'I'm not a communist': Potential Biden running mate Rep. Bass reassures Cuban American voters
Source: NBC News
Rep. Karen Bass, the five-term California congresswoman and potential Joe Biden running mate, urged Cuban American voters Monday to not believe the lies of Republicans.
Im not a socialist. Im not a communist. Ive belonged to one party my entire life and thats the Democratic Party and Im a Christian, Bass told NBC News.
As Bass has emerged as a potential vice presidential pick, Republicans have seized on Bass history of visits to Cuba. It's an overture to the significant segment of Cuban American and other Latino voters in the swing state of Florida who have backed Republican candidates over their hardline stances against the communist country. Recent polls show President Donald Trump is lagging there.
I dont believe that its right to paint the Latino population with one brush, even the Cuban population, Bass said. The Latino population is often painted as only being interested in immigration, and the black population is painted as only interested in race. I dont think any of those are true, Bass said.
Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/i-m-not-communist-potential-biden-running-mate-rep-bass-n1235667
Sorry but, when you have to say "I am not..." followed by anything, you've already lost the argument.
MiniMe
(21,716 posts)And I can't imagine Joe picking Sarah as a running mate.
onetexan
(13,041 posts)Zambero
(8,964 posts)Not a strongly worded statement IMO.
StevieM
(10,500 posts)Captain Zero
(6,806 posts)Just asking.
nycbos
(6,034 posts)Compared to Harris, Rice, or Demmings she seems like a lightweight.
still_one
(92,213 posts)as an argument.
Both Harris and Rice were asked if they were Democratic Socialists, and came out and said they were NOT Democratic Socialists. They did NOT accept the republican talking point, and the media propagation of it.
When Obama was falsely accused of being Muslim and not a citizen, according to some implications in this thread, that was disqualifying him. It didn't matter if it was false. Of course President Obama did come out and say he wasn't a Muslim, he was a Christian, and produced his birth certificate.
The republicans are already pushing that Susan Rice is responsible for the ambassador's killing in Benghazi
You know darn well that Ukrainian lies from the republicans are going to be thrown at Biden, regardless of the fact that there is plenty of evidence that their accusations are baseless
My point being isn't that we should or should not consider Rep. Bass as a VP nominee, but that we shouldn't let the republicans, and the press, define who are candidates are
The Mouth
(3,150 posts)Never trust Republicans telling us what we should do.
still_one
(92,213 posts)ehrnst
(32,640 posts)intelligent and experienced.
oasis
(49,388 posts)Biden will pass on Bass.
bringthePaine
(1,728 posts)patphil
(6,180 posts)I really don't think it's a good idea to pick a VP that has to insist she isn't a communist.
still_one
(92,213 posts)and produced he full birth certificate when he was accused of not being a citizen
I guess Kamala Harris and Elizabeth Warren said they were NOT Democratic socialists during the primaries disqualifies them also in some folk's minds
patphil
(6,180 posts)I don't have a problem with Karen Bass, but I only represent one vote in the coming election.
As unfair as it is, her background will be used against a Biden/Bass ticket.
Cuba, Castro, and Communism are still words that cause knee jerk reactions in many voters.
Her connection with the Students for a Democratic Society (SDS) and the Venceremos Brigades is going to be played up in a most unfavorable light.
The fact that it happened 45 years ago when Bass was a young, idealistic woman isn't going to count for much in the shit storm of controversy the Republicans will stir up.
I am being pragmatic here.
I believe having Karen Bass as VP will cost the ticket several million votes across the country.
Right now Florida is leaning toward Biden. I'd hate to see that state slip away.
The truth is that Karen Bass would be a good Vice-President.
Unfortunately, politics are more about emotion and perception than truth.
With the future of the Republic at stake, I would rather have a VP candidate without such an obvious attack point for the Republicans to work with.
still_one
(92,213 posts)republican distraction.
I just don't think we should fall into these kind of divisive baiting traps
Ferrets are Cool
(21,106 posts)We do NOT need this shit.
tinrobot
(10,903 posts)still_one
(92,213 posts)of Democrats always always seem to be dictated by republican talking points that are propagated by the media?
President Obama didn't stand for that when falsely accused of not being a citizen, whose religious denomination was a Muslim.
John Kerry, unfortunately, allowed the republicans and the media to push the swift puke narrative, and didn't refute it strongly, and we paid the consequences.
The republicans making a joke of "Gore inventing the internet", and the media propagating that narrative, instead of pointing out that it was Gore who introduced legislation which made the internet accessible to the public
I can go on and on, but this is right out of the Joseph McCarthy playbook that the republicans have been following for sometime now. Rove's mentor, the racist Lee Atwater taught them how it was done
They failed miserably when President Obama called them out on it, and that is how you fight it
tinrobot
(10,903 posts)I understand your point, but when she says stuff like that, it is disqualifying.
Karen is great in Congress, but we can do better for VP.
still_one
(92,213 posts)believe that Rep. Bass will be Biden's VP selection, but saying that this is disqualifying, what do you think they are going to say about President Obama opening a dialog with Cuba when Biden was VP
No matter who the VP choice is, the republicans will throw lies and distortions out, and we have to go on the offensive
tinrobot
(10,903 posts)ehrnst
(32,640 posts)rumors of "secret muslim," so yes, that was an attempt to distance and deny that falsehood.
He also made sure to have his photo taken drinking beer and eating pork products.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Miguelito Loveless
(4,465 posts)VERY concerned about endorsement of $cientology.
The Mouth
(3,150 posts)All religions are equally stupid.
Miguelito Loveless
(4,465 posts)but there is a difference. $cientology was a created as a scam from the outset, and succeeded wildly. It was basically a bar bet between writers that Hubbard could create a religion and enjoy all of the perks thereof.
The Mouth
(3,150 posts)A newer scam, the origins being actually documented, makes it no more - or less- imbecilic, evil, manipulative, and/or useless than any other invisible sky-fairy bullshit that has older and more obscure origins or more idiots adhering to it. All of it is evil, the fact one person is suckered into something created in the last few generations but someone else can claim generations of idiots and/or psychopaths preceded them doesn't make an argument pro or con, in my humble opinion. Nothing dumber or more disqualifying than speaking at a mosque or a cathedral.
Miguelito Loveless
(4,465 posts)or would there be several dozen posts under this explaining in detail that no one who speaks praise of $cientilogy she he trusted?
Would it be ok if she praised Liberty U. And the Falwells? What about Pat Robertson? Benny Hinn? Jim Baker? Ken Copeland? The weird lady obsessed with demon semen?
The Mouth
(3,150 posts)They are simply better than we are (probably due to inherent authoritarianism) at sucking it up and getting out to vote.
I think a lot of Republicans loath Trump, they just deal with it because he hates the same people they hate. He wants to hurt the same people they want to hurt.
If a Republican were sufficiently authoritarian and far enough right on abortion, guns, and race, but a Scientologist, Jew, or Hindu, I'd bet my last dollar that Liberty University and Pat Robertson would be behind them all the way. Look at all the Evangelicals pimping for Trump
Miguelito Loveless
(4,465 posts)is would folks still back a Dem candidate endorsing those people and institutions? Sadly, the answer is yes, under the claim of being a big tent party. We have pretty much always gotten knifed for our efforts. I remember being told to shut up over my objection to Joe Lieberman, and man did he sell us out.
The Mouth
(3,150 posts)Supreme Court.
Miguelito Loveless
(4,465 posts)which is not true. I simply state that she is a bad choice for the reasons stated.
The Mouth
(3,150 posts)I am not a huge Biden fan , I was unabashedly for Bernie in the primaries both times. There's a lot I don't care for with Joe. But it all comes down to SCOTUS, everything else is details, anything else can be fixed.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)If youre cynical like me, then you know this is nothing more than a conservative media outlets attempt to discredit a potential VP selection. But its also not doctored footage or anything. So fair game.
The best case scenario here is that Bass was asked to speak at the opening of a religious venue in her community one whose members include some rich and powerful people who may well become donors and she knew next to nothing about Scientology. So she praised them for their public statements and alleged mission, fully ignorant of the deep, dark, disturbing, and dangerous nature of the cult.
Its not like she wouldve been alone. There were other politicians on stage that day and the New Yorkers Lawrence Wright didnt expose the Church until 2011, nearly a year after this event. Thats not to say the disturbing aspects of Scientology were a secret or anything, but someone who wasnt paying attention might not have been familiar with the more frightening stories.
Based on her remarks, which are superficial at best, that seems to be the case here. She just didnt know what she was getting into. She gave positive remarks at a ribbon-cutting ceremony. She offered lip service to a group she knew very little about. Thats not weird. (Ive seen politicians give remarks at a Jain Temple; its always obvious their knowledge of the religion consists of whatevers in the first couple of sentences on Wikipedia and nothing more.
https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2020/08/01/rep-karen-bass-praised-the-church-of-scientology-in-2010-its-not-a-big-deal/
Miguelito Loveless
(4,465 posts)about L. Ron Hubbard, con man and sexual predator.
If she didn't bother to vette the guy before praising him, then sorry, not qualified for the job.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Difference between praising him for the life he led.
Ribbon cuttings rarely merit vetting. But if one needs a reason to demonize her, I guess it works as well as anything.
As I recall, praise for Castro and the Soviet Union was not considered a dealbreaker when it came from a caucasian man running for President.
The Mouth
(3,150 posts)Like some psycho who was ready to sacrifice their kid because of the voices they heard, or any of the people who developed religions following that nutcase. All pedos and/or violent sociopaths hoping for the end of the world.
No nuttier than any other belief, no more evil than any other founder of a creed.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)https://www.hrw.org/news/2016/11/26/cuba-fidel-castros-record-repression
That's interesting. And rather inconsistent, considering your statements on why you think anything but ranting is unacceptable at a ribbon cutting involving them.
still_one
(92,213 posts)what do you do when you are falsely accused of something you are not?
President Obama has been accused of not being an American Citizen, a Muslim, and other falsehoods. He did not let those false accusation stand. He said he was a Christian. A similar thing happened when he was accused of not being a citizen. President Barack Obama released the long-form version of his birth certificate.
If someone accuses you something that isn't true, you have to address.
Kerry did NOT adequately confront the swift boat liars, and paid the consequences of that
Elizabeth Warren and Kamala Harris were both accused of being socialists, and they made it very clear they were NOT:
https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/433381-warren-says-its-just-wrong-to-call-her-a-socialist
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/430554-kamala-harris-i-am-not-a-democratic-socialist
Many of these false accusations are propagated by the media, and it is imperative that they be called out if they are lies. Doing say will leave the impression they are valid
brooklynite
(94,586 posts)She was accused of speaking favorably of Castro. Which she did.
still_one
(92,213 posts)She isnt going to be the VP selection anyway
It will be Nina Turner
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)And Bass clarified her words, whereas Sanders never uttered a single regret or clarficiation about his statements.
betsuni
(25,537 posts)statements about the Cuban Revolution, and it hasn't changed:
"Usually I'm sufficiently unemotional not to be sick. I actually got up from the room and almost left to puke because, for the first time in my adult life, what I was seeing is the Democrats and Republicans, both of them, clearly there wasn't really a whole lot of difference between the two."
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Codeine
(25,586 posts)ehrnst
(32,640 posts)ehrnst
(32,640 posts)still_one
(92,213 posts)scipan
(2,351 posts)That's who they want as VP candidate. They will save their real attacks for after the nom.