Navy to ban Confederate flag, symbols from its bases and ships

[rdking647]

Source: the hill

The Navy is planning to ban Confederate flags from being displayed on any of its installations, in a move that comes after protests swept the nation following the death of George Floyd, a black man who died in police custody in Minneapolis.

Admiral Michael M. Gilday said in a statement on Tuesday that he directed his staff to begin crafting an order that bans the flag from "all public spaces and work areas aboard Navy installations, ships, aircraft and submarines."

Read more: https://thehill.com/policy/defense/501921-navy-to-ban-confederate-flag-symbols-from-its-bases-and-ships?__twitter_impression=true

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i just dont understand the fascination some have with the flag of traitors and losers

[Mr.Bill]

1. Just think,

it only took them 150 years.

[Rhiannon12866]

34. +1000!

[lagomorph777]

35. I didn't realize that shit was allowed!

Unbelievable. Clear violation of the oath they swear.

[Gothmog]

2. First the Marines and now the Navy

This is great

Link to tweet

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

6. Can the U.S. Space Force be far behind?

No Stars & Bars on Space-X modules!

[soldierant]

25. The Navy can probably save a whoole lot of time by copying the Marine Corps order.

[pm_me_grey_paint]

33. There would have to be an exception put in...

...for the Confederate flags captured in battle that are held in the Naval Academy's trophy flag collection.

There's no current pictures online that I can find of them, but photos of the flags when they were preserved in 1912 are in this book

https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=loc.ark:/13960/t7jq1c85v&view=1up&seq=3

The flag on page 88 looks suspiciously familiar to the flag waved by neo-confederates and their ilk.

[Beakybird]

3. Traitors who fought to keep people as slaves. How SICK!

[Fla Dem]

4. I am absolutely aghast, seriously, to find out the Confederate flag has been displayed in any manner

on any of our military bases, vehicles, planes and ships.

The Confederacy were traitors to the United States of America. Over 360,000 US troops were killed defending the United States. We do not honor traitors.

[Aristus]

20. I was in the Army from 1989 to 1993. That flag was everywhere.

In the barracks, on bumper stickers, you name it.

A buddy of mine from Basic Training shared a barracks room with one of those 'The South with rise again!' types, with the flag on full display on the wall of their room.

My friend is Filipino, and was understandably hurt by the explicit white supremacy message of the flag. I would sneak into the room from time to time when Traitor Boy wasn't there, and leave anonymous Post-Its on his flag, talking about how if the South ever rose again, we'd kick its ass again, that kind of thing.

My friend suspected it was me doing this. When we met up again about eight years ago, he thanked me for looking out for him, even anonymously. I wish now that I'd been more brazen about it. Doing it anonymously was a little cowardly. The slavery and segregation supporters were many, and they brooked no dissent.

[MichMan]

22. Why didnt you tear it down and destroy it?

[Aristus]

28. I could probably have been brought up on charges of theft.

Anyway, leaving needling little notes was much more rewarding. My friend told me that every time his roommate found one of the notes, he would fly into a helpless rage. He knew my friend wasn't doing it.

[Buckeye_Democrat]

5. Wait! Was it ever displayed by them?!

It's really effed-up if it happened.

[underpants]

9. T-shirts, bumper stickers, hats

Maybe a poster in a barracks room.

That’s what this is about.

[Buckeye_Democrat]

12. Oh. Well, I'm glad they're stopping it. nt

[Odoreida]

7. This is good, but ...

... who in the Navy was previously flying the Confederate flag?

Not habitually I hope. Was there an incident, or is this just to be on the safe side?

[underpants]

10. No, sailors personal items.

Hats bumper stickers etc.

[bluescribbler]

21. Tattoos as well.

I served from 69 to 72, and saw many of them. The Navy back then was full of unreconstructed rebels. When they told me, "The South will rise again", I replied, "Yeah. Shit floats."

[MichMan]

23. Will they kick everyone out with it tattooed on them ?

[bluescribbler]

32. Probably not.

Grandfather clause or something

[whopis01]

8. Aren't you being a bit hypocritical?

(Couldn't resist - your avatar cracked me up in relation to this topic/thread)

[rdking647]

13. klingons have honor :)

of course i could change my avatar to the imperial cog since i am part of a star wars costume group and we only do the bad guys
#badguysdoinggood

[Sherman A1]

11. Long overdue

hopefully the other services will follow

[BlueIdaho]

14. If you have an America flag on your uniform

And a confederate flag in your locker - which nation are you serving? Sounds like cause for a dishonorable discharge.

[MaryMagdaline]

15. Exactly. Now they are in notice. It's a start

[djacq]

16. Air Force needs to step up.

During my 24 years in the U.S. Air Force, I have stepped in a good share of an Airman's dorm rooms with the Confederate Flag in full display.

Should of been ban then, should be ban NOW.

[LiberalFighter]

17. It should include tattoos.

[keithbvadu2]

18. Approved by the Commander in Chief Trump?

So far, yes.

[keithbvadu2]

19. Trump, a NY yankee, calls Sessions a 'dumb southerner' and the South loves him.

After all, they brag that he 'tells it like it is'.

[npk]

29. Trump has referred to people in the South as being dumb many times before

His former wife Marla Maples, he referred to her family as dumb southerners. Southerners think Trump likes them, but he thinks they are rubes and rednecks and has no real use for them. It's kinda sad really, but maybe Trump is right. Maybe they are dumb. Or as tRump would call them useful idiots. Southerners have always voted for people that have largely worked to keep them down and many of them poor, if after all this time they keep voting for Republicans they will continue to reap the hate they have sowed.

[diane in sf]

24. Because of their rotten Republican economies a lot of military recruits come from the south.

For many, it’s the best job they can get and a route out of poverty.

[dlk]

26. Given the confederate flag stands for treason, slavery & bloodshed, better late than never

Banning this flag that also stands for white male supremacy is long overdue.

[TheFourthMind]

27. ...in 2020. nt

[BrightKnight]

30. I thought that was settled about 150 years ago. nt

[beachbumbob]

31. banning all tattoos on military personnel that represents nazi and/or confederate symbols

should be the NORM on all military AND POLICE personnel