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azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 06:45 PM Oct 2012

US warns European governments against supporting Palestinians at UN

Source: The Guardian

The United States has warned European governments against supporting a Palestinian bid for enhanced status at the United Nations, saying such a move "would be extremely counterproductive" and threatening "significant negative consequences" for the Palestinian Authority, including financial sanctions.

A US memorandum, seen by the Guardian, said Palestinian statehood "can only be achieved via direct negotiations with the Israelis" and urged European governments "to support [American] efforts" to block the bid. The message was communicated by officials to representatives of European governments at the UN general assembly (UNGA) in New York last week.

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The memorandum – described by one diplomatic source as "private correspondence" – said the US was continuing to work for a two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, and urged both parties "to avoid provocative one-sided actions that could undermine trust or otherwise distract from the pursuit of peace".

A Palestinian resolution on non-member state status "would have significant negative consequences, for the peace process itself, for the UN system, as well as our ability to maintain our significant financial support for the Palestinian Authority".




Read more: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/oct/01/us-warns-europe-palestinians-un

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US warns European governments against supporting Palestinians at UN (Original Post) azurnoir Oct 2012 OP
Thhis is why we are hated in the middle east. JRLeft Oct 2012 #1
We have been pulling this crap on the rest of the world for far too long Stewland Oct 2012 #2
If the Euros agree with the US fine, but they have the right to their own decisions bloomington-lib Oct 2012 #3
Freedom isn't granted, it's only taken away cpwm17 Oct 2012 #4
Nice to see fingrinn Oct 2012 #5
So, where's the homeland for the Palestinians? rachel1 Oct 2012 #6
''Counter-productive''??? DeSwiss Oct 2012 #7
IMO conundrum is more like it azurnoir Oct 2012 #11
I know there's certainly a riddle..... DeSwiss Oct 2012 #12
ah he is indeed a man of hope azurnoir Oct 2012 #14
Hahaha!! DeSwiss Oct 2012 #16
It's not Israel telling the EU what to do ... mallard Oct 2012 #8
Israel tells the US what to do ? nt King_David Oct 2012 #10
A jury voted 3-3 to keep this disgusting anti-Semitic post? Odin2005 Oct 2012 #20
Good for the jury. Should have been 6 - 0. byeya Oct 2012 #23
Implying the US is an Israeli lapdog leftynyc Oct 2012 #24
I hope they tell whoever to STFU. L0oniX Oct 2012 #9
LOL, what "peace process"? Is there anyone who still believes that crap? harun Oct 2012 #13
or is there even hope for such a thing as a peace process... defacto7 Oct 2012 #15
I see no interest from the Israeli's or Americans in a peace process. harun Oct 2012 #18
it matters not which party is in control Stewland Oct 2012 #19
Yeah, like the status quo is soooooo "productive". nt bemildred Oct 2012 #17
I wish Europe would tell us to stick it & disband NATO. The cold war is over. Vidar Oct 2012 #21
I'll second that: Disband NATO. Declare victory if you want but the world byeya Oct 2012 #22
 

Stewland

(163 posts)
2. We have been pulling this crap on the rest of the world for far too long
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 06:51 PM
Oct 2012

This attitude that we are the only ones with the ability to broker in this situation is just crap. This situation has not improved but has deteriorated over time. Might be a good idea to shine a little light as to why it has stayed the same all these years. Until we can be fair to all sides we best stay out.

bloomington-lib

(946 posts)
3. If the Euros agree with the US fine, but they have the right to their own decisions
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 08:09 PM
Oct 2012

about who they will support.

As I see it, nothing has worked so far. The Palestinians land and rights are not moving in a direction favorable to them. The longer this situation remains the same, the more they lose.

 

cpwm17

(3,829 posts)
4. Freedom isn't granted, it's only taken away
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 08:14 PM
Oct 2012

Forcing the Palestinians to negotiate for their freedom is a sickening to watch. It's also against international law. The US always makes sure the Palestinians remain enslaved.

The only thing that needs negotiated is their reparations.

 

fingrinn

(81 posts)
5. Nice to see
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 08:40 PM
Oct 2012

American bully tactics at play again.
If you want freedom, negotiate with your captor, please point me to an example where that has worked.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
11. IMO conundrum is more like it
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 10:16 PM
Oct 2012

you see last year when Congress saw fit to cut off the Palestinians due to their UN bid then, part of that money was re-instated at Israel's request, because there is a good deal of coordination between Israeli security and PA security in the West Bank, so much that Israel went to the IMF on the PA's behalf to attempt to gain more funding for them

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
12. I know there's certainly a riddle.....
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 10:29 PM
Oct 2012

...between these two peoples. What I can't figure out is: What is the pun?

- Whatever the question is, [font size=4]LOVE[/font] is the only answer.......

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
14. ah he is indeed a man of hope
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 11:45 PM
Oct 2012

after all he is wearing a Minnesota Timberwolves T-shirt
but by conundrum I meant definition B "an intricate and difficult problem" as it seems to be just that

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
16. Hahaha!!
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 12:03 AM
Oct 2012

I didn't even notice that Timberwolves shirt! As for the intractability of the problems there, I think that if the people of the two countries were deciding things, the issue could be over in a heartbeat.

mallard

(569 posts)
8. It's not Israel telling the EU what to do ...
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 09:14 PM
Oct 2012

It's Israel & Co telling the US what to tell the EU to do. It looks better and has a much stronger impact.

We are being manipulated and controlled by the same extreme zionist 'elements' that have brought us into this post-9/11 era. Questioning their right to carry on as such is tantamount to being excluded from further participation.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
24. Implying the US is an Israeli lapdog
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 02:37 PM
Oct 2012

and we only do the "Zionist" bidding? An old anti-semitic dog whistle. But par for the course here so carry on.

harun

(11,348 posts)
18. I see no interest from the Israeli's or Americans in a peace process.
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 03:33 PM
Oct 2012

They hold all the cards so the answer to your questions is no, no hope for such a thing.

 

Stewland

(163 posts)
19. it matters not which party is in control
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 11:11 PM
Oct 2012

All Presidents and elected officials in the United States are scared of the Zionist power that carries great influence . One has only to,look around and see how the discussion over Palestine is framed by A media that favors a Zionist perspective. Sure one can find sympathetic views toward Palestinians in the minimized leftist press. Some will say I am biased ,however one just needs to observe who gets the last word and its not the Palestinians. If they had an equal voice we would be hearing repeatedly about the genocide of Palestinians, the theft of the Paestinian homeland by Zionist colonialists. We rarely hear about the suffering of the Palestinians. And for that matter we rarely hear about the genocides visited upon so many other ethnic groups such as the Armenians,Bosnians ect. We are reminded of the sufferings of Jewish people almost on a daily bases. If the Armenians held any sway over media we would hear about the Turks murderous attacks upon them but few people know of it.

 

byeya

(2,842 posts)
22. I'll second that: Disband NATO. Declare victory if you want but the world
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 02:24 PM
Oct 2012

doesn't need NATO anymore.

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