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Roc2020

(1,616 posts)
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 12:53 PM Jun 2020

Confidence in Travel Slides With Less Than Half Willing to Fly

Source: Bloomberg

People are less willing to fly now than they were at the height of the coronavirus lockdown, according to research carried out for the airline industry’s main trade group.

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/news/confidence-in-travel-slides-with-less-than-half-willing-to-fly/ar-BB15zavJ



The flying public is more concerned now than during the height of the lockdown. Extremely bad news for airlines and also states that rely on tourism as a hefty part of their growth. Unemployment numbers will be ugly for a long time.
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Confidence in Travel Slides With Less Than Half Willing to Fly (Original Post) Roc2020 Jun 2020 OP
"slides"?? Miguelito Loveless Jun 2020 #1
the plummet happened during lockdown Roc2020 Jun 2020 #2
My hotel has not called me yet, so they have not been getting the reservations. Middle of tourist LizBeth Jun 2020 #3
Who doesn't want to sit in a pressurized germ tube with 100 other people for 3 hours? Dave Starsky Jun 2020 #4
With plenty of air circulation Cirque du So-What Jun 2020 #8
I've gotten sick every time I've flown in recent years. lagomorph777 Jun 2020 #14
I guess I'm in an information bubble moreland01 Jun 2020 #5
That's an excellent point Roc2020 Jun 2020 #10
There's a perception customerserviceguy Jun 2020 #12
Why take the risk?...the mods to planes that airlines are proposing aren't nearly enough dutch777 Jun 2020 #6
I've taken 6 flights in the past month Zorro Jun 2020 #7
I flew to Atlanta on United a week ago agingdem Jun 2020 #9
Please check back in 3 weeks. lagomorph777 Jun 2020 #15
I can only do so much to stay safe.. agingdem Jun 2020 #22
Please do. We need you to vote in November! lagomorph777 Jun 2020 #23
Already did.. agingdem Jun 2020 #24
Please let us know whether you've escaped the virus (in about 3 weeks). lagomorph777 Jun 2020 #16
So far so good Zorro Jun 2020 #19
All that flying must have been a nightmare. Best wishes for your health. lagomorph777 Jun 2020 #20
Thanks. Zorro Jun 2020 #21
you got that right Skittles Jun 2020 #31
there's less flights pstokely Jun 2020 #17
could you tell us what percentage of the passengers were masked Skittles Jun 2020 #28
All the passengers wore masks during the flights, from what I could tell Zorro Jun 2020 #29
are they requiring masks on the planes do you know? Skittles Jun 2020 #30
I believe they are Zorro Jun 2020 #32
ha Skittles Jun 2020 #33
I contracted the flu on a United flight, three years ago, GETPLANING Jun 2020 #11
absolutely. to think of it Roc2020 Jun 2020 #13
Flying is torture now. I would drive a very long distance to avoid it. lagomorph777 Jun 2020 #18
I am not flying again until there is a vaccine. Initech Jun 2020 #25
Lucky you. Some of us have family and work in other countries. a la izquierda Jun 2020 #26
Yeah I know it sucks. Initech Jun 2020 #27

Roc2020

(1,616 posts)
2. the plummet happened during lockdown
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 01:07 PM
Jun 2020

so 'slides' is still plummeting??? or cratering down from plummeting. it's just bad getting worse.

LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
3. My hotel has not called me yet, so they have not been getting the reservations. Middle of tourist
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 01:07 PM
Jun 2020

season and they are still on skeleton crew.

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
4. Who doesn't want to sit in a pressurized germ tube with 100 other people for 3 hours?
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 01:15 PM
Jun 2020

It was bad enough before COVID. My family always had to take an extra two or three days after vacations to allow someone to recover from an illness that they would inevitably pick up on the trip.

Cirque du So-What

(25,972 posts)
8. With plenty of air circulation
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 01:29 PM
Jun 2020

to ensure uniform distribution of virus throughout the plane. I am thankful that my work doesn't require air travel.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
14. I've gotten sick every time I've flown in recent years.
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 02:44 PM
Jun 2020

Largely it's stress from the constantly escalating bullshit that airlines impose on passengers. Partly it's the physically hostile environment of the airplane cabin. Partly probably the concentrated pathogen load.

moreland01

(740 posts)
5. I guess I'm in an information bubble
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 01:18 PM
Jun 2020

because what I see is a ton of people not wearing masks and "dying" to go out to eat, attend crowded events, etc.

Why aren't all these people making airline flights as they normally would?

Roc2020

(1,616 posts)
10. That's an excellent point
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 02:08 PM
Jun 2020

seems like the crowded public venues are somewhat of a show to rail against those liberals! but a personal risk for Cvd19 where no one will see like an airplane ride is a no go. Trump supporters are spinning like a gig!

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
12. There's a perception
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 02:25 PM
Jun 2020

that eating at a restaurant, especially outside, is safer than being crammed on to a commercial aircraft, especially in coach. I can understand that. I'm absolutely not going to fly until a vaccine has been widely distributed.

dutch777

(3,035 posts)
6. Why take the risk?...the mods to planes that airlines are proposing aren't nearly enough
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 01:19 PM
Jun 2020

Until you get:

1. Everyone wearing a mask everywhere in public
2. Spacing on the plane that is at least 6 feet between passengers in any direction-- those dumb little side of seat shields they are proposing are a joke as is just skipping the middle seat.
3. Medical grade air filtration or really complete 100% exhaust and replacement with fresh outside air
4. Universal and regular testing of everyone so there is less and less chance the person getting on the plane with you is not an asymptomatic carrier.

You would be crazy to get on a plane now if you didn't have to. My son is an easy 1.5 hour flight away and just bought a house that I would love to go see and congratulate him on in person. I can drive it in 12 hours and that is going to be the way I do it when I think its safer for even doing that.

agingdem

(7,854 posts)
9. I flew to Atlanta on United a week ago
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 01:31 PM
Jun 2020

Masks, social distancing, hand sanitizers ..I felt safe and I’m the demographic trump wants to sacrifice

agingdem

(7,854 posts)
22. I can only do so much to stay safe..
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 03:46 PM
Jun 2020

I can’t hide in my house any longer.. I’m 72 years old and I can’t live scared.. masks gloves social distancing sanitizer....my fear is we will turn into a nation of agoraphobics .. I’m going to Denver in July.. tempting fate maybe .. I’ll get back to you if I’m still above ground

agingdem

(7,854 posts)
24. Already did..
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 03:52 PM
Jun 2020

Refuse to die until that piece of garbage and his reptilian spawn are vanquished and Mitch and Susan disappear

Skittles

(153,185 posts)
28. could you tell us what percentage of the passengers were masked
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 07:57 PM
Jun 2020

I'm assuming the airline staff are all masked?

Zorro

(15,749 posts)
29. All the passengers wore masks during the flights, from what I could tell
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 08:35 PM
Jun 2020

Some were being maskless dickheads while waiting in the boarding area, but they put them on when getting on the flights.

It was the typical mad scramble getting off the planes, with people crowding the aisles as normal.

Zorro

(15,749 posts)
32. I believe they are
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 08:47 PM
Jun 2020

I did see the gate agents kick one guy off a flight, but he was being an asshole about not wanting to check his oversized carryon (for free!) that was too big for the overhead.

Maybe he was bringin' in a couple of keys...

Skittles

(153,185 posts)
33. ha
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 08:53 PM
Jun 2020

I remember a virtual coworker moaning about an airline that refused to let him board with six laptops, he said, can you believe that? I told him I could not believe he didn't check with the airline ahead of time that he needed to bring those laptops on board (something about not letting them out of his sight).

GETPLANING

(846 posts)
11. I contracted the flu on a United flight, three years ago,
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 02:14 PM
Jun 2020

almost died from it. Now I never miss a flu shot.
Also, flying is torture these days, long lines at security checkpoints, fees for everything, tiny seats.
Flight crews are still the best people, I don't know how they can go to work every day in those cramped things.

Roc2020

(1,616 posts)
13. absolutely. to think of it
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 02:31 PM
Jun 2020

almost every time our household have flown especially overseas, someone have gotten ill. one time my wife got extremely ill so much so it got a little scary.

Initech

(100,100 posts)
25. I am not flying again until there is a vaccine.
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 04:29 PM
Jun 2020

Until then it's time to put on some good tunes and hit the road! I'll start flying again when it's safer to do so.

a la izquierda

(11,797 posts)
26. Lucky you. Some of us have family and work in other countries.
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 07:32 PM
Jun 2020

I can’t drive to England. I haven’t seen my partner in 7.5 months. I start a law program in October and need to flat-hunt. I sure as hell don’t want to fly Saturday, but I don’t have much choice.

Initech

(100,100 posts)
27. Yeah I know it sucks.
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 07:48 PM
Jun 2020

I mean I want to travel, I had two trips booked this year that I had to cancel, and I also had a third planned to visit my cousin in New Hampshire that got put on hold. I also want to go visit my relatives in Arizona but can't do that for the foreseeable future.

I know some people don't have a choice for traveling and it really sucks. So yeah I do feel for you. But as for current travel I will refrain from traveling by air so until there's a vaccine widely available, or the virus peters out and becomes nothing and taking road trips like to Arizona and up north to places like Sacramento and Portland for the time being.

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