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Mrs. Overall

(6,839 posts)
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 04:12 PM Jun 2020

Russia Secretly Offered Afghan Militants Bounties to Kill U.S. Troops, Intelligence Says

Source: New York Times

American intelligence officials have concluded that a Russian military intelligence unit secretly offered bounties to Taliban-linked militants for killing coalition forces in Afghanistan — including targeting American troops — amid the peace talks to end the long-running war there, according to officials briefed on the matter.

The United States concluded months ago that the Russian unit, which has been linked to assassination attempts and other covert operations in Europe intended to destabilize the West or take revenge on turncoats, had covertly offered rewards for successful attacks last year.

Islamist militants, or armed criminal elements closely associated with them, are believed to have collected some bounty money, the officials said. Twenty Americans were killed in combat in Afghanistan in 2019, but it was not clear which killings were under suspicion.

The intelligence finding was briefed to President Trump, and the White House’s National Security Council discussed the problem at an interagency meeting in late March, the officials said. Officials developed a menu of potential options — starting with making a diplomatic complaint to Moscow and a demand that it stop, along with an escalating series of sanctions and other possible responses, but the White House has yet to authorize any step, the officials said.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/26/us/politics/russia-afghanistan-bounties.html?referringSource=articleShare



Read the fourth paragraph: "...but the White House has yet to authorize any step, the officials said."
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Russia Secretly Offered Afghan Militants Bounties to Kill U.S. Troops, Intelligence Says (Original Post) Mrs. Overall Jun 2020 OP
No surprise since that is essentially what we did to them when Russia invaded Afghanistan still_one Jun 2020 #1
Yeah, but... Cirque du So-What Jun 2020 #5
Sure, but I am sure they are still motivated by what happened still_one Jun 2020 #7
You know Orange Foolius is aware of this Cirque du So-What Jun 2020 #11
I know. As far as I am concerned trump is a traitor still_one Jun 2020 #26
I'd be surprised if Reagan and the USSR wasn't playing footsie, just like with Iran erronis Jun 2020 #19
But What About Trump's Bromance? Didn't Trump Sell... TomCADem Jun 2020 #42
has trump called this fake news yet? barbtries Jun 2020 #2
Maybe this is why he is quieter today? kimbutgar Jun 2020 #3
So, so shocking Leghorn21 Jun 2020 #4
If members of our military don't abandon the traitor Dump now, they are fucking nuts. fleur-de-lisa Jun 2020 #6
Not surprised...... paleotn Jun 2020 #8
The soviets have been active since WW-II (and before). The US IC was a lot more dilligent back then erronis Jun 2020 #20
I think... Mike Nelson Jun 2020 #9
Russia has been killing American troops for decades. pwb Jun 2020 #10
+1... IthinkThereforeIAM Jun 2020 #22
Proxy wars are nothing new, and no post-industrial superpower is innocent. LanternWaste Jun 2020 #41
Isn't this an act of war? Thomas Hurt Jun 2020 #12
I'd need real hard proof on this. Magoo48 Jun 2020 #13
This is sort of sarisataka Jun 2020 #14
This is disturbing news. I wonder if VOA will report this out. Baked Potato Jun 2020 #15
VOA is now a voice for the turd. They won't say shit. not_the_one Jun 2020 #37
Yes, I forgot the sarcasm thingy. Baked Potato Jun 2020 #43
Kick dalton99a Jun 2020 #16
Surely not Vladdy. mahina Jun 2020 #17
Queue the Lincoln Projects next ad... nt List left Jun 2020 #18
This needs to be hammered home relentlessly in campaign ads steve2470 Jun 2020 #21
We helped the Afghans when Russia invaded, marie999 Jun 2020 #23
But Trump loves him some Putin Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2020 #24
K&R ck4829 Jun 2020 #25
Sure, invite him to join the G7, why not. BigmanPigman Jun 2020 #27
Rick Wilson: Miles Archer Jun 2020 #33
Nothing short of treason. ffr Jun 2020 #28
This needs to be at the top of DU ** MRDAWG Jun 2020 #29
drumpf didn't respond to Russian IS members paying bounties to terrorists for murder Linda Ed Jun 2020 #30
Military Coup, anyone? Alex4Martinez Jun 2020 #31
Kick dalton99a Jun 2020 #32
11-8-2019: Trump calls off secret Camp David meeting with Taliban, Afghan leaders greyl Jun 2020 #34
Donald don't care, invited them to the G7 because they helped Trumpfirst get the gig. usregimechange Jun 2020 #35
Don't forget the newer republican meme; 'Russia is our friend.' keithbvadu2 Jun 2020 #36
That was just more joking from the Russians. Progressive dog Jun 2020 #38
Blow up the Russia to Germany gas pipeline, build U.S. bases in Poland and Hungary, that'll teach em Baclava Jun 2020 #39
Trump is fucked - and finished politically, ElementaryPenguin Jun 2020 #40
Kick to the pants of a traitor. Kid Berwyn Jun 2020 #44

Cirque du So-What

(25,989 posts)
11. You know Orange Foolius is aware of this
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 04:25 PM
Jun 2020

but he will utter nary a peep in protest. I hope the armed forces see who has their back...and who doesn’t.

erronis

(15,371 posts)
19. I'd be surprised if Reagan and the USSR wasn't playing footsie, just like with Iran
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 04:59 PM
Jun 2020

What the world's citizens see as black-and-white conflict between someone's good and someone else's evil is almost never what is real.

What has perhaps changed is the brazen openness of the influence peddling. Maybe the media and open-source tools have exposed more of the normal hanky-panky.

Maybe the current USSR is feeling its oats because we have such a lame horse in the stable right now.

But self-dealing by people in power has been going on since we were swinging from the branches. And will continue until we become a nice community of social insects.

TomCADem

(17,390 posts)
42. But What About Trump's Bromance? Didn't Trump Sell...
Sat Jun 27, 2020, 12:34 PM
Jun 2020

...the benefit of cozying up to Russia and not moving in lockstep with NATO. Why would Putin do Trump dirty?

kimbutgar

(21,215 posts)
3. Maybe this is why he is quieter today?
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 04:16 PM
Jun 2020

But of course his cult members won’t hear about it or will care because their savior is making America great!

This is some treasonous shit.

fleur-de-lisa

(14,628 posts)
6. If members of our military don't abandon the traitor Dump now, they are fucking nuts.
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 04:19 PM
Jun 2020

Dumpus won't do a damn thing to piss off Daddy Vladdy.

paleotn

(17,989 posts)
8. Not surprised......
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 04:21 PM
Jun 2020

What does surprise me is the Russians weren't actively involved earlier on....that we know of anyway. Afghanistan is a real sore spot for the Russians.

erronis

(15,371 posts)
20. The soviets have been active since WW-II (and before). The US IC was a lot more dilligent back then
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 05:12 PM
Jun 2020

but we also had plenty of spies and double-agents.

Probably after Kennedy, the USSR (alias Russia), understood that it needed to take over part of the US political operations. They may have targeted Democrats or Repuglicans (probably both) and definitely looked for third-party opportunities.

The Dulles brothers at State and CIA approved operations against other democracies in the name of corporate interests.

Nixon showed that corruption and lying was a good way to get a foot-hold. Blackmail is extremely powerful, especially against ethically-challenged politicians.

Reagan, GWHB (ex-CIA director), and W continued the war-mongering in the interests of the large corporations profits.

Not that I think the Democrats are blameless. Just against this backdrop they seem like rank amateurs at profiting from the spoils.

pwb

(11,292 posts)
10. Russia has been killing American troops for decades.
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 04:23 PM
Jun 2020

Supplying our enemies with AK-47s, shoulder fired rockets, mines, grenades, mortars, you name it. Nam, Iraq, Afghanistan, all used Russian weapons to kill Americans. Trumps buddies.

IthinkThereforeIAM

(3,077 posts)
22. +1...
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 05:49 PM
Jun 2020

... yep, thanks for filling in the blanks for many of those of us who have not followed this since the late 70's.

Magoo48

(4,721 posts)
13. I'd need real hard proof on this.
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 04:37 PM
Jun 2020

It’s just the kind of horseshit intelligence Agent Orange would leak hisownself.
More chaos is right up his alley.

 

not_the_one

(2,227 posts)
37. VOA is now a voice for the turd. They won't say shit.
Sat Jun 27, 2020, 12:25 AM
Jun 2020

As are ALL of our governmental radio voices of freedom.

Haven't you been keeping up with his latest replacing of the heads of ALL those entities? He thinks he is going to have his own propaganda network.

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
21. This needs to be hammered home relentlessly in campaign ads
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 05:23 PM
Jun 2020

Even Trump's base might not like this...but I can always be shocked by the level of their delusion.

 

marie999

(3,334 posts)
23. We helped the Afghans when Russia invaded,
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 05:55 PM
Jun 2020

the Russians are helping them when we invaded. Besides, if we don't have these wars, what happens to our war economy? How are munitions companies going to make all that money if we don't use our weapons? How are we going to develop better weapons to kill people? Aren't you willing to die for the economy?

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
33. Rick Wilson:
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 11:18 PM
Jun 2020
Rick Wilson
@TheRickWilson
"Hey, Mr. President, Russia is paying the Taliban a bounty to kill American soliders."

TRUMP: "Let's put Russia back in the G8."
7:33 PM · Jun 26, 2020·TweetDeck


ffr

(22,672 posts)
28. Nothing short of treason.
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 09:37 PM
Jun 2020

You cannot stand by and let an adversary kill you soldiers while they're giving you advice on how to oppress your citizens and not take action against them.

Linda Ed

(493 posts)
30. drumpf didn't respond to Russian IS members paying bounties to terrorists for murder
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 10:12 PM
Jun 2020

It’s way past time for US Troops to march him out of the White House as a domestic enemy of the people. If he does not resign in the next 2-3 days I’m all for it. This deadly farce has gone on long enough.

Despite the fact that Putin put a bounty on American troops heads, trump IGNORED the act of war and called Putin and invited him personally to the G-7 Summit???

The integrity of America's November election is at stake..

Alex4Martinez

(2,198 posts)
31. Military Coup, anyone?
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 10:39 PM
Jun 2020

You lose your generals, your joint chiefs, and now your soldiers.

Time to hit the bunker, Adolf.

greyl

(22,990 posts)
34. 11-8-2019: Trump calls off secret Camp David meeting with Taliban, Afghan leaders
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 11:33 PM
Jun 2020
WASHINGTON — President Donald Trump said Saturday he canceled a secret weekend meeting at Camp David with Taliban and Afghanistan leaders after a bombing in the past week in Kabul that killed 12 people, including an American soldier, and has called off peace negotiations with the insurgent group.

Trump’s tweet was surprising because it would mean that the president was ready to host members of the Taliban at the presidential retreat in Maryland just days before the anniversary of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. More than 2,400 U.S. troops have been killed since the U.S. invaded Afghanistan to go after the Taliban, which were harboring al-Qaida leaders responsible for 9/11.

Canceling the talks also goes against Trump’s pledge to withdraw the remaining 13,000 to 14,000 U.S. troops from Afghanistan and close U.S. involvement in the conflict that is closing in on 18 years.

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2019/09/08/trump-calls-off-secret-camp-david-meeting-with-taliban-afghan-leaders/


More: https://www.axios.com/pompeo-defends-taliban-camp-david-peace-talks-8e1ac0ae-9587-417a-8b6f-ecc772ffc5c0.html

keithbvadu2

(36,949 posts)
36. Don't forget the newer republican meme; 'Russia is our friend.'
Sat Jun 27, 2020, 12:16 AM
Jun 2020

Don't forget the newer republican meme; 'Russia is our friend.'

Progressive dog

(6,921 posts)
38. That was just more joking from the Russians.
Sat Jun 27, 2020, 10:01 AM
Jun 2020

Trump learned how to kid from Putin, but he's too mentally incompetent to remember that he was just kidding.

 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
39. Blow up the Russia to Germany gas pipeline, build U.S. bases in Poland and Hungary, that'll teach em
Sat Jun 27, 2020, 11:53 AM
Jun 2020

ElementaryPenguin

(7,800 posts)
40. Trump is fucked - and finished politically,
Sat Jun 27, 2020, 12:05 PM
Jun 2020

No way to defend this - not for anyone in the GOP - or even FAUX News.

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