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canetoad

(17,197 posts)
Tue Jul 28, 2020, 11:28 PM Jul 2020

'Extremely personal' Ghislaine Maxwell files must be released: judge

Source: The Age

New York: An American judge ruled on Tuesday that a tranche of documents Ghislaine Maxwell has sought to keep secret must be released by Thursday (Friday AEST).

Maxwell's lawyers had previously argued that information contained in some 80 documents would cause "embarrassment" as they were "extremely personal" in nature.
Details of Ghislaine Maxwell's life are set to be revealed after a court decision.

"The subject matter of these is extremely personal, confidential and subject to considerable abuse by the media," they said in a motion to Loretta Preska, US district judge at the Southern District of New York.

"Courts must exercise their supervisory power over their own records and files to ensure they are not used to gratify private spite or promote public scandal," they continued.

Read more: https://www.theage.com.au/world/north-america/extremely-personal-ghislaine-maxwell-files-must-be-released-judge-20200729-p55gew.html

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'Extremely personal' Ghislaine Maxwell files must be released: judge (Original Post) canetoad Jul 2020 OP
So what could be that personal? soothsayer Jul 2020 #1
Maybe her and hubby's sex tapes and he would be identifiable. nt woodsprite Jul 2020 #4
Interesting possibility. soothsayer Jul 2020 #9
Yeah I wanna know! CountAllVotes Jul 2020 #14
Not married to my recollection Miguelito Loveless Jul 2020 #28
Don't know if it's true or not, but this is one article that's out there. woodsprite Jul 2020 #31
She probably fears for her life. Prison inmates loathe child molesters Thekaspervote Jul 2020 #2
She will do the hardest time of any in prison. Vinnie From Indy Jul 2020 #27
So, if you know someone in those files is going to be outed, and that would be bad for them, mahina Jul 2020 #3
Anyone involved goes down Miguelito Loveless Jul 2020 #29
Agreed mahina Jul 2020 #30
I'm down with whomever is implicated bamagal62 Jul 2020 #5
Exactly! Duppers Jul 2020 #16
Whoever is in this mess UpInArms Jul 2020 #6
Protect her fucking useless life you fucking assholes. truthisfreedom Jul 2020 #7
Let's see if I understand this correctly... GeoWilliam750 Jul 2020 #8
Oh goody!! CountAllVotes Jul 2020 #10
LOL canetoad Jul 2020 #13
The worst that's going to happen to Andrew has already happened mr_lebowski Jul 2020 #20
It will probably be appealed up to to the Supreme Court Kablooie Jul 2020 #11
I don't care who is outed. I want them outed. EllieBC Jul 2020 #12
Wonder why they do not argument, that this might expose the victims TomVilmer Jul 2020 #15
The victims want everything released JI7 Jul 2020 #17
Most victims are still unknown... TomVilmer Jul 2020 #26
They should be released rpannier Jul 2020 #18
Shouldn't this information be audited..... KY_EnviroGuy Jul 2020 #19
Yeah TBH I'm not exactly sure I 'agree' with the idea of dumping Maxwell's private documents mr_lebowski Jul 2020 #21
The files are probably for reasons of blackmail. machI Jul 2020 #22
Good Sherman A1 Jul 2020 #23
"Released" to who? The public? If they contain victims names, i disagree. oldsoftie Jul 2020 #24
These are documents from the Virginia Roberts Giuffre civil lawsuit FakeNoose Jul 2020 #25

CountAllVotes

(20,878 posts)
14. Yeah I wanna know!
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 12:57 AM
Jul 2020

Give us pandemic weary Americans something else to keep their eyes and ears on!

Gimme!

We are worried!

mahina

(17,711 posts)
3. So, if you know someone in those files is going to be outed, and that would be bad for them,
Tue Jul 28, 2020, 11:47 PM
Jul 2020

Are we down with this regardless if people are Dems or Republicans?

How likely is a bullshit addition? Joe won’t be in there. Bill Clinton may be. Trump almost certainly is, “Prince” Andrew too

Praying the slime balls don’t slime an innocent person.

Miguelito Loveless

(4,475 posts)
29. Anyone involved goes down
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 01:55 PM
Jul 2020

I don't care who.

Also, anyone stupid enough (looking at you Bill Clinton) to climb aboard an airplane named "The Lolita Express" deserves all the grief they receive.

bamagal62

(3,270 posts)
5. I'm down with whomever is implicated
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 12:05 AM
Jul 2020

In her tapes. I don’t give a rat who they are.
I want all of these scumbags exposed. It doesn’t matter who they are. If they abused minors, they should be exposed and in jail.

UpInArms

(51,285 posts)
6. Whoever is in this mess
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 12:08 AM
Jul 2020

Went there by their own volition ... excepting the minor children who were abused.

I do not care who is outed. They deserve whatever scorn and humiliation that comes from this.

If it is someone who I have held in high or moderate esteem, then, more shame on them for the deceit they have managed.

truthisfreedom

(23,159 posts)
7. Protect her fucking useless life you fucking assholes.
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 12:08 AM
Jul 2020

Keep her ALIVE.

What's the point of this exercise if we don't reveal the truth?

GeoWilliam750

(2,522 posts)
8. Let's see if I understand this correctly...
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 12:11 AM
Jul 2020

A woman who has been arrested for systematic child sexual abuse and trafficking, and who knows what else, would be more embarrassed about old photos and videos?

CountAllVotes

(20,878 posts)
10. Oh goody!!
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 12:21 AM
Jul 2020

Gee, the suspense is just killing me!

I bet the suspense is having the same affect on others on her inner circle!

Prince Andrew does have that sweating non-problem though.



 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
20. The worst that's going to happen to Andrew has already happened
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 05:47 AM
Jul 2020

Everyone knows he got together with Epstein's sex slave, a young woman that he'd groomed from the age of either 16 or 17 (there's some conflicting information on her age at the time she was 'recruited'). The girl was manipulated into ... ummm ... servicing people at Epsteins request for years, until she was well past 18.

She was no longer a minor at the time Andrew got with her. At least as far as anyone knows at this point.

Which means it 'looks bad' for him, but he's not in any legal danger. Strictly speaking there's not a law against what he did, esp. not one that applies to really rich people. There's also variability in ages of consent depending on where 'things happened', many places in the world 16 is 'legal age'.

I think there's probably a lot of other people who are a lot more concerned than Andrew is at this point. His reputation is already in the shitter.

EllieBC

(3,042 posts)
12. I don't care who is outed. I want them outed.
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 12:43 AM
Jul 2020

Doesn’t matter whose “side” they are on. You rape children, and that’s what it is let’s stop trying to pretend it’s not, your name deserves to be out there so people know.

TomVilmer

(1,832 posts)
26. Most victims are still unknown...
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 08:53 AM
Jul 2020

... and might not need to suddenly see their names and forced sex acts described in the tabloid papers.

rpannier

(24,340 posts)
18. They should be released
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 03:50 AM
Jul 2020

It will help to put to rest people who are not on them, but many in the public believe they are
If I were being accused by the public, I'd want them out so people know I'm not one of them

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,496 posts)
19. Shouldn't this information be audited.....
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 05:26 AM
Jul 2020

to insure minors and innocents are not exposed to the media and today's typical viral internet rage?

In this day and age, the mere drop of an innocent person's name can cause pure hell in their life just from that exposure.


KY......

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
21. Yeah TBH I'm not exactly sure I 'agree' with the idea of dumping Maxwell's private documents
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 05:53 AM
Jul 2020

into the public sphere willy-nilly. If we're talking about the prosecutors getting that information of course that's a whole different matter. Not quite sure what public interest is served by this, frankly.

It could also taint the jury pool in such a way that her Defense Attorneys can use it as leverage.

machI

(1,285 posts)
22. The files are probably for reasons of blackmail.
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 06:23 AM
Jul 2020

I have some concerns that powerful individuals in Government may also be seeking to gain an advantage from this blackmail material.

oldsoftie

(12,622 posts)
24. "Released" to who? The public? If they contain victims names, i disagree.
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 07:13 AM
Jul 2020

All that should be kept in the courts.
Unless any victims come forward and agree that anything regarding them is OK to release

FakeNoose

(32,791 posts)
25. These are documents from the Virginia Roberts Giuffre civil lawsuit
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 07:39 AM
Jul 2020

That suit was settled several years ago, and of course everything was settled privately with no admission of wrong-doing. The documents include Maxwell's testimony with details of her relationship/partnership with Jeffrey Epstein, which she only gave with the understanding that it would be kept private and off the record. So now nothing is "private" any more.

I don't think we'll see anything about Epstein's former friendship with Chump, since it wasn't part of this lawsuit. However there may be discussion about Prince Andrew because he was a friend/client of Epstein's who spent private time with Virginia Roberts Giuffre while she was underage. We shall see.



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