct 2012
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/11/us-usa-campaign-poll-thu-idUSBRE89A12U20121011

Republican challenger Mitt Romney has extended his lead over President Barack Obama to 3 percentage points, according to a Reuters/Ipsos tracking poll released on Thursday, ahead of a high-stakes debate between the two candidates' running mates.

Romney now leads the Democrat by 47 percent to 44 percent among likely voters in the online poll, with less than a month before the November 6 election. The Reuters/Ipsos tracking poll released on Wednesday had shown Romney with a one-point lead over Obama, his first lead in the survey in more than a month.

Romney has been enjoying one of his best runs of the campaign after handily winning the first presidential debate last week, partially due to Obama's passive performance in that contest.


mzmolly

(51,002 posts)
20. Their 'regular' polls shows a one point lead for Romney ... but
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 12:28 PM
Oct 2012

began on 10/6.

http://www.ipsos-na.com/news-polls/pressrelease.aspx?id=5817

These are findings from an Ipsos poll conducted for Thomson Reuters from Oct. 6-10, 2012. For the survey, a sample of 1,199 American registered voters and 1,027 Likely Voters (all age 18 and over) was interviewed online. The precision of the Reuters/Ipsos online polls is measured using a credibility interval. In this case, the poll has a credibility interval of plus or minus 3.3 percentage points for Registered Voters and 3.5 for Likely Voters. For more information about credibility intervals, please see the appendix.

Ras has Obama up 1 over Rmoney.

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Thursday shows President Obama attracting support from 48% of voters nationwide, while Mitt Romney earns the vote from 47%.


http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

lexw

(804 posts)
58. The whole thing is shocking....
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 06:54 PM
Oct 2012

Obama should be up by a huge margin. Romney is a joke, and Ryan is the same. This is disgusting.
BTW: I'm shocked that none of this is on Yahoo "NEWS". I've been following their reporting since last year (taking screen shots), and as right leaning as they are, they should have a huge banner posted across the webpage about Romney being on top, but I don't see a thing.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
10. Reuters is becoming
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 12:08 PM
Oct 2012

a useless poll. This is data from its Wednesday poll.

Fascinating: comparing Reuters/Ipsos poll for Oct 2 to Oct 10
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021510075

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
11. BS
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 12:09 PM
Oct 2012

this is horse race BULLSHIT to generate M$M profits. One debate is not going to cause that kind of right wing surge with all the obvious and egregious lies told by that mittytwit!!! If americans are that stupid may we get what we deserve by electoral process or theft.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,333 posts)
31. Please put a proper link in the OP, and use the title of the link
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 01:50 PM
Oct 2012

or the LBN hosts will have to lock this thread - there's nothing about a poll in your OP link.

Th1onein

(8,514 posts)
19. YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT!
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 12:25 PM
Oct 2012

Sorry, I'm just not buying this poll shit. Nope, not now, not ever. Obama has been ahead in the polls from the very beginning and gaining stronger and stronger leads every day, and then a debate where Romney makes a fool of himself puts him behind? Uh uh. Sorry, I'm not biting.

regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
17. I'd love to see their LV/RV split...
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 12:19 PM
Oct 2012

Ipsos has been unbelievably flaky recently with their tracking poll; I wonder if the same might apply here. For example, in their tracker, the day before the debate, they had O+5 LV; a week later, it was R+4 LV...yet the RV numbers were O+3 both times. In other words, the nine-point shift between these two days was due to a change in the LV screen, and nothing else.



0rganism

(23,959 posts)
61. their LV model is probably way too fickle
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 11:01 PM
Oct 2012

And they're not the only ones doing it. Weighting by enthusiasm based on recent events is bound to paint a chaotic picture.

OldDem2012

(3,526 posts)
26. Just wait until the Democrats vote!....
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 01:08 PM
Oct 2012

Online poll....no doubt can be explained as exceptionally scientific.




NEXT!!

judesedit

(4,440 posts)
27. Bullshit.They are prepping the field to steal another election.Gone so far as to say "no exit polls"
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 01:11 PM
Oct 2012

Not once have a seen a huge crowd show up for Rob-me. Always show a small-frame picture. Thousands show up for Obama every time in every state. Even N Carolina was great. The media is owned by Daddy Warbucks and his buddies and they will do ANYTHING and EVERYTHING possible under this sun to maintain power. Don't buy into it. VOTE! And take as many SENSIBLE people you can to the polls. Better yet, vote absentee and take it to democratic headquarters or campaign office.

Maximumnegro

(1,134 posts)
29. Obama is doing fine in battleground states
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 01:17 PM
Oct 2012

Ohio is close to a lock in OH based on early voting. As the O campaign stated tuesday, the race is stagnant.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
28. All this "poll hysteria" with wildly fluctuating numbers that don't make sense...
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 01:14 PM
Oct 2012

... is just because the GOP have been buried at the bottom of polls for a while and so THEY complained about skewed polls and turned polling into some sort of fantasy sport. The MSM is playing along because they are bought and paid for and they like a close horse race because of ratings.

Remember rule #1: If the GOP is outraged by something, you can be sure they themselves are doing it, not the people their faux-rage is directed at.

The thing to take away, as far as I can see, is...

forget the polls (until close to the election.... or during, like exit polls. Are they doing those this year?)

Megahurtz

(7,046 posts)
30. There is NO WAY Romney Will Win.
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 01:29 PM
Oct 2012

These polls are nothing but propaganda "convince the public to give up and vote for Romney" bullshit.
Nothing but pure GOP propaganda bullshit.

ywcachieve

(365 posts)
48. Why would someone give up period, let alone give up and vote
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 02:35 PM
Oct 2012

for Romney?
President Obama's supporters are solid.

progressivebydesign

(19,458 posts)
35. Problem usually is this. They oversample "independents" who are almost always repugs.
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 02:07 PM
Oct 2012

They did this last election, too. They do the 1/3 dem, 1/3 repug, 1/3 independent. Problem is that independents are NOT 1/3 of voters, AND they're almost always republicans who fancy themselves independents.

regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
38. Anyone want to bet...
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 02:12 PM
Oct 2012

...that, despite the excellent swing-state polls, this, along with Gallup and Monmouth, will cause Nate Silver to drop Obama's odds to below 65%?



ailsagirl

(22,897 posts)
39. WTF???
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 02:15 PM
Oct 2012

I don't understand what the hell is going on.

The President was ahead everywhere and suddenly Nitt/Lyin are way ahead???

Now I'm thinking I smell a rat

What about the 7.8% ???

oswaldactedalone

(3,491 posts)
59. Obama's pitiful
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 07:16 PM
Oct 2012

debate showing overrode anything that happened afterward. He bombed in front of 60 million people and the other 260 million quickly found out. The impact of unemployment figures is essentially meaningless to voters after the enormity of Obama's loss.

ywcachieve

(365 posts)
44. My dear Democrats, and other President Obama supporters, STOP looking at polls,
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 02:30 PM
Oct 2012

and just VOTE!
President Obama does not need you guys freaking out over polls, he needs your VOTE!

donnasgirl

(656 posts)
53. Now is the time
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 03:18 PM
Oct 2012

To kick ass people,if you want this president start moving and give what you can.The polls are to close and i want to see this liar sent packing to the curb.

dawn frenzy adams

(429 posts)
56. Funny isn't it?
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 04:01 PM
Oct 2012

When the Republicans make a complaint, the default position of the media is to respond swiftly. The Republicans have been whining about the liberal media and skewed polls. So the Mainstream Media used the debate to right a false wrong. So did the polling companies. Frankly, they have never been a friend to Democrats or Progressives.

The question is why are we supporting these Republican lead media conglomerates with our cable/ satellite subscriptions- and advertising dollars? Right now we should be creating a petition to drop our subscriptions. The only way Romney can win is through the complicity of the media and rigged electronic voting machines. Don't let them do it!

You'd better get ready for a battle.

vinny9698

(1,016 posts)
63. That's a national poll, where Romney is picking up more support in red states
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 11:57 PM
Oct 2012

Romney is getting higher numbers in red states. But the states that count are the swing states. We all know those are the states that matter in any election.

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