‘Meet The Press’ host caught misquoting Obama
Source: Raw Story
Meet The Press host caught misquoting Obama
By Arturo Garcia
Sunday, September 30, 2012 14:07 EDT
Meet The Press host David Gregory apparently misquoted President Barack Obama while setting up a question to a guest, Think Progress reported Sunday.
The President has said as recently as May of this year that al Qaeda has not had a chance to rebuild, that al Qaeda has been defeated, Gregory said to David Plouffe, a senior advisor to the president. There is an election on, as weve been talking about, and the Presidents challenger [Republican Mitt Romney] said plain and simple, the President failed to level with the American people and call this a terrorist attack, because you had to be concerned about another terrorist attack from al Qaeda in the Middle East after the President said that al Qaeda had been defeated.
As Think Progress noted, Gregorys remarks seem to incorrectly reference a May 1 televised address by Obama from Bagram Air Base in Afghanistan, but Obama did not say the terrorist group had been beaten.
One year ago, from a base here in Afghanistan, our troops launched the operation that killed Osama bin Laden, Obama said. The goal that I set to defeat al Qaeda and deny it a chance to rebuild is now within our reach.
Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/09/30/meet-the-press-host-caught-misquoting-obama/
FarPoint
(12,409 posts)Meet the Press is now a show I kick to the curb on Sunday mornings. He is 100% in the tank for the repugs that discussion is no longer an option.
proud2BlibKansan
(96,793 posts)He was so in the tank for Bush and his wars I just couldn't do it any more.
FarPoint
(12,409 posts)I sense he may of come more to the center at least....Even Chis Matthews figured out the GOP's plan to use him as a tool post *bush-cheney.
proud2BlibKansan
(96,793 posts)He wasn't stupid.
dmr
(28,347 posts)It literally made me sick to watch it.
liberalmike27
(2,479 posts)Is an elitist tool. Russert wasn't much better IMO.
I find all of the Sunday shows, except Chris Hayes UP insufferable. Gregory's NBC show is the only one I stopped recording.
About all the Sunday shows, you should do an average wealth of the panels. Just look them up on line, average them all, you'll find they are in the tens of millions. We're listening to people who own an average of tens of millions in wealth.
You should know who your information is coming from, and how much money they have tells you a lot about whether their lives are enough like yours to give them any credence.
ellenfl
(8,660 posts)this past weekend i watched 'this week' for the panel.
ellenfl
(8,660 posts)12AngryBorneoWildmen
(536 posts)they gave a platform to Mr. Ann Coulter, week before last. How about Randi Rhodes? Now THAT would be 'Must See TV'!
BlueStreak
(8,377 posts)just as they have done with Rachael. It would be interesting to see one of the networks program some truth against all that corporate crap.
I haven't watched any of them for 15 years. If there is anything noteworthy, I can catch it after the fact.
BootinUp
(47,165 posts)I would be Shocked if it hadn't been going on for years.
awake
(3,226 posts)JeffHead
(1,186 posts)Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)Gal Friday
(87 posts)Tim Russert was the best.
BootinUp
(47,165 posts)Seedersandleechers
(3,044 posts)at being a Repblican stooge.
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,330 posts)Kolesar
(31,182 posts)proud2BlibKansan
(96,793 posts)Submariner
(12,504 posts)The executive agreed. But are you concerned about losing yourself? You know, selling out?
Russert pounded the table. Integrity is for paupers!
http://makethemaccountable.com/podvin/media/020109_Russert.htm
calimary
(81,322 posts)Tim Russert disappointed me greatly. As a retired broadcast journalist myself, I was acutely - and sometimes uncomfortably - aware that as the business was increasingly deregulated, the goal of presenting both sides honestly, equally, and dispassionately seemed to fade from a lot of my colleagues.
Once upon a time, no network anchor or lead correspondent would wear a campaign button favoring one party's candidate over another to a social event where many of his/her peers and newsmakers of all kinds were in attendance, and then go around flashing it sneakily to various key people. You were supposed to be objective AT ALL TIMES. Your credibility and impartiality were sacrosanct - and all you had to reinforce your own good name. You were expected to cut through the crap, not show favoritism, and make sure equal attention was paid to each side. You would not even think of loading up your talking-head panels or table of guests with a 3:1 or sometimes 4:1 ratio favoring one party over another. You would seek out the views of those who weren't getting comparable attention, and not completely suppress them. Tim Russert did all those things, and with an increasingly noticeable gleeful twinkle in his eye. As the persecution of Bill Clinton grew to a shrieking climax in the late '90's, Russert gobbled it up hungrily, using his "Meet the Press" vehicle to further the agenda and the policies and the successes of the GOP. He continued through the bush-2 years with an almost obscenely lopsided presentation favoring the bush/cheney administration, serving as one of the lead cheerleaders for the drive toward war in Iraq. There were precious few voices offered airtime or face time on "Meet the Press" AT ALL during those years. And he shilled for dubya's victories in 2000 and 2004. It was he who wore that bush/cheney campaign button into a big reception hosted by GE CEO Jack Welch, and he'd flash his jacket open to specific people to make sure they knew where his heart secretly belonged. And Jack Welch made a point of being IN the NBC Network Newsroom on Selection night and, many of us believe, did so to make sure his presence was CLEARLY felt all over the newsroom - by a room full of employees who knew painfully well which side Welch was betting on.
The way things were ramrodded through during the dubya years, and impeded during the Clinton years - was LED, at least at NBC News, by Tim Russert. He set the tone, as host and managing editor of "Meet the Press," which is still regarded as the longtime and highly-venerable news program of record on Sunday mornings. Its reputation was severely tarnished during the partisan Tim Russert years. I used to admire him, but as I watched his objectivity fade, my dislike for him and distrust of him only grew stronger.
Full disclosure, I got into the news business during the mid-70s when the FCC began to make it clear to America's radio and TV stations and networks that they better start hiring some women. I worked for some of the biggest local news stations and news departments, and at the network level at NBC News, ABC News, the RKO Radio Network, and a couple of brief bits for the Mutual Radio Network while it still existed.
Tim Russert was once a hero of mine. Unfortunately, that changed. Frankly, a LOT of those people I idolized and grew up wishing I'd someday be able to work with some of them turned out to be as guilty of bias and news malpractice as Tim Russert. Russert became a wholly-owned subsidiary of Chairman Jack Welch, of NBC's parent company, and did not do a thing that he knew would displease the big guy. Many of them were swept away into Bias-land during the Clinton years, with the pile-on and media takeover by the wrong wing and all its think tanks and propaganda campaigns and rewordings and re-meming, and the development of Pox Noise.
This was made possible by the dismantling of the Fairness Doctrine and Equal Time Provisions at the end of the reagan era, after "the Gipper" had spent his entire regime softening up America to the idea that government was something bad instead of something "of the people, by the people, and for the people" as an instrument for the common good. reagan got us all brainwashed into thinking regulations were bad and taxing the rich was worse, and that the poor were nothing but lazy moochers. His rightful heir, lo these many years later, is mitt wrongney, as we've seen. And as big business was unshackled from the frenzy of mergers and acquisitions - and the kind of slicky-boy ponzi schemes that wrongney himself pioneered at Bain Capital in the hedge fund heyday. By the time Clinton came along, the other shoe was forced to drop - with the restrictions on media ownership lifted. WHICH MEANT that any big conglomerate could own as many broadcast/media/cable/TV/radio properties in any one market as they wanted. No further restrictions. They crowded out all the mom and pop stations like the ones where I got my start, and sold eager CONservative legislators on the idea that more consolidated corporate ownership would ironically provide MORE consumer choices! What a crock of shit THAT was. We can all see the results of that crimping and pinching and "narrow-casting" as a handful of Goliaths can run the table because they own it all - and they have cluster managers now, one programmer or programming consultant overseeing maybe half-a-dozen stations (all playing pretty much the same damn thing, no personality DJ "clutter" and the same damn stale boring hits that you can hear on 20 other stations in the same town). When I was starting, it was ONE P.D. per station. ONE News Director per station. ONE Music Director per station. ONE Chief Engineer per station. There were also unions clearly delineating who did what. By the time I retired, the unions had been defanged, declawed, and skinned alive, and as stations merged, the layoffs of whole departments (for example, it might be 90% of the AM staff that got laid off and the FM staff would then have to double up on the work load - and for no additional pay).
Sorry - I could rant on about what happened - for many pages longer than this. I saw the mission of reporters and anchors and producers shift - from OBJECTIVELY covering the news, and getting to the bottom of the story, and asking follow-up questions at a press availability, and not gluing yourself to pre-determined questions during an interview - to not rocking the boat if it might piss off some sponsor or friend of the general manager. I saw people coming into the business who thought their job was merely to let Guy #A spout off his piece, and then Guy #B spout of his piece, and that was that and "well, we'll just have to leave it there..." RATHER THAN - "excuse me Guy #A but do you realize what you just said was NOT true?" No. They thought their job was just to show this side and that side, or read from their press releases, and then leave it at that. No analysis, no truth-digging, no fact-checking. I have heard, over and over, ad nauseam, versions of "it's not MY job as a journalist to sift through what they say or fact-check them..." THE HELL IT ISN'T!!!!!!! The result is, the falsehoods stay alive, unchallenged, unquestioned, and there's nothing added or inserted to check them in any way.
And as a result, we had a Presidential election completely STOLEN (some also argue with facts to back them up) that not only the 2000 election but the 2004 election was stolen as well. And we were ramrodded into an illegal, immoral war in Iraq - whose objectors and challengers and questioners were ignored and muzzled by the media. And that brings us back around to prominent news figures like Tim Russert. AND Tom Brokaw. AND Chris Wallace, AND Diane Sawyer, and George Stephanopulous, and Wolf Blitzer, and LEGIONS more who pay more attention to who's signing their massive paychecks and what those paymasters expect in exchange for those princely salaries. And they should be paying attention to THE NEWS. And even more critically important, THE TRUTH.
This is just what I saw, and the dots I connected, being neck-deep in it for quite awhile - maybe a quarter-century or so, give or take a few months.
Iwillnevergiveup
(9,298 posts)this was just a superb post, and you laid it out so well from the perspective of someone who has some skin in the game. Broadcast "news" is exactly as you describe it to the point where I gave up on PBS Lehrer/MacNeil. Jim Lehrer hosting is awful and biased, and that smarmy David Brooks??? No thanks!
Really respect what you had to say and feel better after sending MTP a little feedback. They won't like it.
tularetom
(23,664 posts)Most of us myself included are still at the "Russert sucks" stage of commentary. But this hits the nail on the head not only as a criticism of MTP and Russert but the entire liberal media (at least the broadcast medium).
It pretty much details the devolution of journalism from a profession to a trade over the past 30 or 40 years to the point where our prominent TV "news" people are nothing more than stenographers or even worse, cheerleaders for one point of view.
I had forgotten the little Tim-Russert-wearing-the-Bush-button-to-impress-Mr-General-Electric episode.
Again, great post.
Doremus
(7,261 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)Yeah I had not thought of it like that, but like many things, (or maybe because of it) so much is about form over substance - people rather than ideas or truth. Not rocking the boat to get your paycheck. Journalism has suffered a lot because of it.
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)Very informative. And it illustrates why MSM "news" is becoming increasingly irrelevant. SMART people don't want the bias and they don't want others sifting through the stories and deciding what is important and what isn't. Why is Lindsay Lohan more important than global warming? It isn't. I'm also sick to death of the "soundbite news" where they are almost literally reading you the headlines then moving on to the next headline. Nothing in-depth and when they do try to go in-depth, it's usually wrong because nobody seems to be willing to call bullshit when it's right in front of them.
Thank the goddess for the internet or this country would be no better than the Soviet Union during the height of communism.
LittleGirl
(8,287 posts)I studied to go into journalism but never broke the employment barrier in that field and I think I would probably be saying the same thing 30 yrs later. Very interesting post and I wished you had made it a thread starter. Cheers.
OldDem2012
(3,526 posts)The news media began a steady decline in honest impartiality in 1948 when the CIA implemented Operation Mockingbird.
That long slide into dishonesty was accelerated the day the first media organization was bought by a major business. I still watch TV news programs, but I no longer trust anything they say. Sadly, this chart tells us all we need to know about today's mainstream media: Who Owns the Media?
Edward R. Murrow must be spinning in his grave at an ever-increasing rate of speed. He would not like or even recognize today's mainstream news media.
steve2470
(37,457 posts)horseshoecrab
(944 posts)There's nothing quite as damning as the word from one who was there. Would love to see an OP with more of this from you.
More and more people need to be educated about the history of the decline of our media.
Thank you again for sharing these experiences.
maddiemom
(5,106 posts)We seem to be contemporaries, although I was never a journalist; not print or broadcast. My educational and professional background, however, required much knowledge about propaganda, slanting. framing... in writing and listening, then teaching it to others. Without your first hand knowledge, I had much the same reaction and decreasing disappointment concerning Russert. Although his untimely death was a tragedy for his family and friends, I was never in agreement that it was a tragic loss to broadcast journalism. David Gregory could lose his voice tomorrow and be no great loss.
AnotherMother4Peace
(4,247 posts)liberalmike27
(2,479 posts)I totally agree. I said it above, Russert was a tool. A Republican servant, a right-wing boot-licker.
Smickey
(3,329 posts)Calimary what a great post. Good to see, from a sausage makers point of view, that those of us who suspected/knew this were right. Especially as pertains to Russert.
By the way someone that smells of ground up meat and spices should write a book. I bet a bunch of us here would buy it. You could even use your DU Pseudonym. Or have you already? Hmmmm. I wonder?
speedoo
(11,229 posts)Incredibly informative. Thank you.
Delphinus
(11,831 posts)Love this kind of perspective.
No analysis, no truth-digging, no fact-checking. I have heard, over and over, ad nauseam, versions of "it's not MY job as a journalist to sift through what they say or fact-check them..." THE HELL IT ISN'T!!!!!!!
Absolutely! I so agree with you.
SemperEadem
(8,053 posts)he was no better.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Like this: Russert kissed the 1%'s ass.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)He was the "Go to guy" to sell lies during the Bush Years:
Orrex
(63,216 posts)Instead of the nine-times-out-of-ten Republican shill and apologist that he really was.
OldDem2012
(3,526 posts)...then yes, he was the "best" at doing that.
His son Luke appears to be following in his Dad's footsteps.
RandiFan1290
(6,237 posts)you are wrong
amuse bouche
(3,657 posts)I couldn't stand Russert and don't get the Canonization of him
proud2BlibKansan
(96,793 posts)Here's a good video of part of it - at the end of this youtube:
MADem
(135,425 posts)classof56
(5,376 posts)Would be very disappointing if he didn't.
OBAMA/BIDEN 2012
SCVDem
(5,103 posts)Meet The Press?
That implies Gregory is the 'press'?
facepalm!
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)...I can't stand him and want a correction.
Progressive dog
(6,905 posts)SoapBox
(18,791 posts)Sekhmets Daughter
(7,515 posts)I've sent an email objecting to Gregory's poor hosting....
lillypaddle
(9,580 posts)I just sent them some "feedback."
cheriemedium59
(212 posts)I have never cared for David Gregory. Plus, I mean Ralph Reed? That's the best
they can do for a conservative representative????
lunasun
(21,646 posts)JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)Then it can be fun depending on which RW fool she eviscerates.
Denise21
(63 posts)YOU SUCK DAVID! WE NEED PEOPLE WHO REPRESENT THE PEOPLE NOT AN IDIOT LIKE YOU!
George II
(67,782 posts)ieoeja
(9,748 posts)One moderator, one or two guests, and three press members from various sources (print, broadcast, internet, cable, ) where the press grills the guest. There is a reason they called it Meet The Press.
George II
(67,782 posts)....occasionally when there was a big story. Now we get almost the second half of the show every week with the same "analysts" who spout the same crap over and over again. I can't watch that show any more - I' tired of hearing Gregrory saying "I want....", "I want...." and steer the so-called "discussion" his way.
CBS' "Face the Nation" is much more rational and even-handed (and only 30 minutes)
Blue Idaho
(5,049 posts)Way a shock! Gregory is a real dick.
ok yours was better than mine.
underthematrix
(5,811 posts)I stopped watching around 2007. These pundits seems to like both self-esteem and a moral compass. I have a problem with anyone who equivocates the two parties in terms of nastiness and obstructionism. There is no comparison between the two. The GOP is so unpatriotic and hateful toward the president, they are willing to bring down the American people and our country. I hope PBO wins all 50 states. A win like that would be the strongest statement against the GOP hatefulness, fear mongering, and divisive obstructionism.
WCGreen
(45,558 posts)Meet the Press and most of the other gab fests disguises as informative programing are the equivalent of the Mammoth lumbering toward extinction.
Hell, Sponge Bob Square Pants gets more eyeballs and the people watching the under the sea gang probably have a better sense of todays America than any of the tools who occupy the public airwaves.
Things are changing real quick and these dinosaurs better get with the program or they will find themselves in the dustbin of History.
And all they would have to do to turn it all around would be to simply commit journalism.
OKNancy
(41,832 posts)Cha
(297,323 posts)under the article from FB read almost like the comments here.
Replace David Gregory! He needs to be called on it and apologize at the very Least!
Twitter him. @DavidGregory
Festivito
(13,452 posts)SoapBox
(18,791 posts)just1voice
(1,362 posts)They care about ratings and money and have been willing to invent whatever "truth" they need for years.
The Wizard
(12,545 posts)Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)of my normality.
TahitiNut
(71,611 posts)David Gregory was giving Ralph Reed the deluxe treatment ... fellatio AND ass-kissing. It was disgusting. The LIES were flying like condoms at a whore house.
madokie
(51,076 posts)He's a sell out
graywarrior
(59,440 posts)I really cannot stand that guy.
LonePirate
(13,426 posts)left on green only
(1,484 posts)valerief
(53,235 posts)longship
(40,416 posts)I have no NBC affiliate in my reception area, but PtM is a disgrace, and has been for some time.
R&K
SaveAmerica
(5,342 posts)JNelson6563
(28,151 posts)Anyone here surprised?
TahitiNut
(71,611 posts)The LIES that spewed forth like a gusher on Press The Meat should've earned an 'R' rating. Gregory is a disgusting piece of elephant shit and exudes a noxious stench that permeates all of NBC and much of what's called "journalism" on TV.
Jakes Progress
(11,122 posts)that sold out to get the gig he wanted. Principles, journalism, personal honesty. These count for nothing to him.
ElboRuum
(4,717 posts)David Gregory's softballs to GOP shills and what appears to be his Republican friendly attitude just make me have to shut it off.
aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)You would think he would do his homework and be absolutely letter perfect, considering he has an important national show. Gregory doesn't deserve his spot.
McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)SleeplessinSoCal
(9,123 posts).99center
(1,237 posts)"Within our reach" Is far from claiming victory. Do you have a link or anything to verify your claim?
SleeplessinSoCal
(9,123 posts)I recall being struck that we may not ever defeat Al Qaeda because it just takes one small cell to do harm. I believe I heard the president claim to have come as close to defeating Al Qaeda as possible without making himself vulnerable to the exact thing we see happening from Gregory.
NYtoBush-Drop Dead
(490 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)tibbir
(1,170 posts)Timbuk3
(872 posts)<iframe width="420" height="315" src="
" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>I probably should have added a "this may make you vomit in your mouth, a little" warning.
Chiyo-chichi
(3,581 posts)"If this isn't proof that David Gregory has no business being the moderator of Meet the Press, I don't know what is."
BE10sCoach
(48 posts)a TWIT, TWIT, TWIT!
YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)CheapShotArtist
(333 posts)David Gregory has always reminded me of Squidward.
Iggy
(1,418 posts)That's what I did-- oh, 15 years ago.
the bobblehead shows are more or less worthless-- due to the "access" baloney, i.e. they don't
get access to politicians-- unless they agree to not ask certain questions--
so cretins like Gregory lob them softball questions about softball issues.
weak.
this is not worth my time.
raouldukelives
(5,178 posts)Iggy
(1,418 posts)good to finally bump into you here at DU! (hoisting a glass of dark rum in your direction
agreed.. IMHO, lamestream media is just one huge propaganda machine... I do much better
reading books and periodicals like The Economist..
Bloomberg Biz Week is good, too
OLDMDDEM
(1,575 posts)When David Gregory took over MTP, I originally thought he would be a good unbiased host. I was wrong. He does not balance his interviewees between Rs and Ds and does not necessarily give people a chance to respond. He generally cuts them off and goes to a commercial which happened, again, yesterday when the discredited Ralph Reed ranted on and on about how lousy of a job Obama was doing. You could see that Ed Rendell wanted to say something but Gregory cut to a commercial break. When they came back, Gregory was on another subject.
Like I said, I used to like David Gregory but I think he is showing too much of a bias to be the host of MTP.
occupymybrain
(74 posts)Every time I watch this guy I feel like he is a pawn of the republicons party. I can't stand his smug "well i'm David Gregory don't question me" Attitude. So I came to DU to get my news and thoughts on the day. Best choice I made today.
George II
(67,782 posts)Dustlawyer
(10,495 posts)I travel up and down the Gulf Coast, and I have watched BP buy off ALL TV, radio and newspapers there so they will not do any victim stories or say anything negative about BP. There has been no reporting that BP has bought off the Repug governors on the coast even though not one of them is demanding BP settle with the victims of their states. Most people think BP already took care of this with a 20 billion dollar fund, what a joke! There was never 20 billion parked anywhere, but no one says anything. They will keep coming for control over the Internet, mark my words. They already monitor all of this here!
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)Gregory is a Repuke shill.
Berlum
(7,044 posts)Gregory is total republican puppet.
FlyByNight
(1,756 posts)I hope all of that precious insider, DC "access" is worth Gregory's conscience - such as it is.
Fucking media whore.
benld74
(9,904 posts)green917
(442 posts)I was at a local Thai restaurant with my 15 year old daughter last night when an elderly couple was seated at the booth behind ours. Virtually immediately after sitting down, the man of the couple began bloviating about this topic..."they said it wasn't a terrorist attack initially because he sympathizes with the terrorists.", "I can't believe the media isn't calling him out for lying to the American people about the attack", etc. etc.
I listened, silently fuming and, when leaving couldn't help myself (read as, I couldn't hold my tongue any longer). I approached him and his wife and said the following:
"Sir, allow me to preface this with the fact that I mean no disrespect but, I have been, by necessity listening to your conversation and I feel that I have to comment.
This President does NOT sympathize with anyone who would do this Nation or her people harm because, I believe, he has a deep and unyielding love of this Country as do I. His Administration did not exercise restraint in calling the attack in Libya a terrorist attack because of any misguided sense of how foreign policy works or because he's a secret muslim (to which, ironically, he nodded...which was very telling)....he didn't come out and call it a terrorist attack until last week because, that is when the intelligence came in with confirmation that their suspicions had been correct and it was, in fact, a coordinated terror attack. And, personally, I would rather have a President who weighs the intelligence before going off half cocked than one who rushes into an unnecessary war with a Nation that never attacked us, getting dozens of my friends and brothers in arms killed for no good god-damned reason like the last guy to hold that office did! At least this President understands the real cost of war...probably because he wasn't born with a silver spoon in his mouth, which is one of many reasons he will (I'm assuming, much to your chagrin) win a 2nd term in office."
speedoo
(11,229 posts)Smickey
(3,329 posts)When I have tried something similar. What comes out is something akin to Klingon.
Uncle Joe
(58,366 posts)Thanks for the thread, Judi Lynn.