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ansible

(1,718 posts)
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 07:18 PM Apr 2020

Newsom chides California beachgoers: 'We can't see images like we saw'

Source: politico

OAKLAND — Gov. Gavin Newsom chided Californians who flocked to beaches over the weekend, saying they could delay an otherwise imminent start to reopening the economy.

“We can’t see images like we saw, particularly on Saturday, in Newport Beach and elsewhere,” Newsom told reporters, adding that coronavirus “doesn't go home because it's a beautiful sunny day around our coasts.” Flattening rates of infection and death have California poised to begin lifting restrictions on social activity and economic life. Newsom said Monday that the state is “weeks, not months" away from relief in the form of “meaningful modifications” to the state’s stay-at-home order. But he warned that backsliding on social distancing could undermine that goal.

“The only thing that will set us back is our behavior,” Newsom said, adding that “the only thing that can stop that is more images like we saw this weekend.”

The governor noted that officials in coastal Orange County were looking at “augmentations” to limits on beach use and he suggested the California Highway Patrol could “avail ourselves to more aggressive enforcement.”



Read more: https://www.politico.com/states/california/story/2020/04/27/newsom-chides-california-beachgoers-we-cant-see-images-like-we-saw-1280419

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Newsom chides California beachgoers: 'We can't see images like we saw' (Original Post) ansible Apr 2020 OP
Check their IDs and record them for cross referencing at hospitals captain queeg Apr 2020 #1
Our Texas beaches are packed as well. Dustlawyer Apr 2020 #2
Stupid fools. If our numbers go up that will delay opening things up even longer still_one Apr 2020 #3
The way to slow the spread of the virus is to find the infected by mass testing rocktivity Apr 2020 #4
Yes, we need to keep infections down, until there's a vaccine ... (nt) mr_lebowski Apr 2020 #9
"we can't see images like we saw" orleans Apr 2020 #5
Agree. Irresponsible individuals are a danger to whole communities. That applies to all reopenings. ancianita Apr 2020 #7
Yep Steelrolled Apr 2020 #16
If they want to use the beach like that they should have to inject disinfectant first rpannier Apr 2020 #6
My idiot trumpanzee brother said going to the beach won't spread the virus because Talitha Apr 2020 #8
While it's inside of you? Our temperatures don't go up significantly just cause we're at the beach mr_lebowski Apr 2020 #10
Welcome to my world. Talitha Apr 2020 #11
I'd have responding by putting a plastic bag over his head mr_lebowski Apr 2020 #13
I take it to mean outside. Igel Apr 2020 #12
I took it to mean what the person reporting the story ... said happened. mr_lebowski Apr 2020 #14
I guess I am in the minority here MosheFeingold Apr 2020 #15
That was my thought - the camera pictures I saw were not that concerning. Steelrolled Apr 2020 #17

captain queeg

(10,208 posts)
1. Check their IDs and record them for cross referencing at hospitals
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 07:24 PM
Apr 2020

Even if they can’t be prevented from getting treatment the information would be very useful.

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
2. Our Texas beaches are packed as well.
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 07:28 PM
Apr 2020

It’s bad here already but with this it will be much worse, especially if they allow it to continue.

rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
4. The way to slow the spread of the virus is to find the infected by mass testing
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 09:57 PM
Apr 2020

and get enough of them off the streets so that the herd immunity of the uninfected can kick in.


rocktivity

orleans

(34,060 posts)
5. "we can't see images like we saw"
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 10:08 PM
Apr 2020

doesn't exactly sound like a strong warning to me

people won't give a shit.

a $500 ticket and citing them with "putting the public welfare in danger" going on a permanent record would probably have more of an impact.

ancianita

(36,081 posts)
7. Agree. Irresponsible individuals are a danger to whole communities. That applies to all reopenings.
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 11:12 PM
Apr 2020
 

Steelrolled

(2,022 posts)
16. Yep
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 03:57 PM
Apr 2020

He did his duty by saying something, but I don't think he is that worried about it. You can maintain safe distance on a beach, and those who don't are likely not being that careful in other places.

Talitha

(6,593 posts)
8. My idiot trumpanzee brother said going to the beach won't spread the virus because
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 11:37 PM
Apr 2020

the virus is coated in fat, and the hot beach environment will melt the fat and kill the virus while it's inside of you. Scariest of all - he's got a Masters degree in Science and taught it in high school for 25 years. Thank goodness the fool is retired.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
10. While it's inside of you? Our temperatures don't go up significantly just cause we're at the beach
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 02:45 AM
Apr 2020

That's kinda how being a 'warm-blooded animal' works.

Apparently, he was not a Biology major.

I suppose one could reasonably speculate that the heat might kill the virus BEFORE it gets in you, but once its in you ... nah.

Talitha

(6,593 posts)
11. Welcome to my world.
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 10:52 AM
Apr 2020

I never went to college but even I know better than that. Just like shitler though, these trumpanzees think they know everything - and there's no point in trying to educate them.

A few years ago I commented how glorious the Milky Way looked on the previous night and he immediately shot back with a laughing dismissal: "We're in the Milky Way - you can't see it from where we are!"

Sigh... all you can do is walk away from these people.


 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
13. I'd have responding by putting a plastic bag over his head
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 02:03 PM
Apr 2020

Holding it around his throat and yelling 'Ok, you're IN THIS PLASTIC BAG ... CAN YOU SEE IT? HUH?!? CAN YOU SEE IT?!?'

That's just me

Igel

(35,320 posts)
12. I take it to mean outside.
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 11:32 AM
Apr 2020

Either way, perception of high temperature isn't the same as a high temperature.

110-115 F is where we start feeling pain from things like hot metal and hot water. Our perception to pain, like pitch and volume, aren't linear.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
14. I took it to mean what the person reporting the story ... said happened.
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 02:05 PM
Apr 2020

Cause I have nothing else go by

MosheFeingold

(3,051 posts)
15. I guess I am in the minority here
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 02:18 PM
Apr 2020

Transmission outside, in the Sun, and the wind is highly unlikely.

Assuming people don’t pack themselves together like sardines, there is zero danger here.

Now, if it is a crowded mess and there are choke points, that’s a different ball of wax.

But hanging out on the beach reasonably spaced is about as low risk as things get.

 

Steelrolled

(2,022 posts)
17. That was my thought - the camera pictures I saw were not that concerning.
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 03:59 PM
Apr 2020

I think the governor just had to say something.

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