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groundloop

(11,523 posts)
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 06:47 PM Jul 2020

Justice Department releases Stone clemency grant after inquiry from judge

Last edited Mon Jul 13, 2020, 07:24 PM - Edit history (1)

Source: ABC News

The Justice Department on Monday made public the official order from President Donald Trump granting clemency to his longtime adviser and friend Roger Stone after a federal judge who oversaw Stone's criminal case raised questions about the the scope of the president's controversial action.

In an order Monday, D.C. District Judge Amy Berman Jackson called for the Trump administration to provide her with a copy of Trump's executive order granting Stone clemency, and "whether it involves the sentence of incarceration alone or also the period of supervised release."

Jackson said her order followed questions that were specifically raised by the U.S. Probation Office, and ordered the government to submit the order by Tuesday -- when Stone was originally set to begin his 40-month prison sentence at a federal corrections institution in Alabama.

But Scott Anderson, a fellow in Governance Studies at the Brookings Institution, argued that any attempts to impose limits on the president's constitutional pardon power could prove fruitless.






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Justice Department releases Stone clemency grant after inquiry from judge (Original Post) groundloop Jul 2020 OP
What was to stop the DOJ from ginning up a version that covers that issue. Thomas Hurt Jul 2020 #1
Absolutely nothing. groundloop Jul 2020 #3
This is fucking criminal. liberalmuse Jul 2020 #2
was the ink still wet ? dweller Jul 2020 #4
Not dated? - NVM, 2nd page. Xipe Totec Jul 2020 #5
Edited original post to include page 2. (OOPS) groundloop Jul 2020 #9
Why the Hell can't they use the modern spelling of "diverse" ? eppur_se_muova Jul 2020 #6
So that's not a typo Rural_Progressive Jul 2020 #7
Evidently, it's not actually the same word, to my surprise. eppur_se_muova Jul 2020 #8
diverse means various. I think they are the same word. nt reACTIONary Jul 2020 #16
The sharpie C_U_L8R Jul 2020 #10
If Bill Barr knows that Trump acting to protect himself, he is required NCjack Jul 2020 #11
What's with the Sharpie pen? Does he not use anything other than a Sharpie? ... aggiesal Jul 2020 #12
Little fingers need big crayons Maeve Jul 2020 #14
He wants to make sure BlueIdaho Jul 2020 #15
I read today bucolic_frolic Jul 2020 #13
Trump's "signature" resembles the pattern a seismograph creates during an earthquake. Nitram Jul 2020 #17

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
11. If Bill Barr knows that Trump acting to protect himself, he is required
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 07:36 PM
Jul 2020

to charge him. If Jerry Nadler establishes this, the House should proceed to impeach Barr and Trump.

aggiesal

(8,924 posts)
12. What's with the Sharpie pen? Does he not use anything other than a Sharpie? ...
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 07:40 PM
Jul 2020

Even the month and date are written with a Sharpie!

Also, when this pResidency is completed, there has to be changes made to the clemency and pardons by any President.

Any current sitting President should NOT be allowed to grant clemency or a pardon, to anyone guilty of committing a crime that benefits the current sitting President.
In this case; "Lie for me and I'll set you free!"

This basically opens the door to Presidential corruption until that door is closed
(i.e. change clemency and pardons).


bucolic_frolic

(43,295 posts)
13. I read today
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 08:12 PM
Jul 2020

that Barr advised against commuting the sentence.

Constitutional pardon power? Pardoning a co-conspirator is equivalent to pardoning oneself. Several articles made that point today.

And saying "look at me! I didn't talk, so pardon me!" is .............. obstruction? Quid pro quo?

In my neighborhood it'd probably be called a shakedown.

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