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brooklynite

(94,727 posts)
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 04:26 PM Jul 2020

Esper concerned over federal agents dressed like military troops in U.S. cities

Source: Politico

Defense Secretary Mark Esper has raised concerns within the administration about federal agents patrolling the streets of U.S. cities in camouflage uniforms similar to those worn by troops in war zones, his spokesperson said Tuesday.

After nationwide protests over racial injustice and police violence erupted in June, Esper expressed concern that in some cases, federal law enforcement officers were being confused with troops because of their similar uniforms, said Jonathan Hoffman, chief Pentagon spokesperson. Esper urged efforts to more clearly distinguish between the two, Hoffman said.

"We saw this take place back in June when there were some law enforcement that wear uniforms that make them appear military in appearance," Hoffman said. Esper has told administration officials that "we want a system where people can tell the difference."

Esper may be looking to have a conversation with Attorney General William Barr, acting Secretary of Homeland Security Chad Wolf and their teams about the issue in the near future, Hoffman said, but did not specify a timeline.



Read more: https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/21/esper-federal-agents-military-protests-376381

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Esper concerned over federal agents dressed like military troops in U.S. cities (Original Post) brooklynite Jul 2020 OP
oh no! another concerned Republican! Thomas Hurt Jul 2020 #1
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2020 #2
Damn! leftieNanner Jul 2020 #4
I was going to call him NewJeffCT Jul 2020 #8
chuckle. good one. riversedge Jul 2020 #20
He must have had lunch with Susan Collins leftieNanner Jul 2020 #3
Well, I think Esper's concerned... regnaD kciN Jul 2020 #24
Oh? irisblue Jul 2020 #5
Esper, do something about it! C_U_L8R Jul 2020 #6
remember that your future reputation... dhill926 Jul 2020 #7
Trump Is Trying to Avoid The Insurrection Act... TomCADem Jul 2020 #9
Congress has some level of oversight of DHS. Dems control the House IronLionZion Jul 2020 #10
yeah its a little late and a repug ploy, when things get hot throw a concern bone. nt yaesu Jul 2020 #11
He's not concerned about what they're doing, just that it may reflect badly on his department ... mr_lebowski Jul 2020 #12
Womp! PandoraAwakened Jul 2020 #22
Oh, noez. He's "Concerned" relayerbob Jul 2020 #13
Shouldn't there be a law against impersonating members of the US military? Lonestarblue Jul 2020 #14
He must have quite the crush on Susan! Get a room you two! Lucky Luciano Jul 2020 #15
He wore a military uniform when they gassed Lafayette Square ArizonaLib Jul 2020 #16
Retired three-star general: "This secret police bullshit" (uniforms) keithbvadu2 Jul 2020 #17
Then DO something about it, Esper! nt SunSeeker Jul 2020 #18
No professionalism, training, identity or accountability, only personal loyalty. Marcuse Jul 2020 #19
Fainting couch with Collins. kairos12 Jul 2020 #21
Big whoop. Talk is cheap. (nt) scarletwoman Jul 2020 #23

Response to Thomas Hurt (Reply #1)

regnaD kciN

(26,045 posts)
24. Well, I think Esper's concerned...
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 09:22 PM
Jul 2020

...because he sees the hit his reputation is taking from his time in this administration.

Remember, Esper also publicly disassociated himself from Trump's clearing peaceful protesters for his church photo-op.

C_U_L8R

(45,020 posts)
6. Esper, do something about it!
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 04:33 PM
Jul 2020

American cities are besieged by a rogue paramilitary. What does our own military do to defend our communities?

TomCADem

(17,390 posts)
9. Trump Is Trying to Avoid The Insurrection Act...
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 04:51 PM
Jul 2020

...by arguing that the federal.agents are not military even though they look like the military. Of course, taken to its extreme, a President could just field a personal militia that is not subject to the rules limiting the use of military forces domestically.

IronLionZion

(45,528 posts)
10. Congress has some level of oversight of DHS. Dems control the House
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 04:52 PM
Jul 2020
https://homeland.house.gov/

Maybe some funding cuts are in order, especially earmarks for military style equipment.
 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
12. He's not concerned about what they're doing, just that it may reflect badly on his department ...
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 04:56 PM
Jul 2020

In case that wasn't clear ...

Lonestarblue

(10,064 posts)
14. Shouldn't there be a law against impersonating members of the US military?
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 05:07 PM
Jul 2020

I know many people wear camouflage clothes, but they aren’t taking part in police actions without warrants or arresting people without probable cause. Trump’s secret police are deliberately trying to fool people into believing that they are US military.

ArizonaLib

(1,242 posts)
16. He wore a military uniform when they gassed Lafayette Square
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 05:20 PM
Jul 2020

He has no moral capacity to discuss this. Is he just jealous of the ICE holes?

I think the only uniform this administration will arrive to concensus is a white robe and white hood. Tiki torches optional.

keithbvadu2

(36,906 posts)
17. Retired three-star general: "This secret police bullshit" (uniforms)
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 05:37 PM
Jul 2020
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213769890

Retired three-star general: "This secret police bullshit"

"Make a note, We need to forbid police and federal agents from using military uniforms . "
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