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left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 03:55 PM Jul 2020

Space Force unveils 'semper supra' motto, delta logo

Source: The Hill

The U.S. Space Force’s official motto will be “semper supra,” the Latin for “always above,” the military service announced Wednesday.

The Space Force also unveiled Wednesday its official logo, a silver delta symbol with the Polaris star in the center, spires at the top representing a rocket launch and beveled elements on the edges to symbolize jointness with the other military branches.

“We are building a new Service to secure the space domain... the ultimate high ground,” Chief of Space Operations Gen. John Raymond tweeted Wednesday. “Our strategic imperative is to ensure that our space capabilities & the advantages they provide the nation & our Joint and Coalition partners are always there. #SemperSupra!”

Last week, the service announced it had chosen the first 2,410 airmen who will transfer into the Space Force starting Sept. 1.

Read more: https://thehill.com/policy/defense/508559-space-force-unveils-semper-supra-motto-delta-logo



Officially, the Space Force only has 88 sworn-in members: Raymond, senior enlisted adviser Chief Master Sgt. Roger Towberman and 86 Air Force Academy graduates who commissioned directly into the Space Force upon graduation in April.

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Space Force unveils 'semper supra' motto, delta logo (Original Post) left-of-center2012 Jul 2020 OP
christ, the Pig has conned them all into creating a joke. Thomas Hurt Jul 2020 #1
Sit Optimum C_U_L8R Jul 2020 #2
I think these guys (see video) are way smarter than these guys... wcmagumba Jul 2020 #3
The Space Force logo is quite similar to the USAF Space Command logo Zorro Jul 2020 #4
Just adding useless branches that we, the taxpayers, will be expected to pay for. pazzyanne Jul 2020 #10
The Space Force organizations already existed Zorro Jul 2020 #14
I have no faith in this administration to accomplish this, just saying. pazzyanne Jul 2020 #17
+10 nt reACTIONary Jul 2020 #26
"No one could have foreseen..." dchill Jul 2020 #20
Space Cadets it will be. rickford66 Jul 2020 #5
I keep waiting for these clowns to break into laughter. Grokenstein Jul 2020 #6
I thought they unveiled their logo months ago. scarletwoman Jul 2020 #7
I think that was a flag? left-of-center2012 Jul 2020 #18
Nope, it was the official unveiling of the logo in January - see below: scarletwoman Jul 2020 #29
Nope. It only prohibits... reACTIONary Jul 2020 #27
Thank you for finding that! It appears to me that it also prohibits any orbiting weapons platforms: scarletwoman Jul 2020 #30
Good question! Don't know, the treaty... reACTIONary Jul 2020 #33
I think maybe the treaty needs to updated for the cyber age. Hypothetically, shouldn't an orbiting scarletwoman Jul 2020 #36
Bingo! This is why we have a... reACTIONary Jul 2020 #41
I was hoping for "By Grabthar's Hammer, You Shall Be Avenged" muriel_volestrangler Jul 2020 #8
I was hoping for "to boldly go where no man has gone before." NT mahatmakanejeeves Jul 2020 #13
Don't even bother to move in to your new offices...you won't be there long enough to warm the seat pecosbob Jul 2020 #9
Steve Carell is so funny in that show... NurseJackie Jul 2020 #11
Always Toyota???? whistler162 Jul 2020 #12
Super Duper. louis-t Jul 2020 #15
"Always on Top"? N/T Foolacious Jul 2020 #16
I thought the Space Force was supposed to be a new branch, not part of the Air Force. N/t howardmappel Jul 2020 #19
It's like the Marines ... left-of-center2012 Jul 2020 #21
USSF is to the USAF Sgent Jul 2020 #22
Space has become extremely important ... reACTIONary Jul 2020 #28
More like Space Farce. cstanleytech Jul 2020 #23
Eager Young Space Cadet reporting. . . DinahMoeHum Jul 2020 #24
When do they debut the camo design? NellieStarbuck Jul 2020 #25
Here you go: scarletwoman Jul 2020 #31
Almost the same as Trump's motto...semper supra legem. nt hay rick Jul 2020 #32
"Space Force" - the second federal agency Biden needs to dissolve on Day One hatrack Jul 2020 #34
Neither will happen Zorro Jul 2020 #35
He can't by executive order Polybius Jul 2020 #38
Well, a few extra tasks for Nancy and Chuck then . . . hatrack Jul 2020 #39
Lol yup Polybius Jul 2020 #40
We can have a Space Farce wasting our taxpayer dollars, area51 Jul 2020 #37

Zorro

(15,740 posts)
4. The Space Force logo is quite similar to the USAF Space Command logo
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 04:03 PM
Jul 2020

Space Command has been around for about 40 years now.

pazzyanne

(6,556 posts)
10. Just adding useless branches that we, the taxpayers, will be expected to pay for.
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 04:28 PM
Jul 2020

I've always heard that the Republicans are anti-big government. We just keep adding more and more useless crap. Time to clean up the mess. Let's start with fumigating the White House and carry on from there.

Zorro

(15,740 posts)
14. The Space Force organizations already existed
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 04:39 PM
Jul 2020

The creation of this branch is basically a restructuring effort to consolidate space-related military functions under one command.

There are pros and cons to this merging of disparate space organizations from internal AF and other service branches, but it should lead to streamlining coordination between different military programs.

Grokenstein

(5,723 posts)
6. I keep waiting for these clowns to break into laughter.
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 04:03 PM
Jul 2020

"You...you didn't take us seriously, did you? ...You DID! You did take us seriously! Oh my god! You're a fucking idiot!"

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
7. I thought they unveiled their logo months ago.
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 04:06 PM
Jul 2020

Is this a new new logo?

Anyway, fuck the space force. Not that trump cares, but I thought the U.S. was party to an international treaty that pledges only peaceful utilization of space.

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
29. Nope, it was the official unveiling of the logo in January - see below:
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 08:54 PM
Jul 2020
Trump Unveils New Space Force Logo, Inciting 'Star Trek' Fan Outrage

January 24, 2020


In the voyage to the final frontier there is a wave of ridicule being directed toward President Trump who unveiled the U.S. Space Force logo on Friday afternoon. (January 17, 2020)

"After consultation with our Great Military Leaders, designers and others, I am pleased to present the new logo for the United States Space Force, the Sixth Branch of our Magnificent Military!" Trump tweeted.

Welp, it appears as though many of those great leaders "and others" were likely — even if subconsciously — influenced by Star Trek because the design of its signature image is nearly identical.

"THIS IS THE STARFLEET LOGO!" The New York Times reporter Sopan Deb was quick to text-shout on Twitter.

"THE U.S. GOVERNMENT TOOK A THING FROM A TV SHOW AND MADE IT THE OFFICIAL EMBLEM OF A BRANCH OF THE MILITARY," he continued.

To many critics it seems highly illogical that the similarities to the iconic patch from the beloved television program were not somehow ... modified. That the administration has approved and boldly gone where 1960s television art designers went decades ago is absolutely baffling.


reACTIONary

(5,770 posts)
27. Nope. It only prohibits...
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 08:35 PM
Jul 2020

.... nuclear weapons and "military moon bases".

The substance of the arms control provisions is in Article IV. This article restricts activities in two ways:

First, it contains an undertaking not to place in orbit around the Earth, install on the moon or any other celestial body, or otherwise station in outer space, nuclear or any other weapons of mass destruction.

Second, it limits the use of the moon and other celestial bodies exclusively to peaceful purposes and expressly prohibits their use for establishing military bases, installation, or fortifications; testing weapons of any kind; or conducting military maneuvers.

https://2009-2017.state.gov/t/isn/5181.htm


Space is now considered a contested region. That's why the Space Force was created.

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
30. Thank you for finding that! It appears to me that it also prohibits any orbiting weapons platforms:
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 09:01 PM
Jul 2020
First, it contains an undertaking not to place in orbit around the Earth, install on the moon or any other celestial body, or otherwise station in outer space, nuclear or any other weapons of mass destruction.


My question would be - what constitutes a "weapon of mass destruction" when it's being deployed from orbit?

reACTIONary

(5,770 posts)
33. Good question! Don't know, the treaty...
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 09:34 PM
Jul 2020

... does not define the term. The term is defined by one source as

A weapon of mass destruction is a nuclear, radiological, chemical, biological, or other device that is intended to harm a large number of people.

https://www.dhs.gov/topic/weapons-mass-destruction


Here is an interesting article in the Wikipedia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weapon_of_mass_destruction

Apparently the term has been used for quite some time and first referred to massive areal bombardment.

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
36. I think maybe the treaty needs to updated for the cyber age. Hypothetically, shouldn't an orbiting
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 10:00 PM
Jul 2020

weapons platform capable of shooting down another country's communication satellites be considered a type of "mass destruction" - due to how much damage it could cause to that country's infrastructure?

reACTIONary

(5,770 posts)
41. Bingo! This is why we have a...
Thu Jul 23, 2020, 01:09 PM
Jul 2020

... space force. Early on, space was an uncontested region. Like Antarctica. Our military, and other nations militaries, placed assets in space and have become very dependent on them. This includes communications, situational awareness and GPS.

Now there are efforts by our adversaries to develop the capability to "take out" these assets. Doing so at the right place and time would be a crippling blow to a military operation. Space is now a contested region. That is why the space force has been created.

pecosbob

(7,541 posts)
9. Don't even bother to move in to your new offices...you won't be there long enough to warm the seat
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 04:27 PM
Jul 2020

This travesty will not survive even one year of the new administration.

Sgent

(5,857 posts)
22. USSF is to the USAF
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 05:23 PM
Jul 2020

as USMC is to the Navy.

The idea (from people other than Trump) is that USAF command space missions and personnel got shortchanged by fighter jockey's when it came to promotion, funding, etc. IDK if it was true, but that's what some senators thought.

In reality, I think cyber, both offensive and defensive, is more important than space for the foreseeable future. It faces a different set of challenges though since good cyber people have to be paid outside the military chain of command, and then you wind up with defense contractors which suck.

reACTIONary

(5,770 posts)
28. Space has become extremely important ...
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 08:48 PM
Jul 2020

... to military operations and weapons systems. Almost all communications systems have a space component, space is very important for situational awareness, and then there is GPS.

Space has become a contested region, so our space assets have become very vulnerable. The "high ground of space" makes you an easy target.

hatrack

(59,587 posts)
34. "Space Force" - the second federal agency Biden needs to dissolve on Day One
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 09:40 PM
Jul 2020

The first, of course, is DHS.

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