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brooklynite

(94,598 posts)
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 02:26 PM Apr 2020

Top E.R. Doctor Who Treated Virus Patients Dies by Suicide

Source: New York Times

A top emergency room doctor at a major Manhattan hospital that treated coronavirus patients died by suicide on Sunday, according to her father.

Dr. Lorna M. Breen, the medical director of the emergency department at NewYork-Presbyterian Allen Hospital, died in Charlottesville, Va., where she was staying with family, her father said in an interview.

Her father, Dr. Philip C. Breen, said she had described devastating scenes of the toll the coronavirus took on patients.

“She tried to do her job, and it killed her,” he said.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/27/nyregion/new-york-city-doctor-suicide-coronavirus.html

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Top E.R. Doctor Who Treated Virus Patients Dies by Suicide (Original Post) brooklynite Apr 2020 OP
K&R for visibility. nt tblue37 Apr 2020 #1
there are no words... hlthe2b Apr 2020 #2
Unutterably sad. Zoonart Apr 2020 #3
I don't care if it is reasonable or not. Pacifist Patriot Apr 2020 #4
+1 Lulu KC Apr 2020 #29
He is absolutely personally responsible for how many have been infected Ford_Prefect Apr 2020 #38
+1 CountMyVote4Reality Apr 2020 #41
+1000. (nt) Paladin Apr 2020 #43
Well said. nt Duppers Apr 2020 #49
Even before I read about this, Nuremberg, and Nuremberg punishment, was on my mind. NBachers Apr 2020 #52
I'm thinking more and more these days of the end of the movie Spartacus where the road is lined generalbetrayus Apr 2020 #66
Oh PP, it is more than reasonable DENVERPOPS Apr 2020 #42
It's reasonable. SammyWinstonJack Apr 2020 #58
+++ still_one Apr 2020 #59
OMG. This is tragic. Mrs. Overall Apr 2020 #5
Man, that's very heartbreaking. Baked Potato Apr 2020 #6
So terrible. I feel horrible for this loss and how devastating it must be for her family. kairos12 Apr 2020 #7
Ugh, after seeing some of the depressed doctors on television, this seemed inevitable. LisaM Apr 2020 #8
I hold tRump liable for Scarsdale Apr 2020 #17
I know. There's so much that could be different. LisaM Apr 2020 #22
I completely agree. Scarsdale Apr 2020 #26
Please include DENVERPOPS Apr 2020 #45
Of course all those people would have been better. No question. LisaM Apr 2020 #53
............ turbinetree Apr 2020 #9
The body/mind can only take so much. Frustratedlady Apr 2020 #10
Noooooo LittleGirl Apr 2020 #11
The Stable Genius saw it coming. BamaRefugee Apr 2020 #12
Tragic to loose such a dedicated medical professional appalachiablue Apr 2020 #13
This won't be counted as a Coronavirus death, even though it is in direct correlation ... aggiesal Apr 2020 #14
Heartbreaking. snacker Apr 2020 #15
Devastating Mike 03 Apr 2020 #16
I put her suicide upon republicans. They've vilified first responders from day one. ffr Apr 2020 #18
Part of the Triage process DENVERPOPS Apr 2020 #47
or one of them shouting down nurses. ffr Apr 2020 #50
I fear the day DENVERPOPS Apr 2020 #61
Oh come on now... OldBaldy1701E Apr 2020 #73
🕯️ irisblue Apr 2020 #19
Oh, that's so very sad :( DarthDem Apr 2020 #20
Unfortunatly, there will be a massive cost among our first-line heroes. PTSD will be rampant. 😥 SaveOurDemocracy Apr 2020 #21
100% correct. This should serve as a wake-up call. Jedi Guy Apr 2020 #71
This is awful in many ways. nt Sloumeau Apr 2020 #23
I saw a Dr. last night on TV saying he has never dealt with so much death. Midnight Writer Apr 2020 #24
I also read doctors are saying marlakay Apr 2020 #55
This is utterly heartbreaking. I can't imagine the pressure and stress medical workers are under. Politicub Apr 2020 #25
So very sad. cate94 Apr 2020 #27
Dr. Lorna M. Breen HERO Botany Apr 2020 #28
Too sad. Sounds like PTSD. marble falls Apr 2020 #30
So sad. My heart breaks. cayugafalls Apr 2020 #31
Many truly go into medicine to help alleviate human suffering. To now be so helpless in the face JudyM Apr 2020 #32
Heartbreaking, what a tragic loss. wendyb-NC Apr 2020 #33
Terrible. More terrible is that Trump still isn't doing anything. Pepsidog Apr 2020 #34
I wish that were true. Unfortunately, Captain Clorox's actions have been far worse than inaction. lagomorph777 Apr 2020 #35
OMG. So horrible. They should make Trump go in that ER and see what killed her. SunSeeker Apr 2020 #36
Dr. Lorna M. Breen mahina Apr 2020 #37
This just breaks my heart........ a kennedy Apr 2020 #39
Start The Conspiracy Countdown Clock Devilsun Apr 2020 #40
Devastating! denvine Apr 2020 #44
Trump and enablers feel no pain. nt NCjack Apr 2020 #46
😭 ER & ICU docs go home and cry. Duppers Apr 2020 #48
..... stillcool Apr 2020 #51
Kick and recommend for visibility and respect for the fallen bronxiteforever Apr 2020 #54
PTSD will be a major issue for those on the front line battling this virus just like other wars. nt yaesu Apr 2020 #56
They've given too much as it is wallyworld2 Apr 2020 #57
Shit. Blue Owl Apr 2020 #60
R.I.P. to a hero. dalton99a Apr 2020 #62
This is beyond tragic. 3catwoman3 Apr 2020 #63
This Tragedy is the Beginning McKim Apr 2020 #64
I've been told, ER is a tough gig even in the best of times. paleotn Apr 2020 #65
Very, very mzmolly Apr 2020 #67
Sad still_one Apr 2020 #68
. crickets Apr 2020 #69
This just sucks! It sucks so badly! hamsterjill Apr 2020 #70
More blood on Trump's hands. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Apr 2020 #72
..... Heartstrings Apr 2020 #74
So sad, but not surprising, given doctors have the highest rate of suicide among professions onetexan Apr 2020 #75
excruciating. SleeplessinSoCal Apr 2020 #76
How sad Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2020 #77

Ford_Prefect

(7,901 posts)
38. He is absolutely personally responsible for how many have been infected
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 03:40 PM
Apr 2020

and those who have died. He personally made the decisions to unplug the defensive systems that were in place and fired the experts who could have intervened to avert the scale of this atrocity.

He then interfered with and delayed the response in order to arrange his personal profits from the disaster. Meanwhile his son-in-law was engaging in sanctioned piracy to further line Trump family pockets and enable his patrons.

He deserves the fate of those judged at Nuremberg, and a much shorter rope.

NBachers

(17,120 posts)
52. Even before I read about this, Nuremberg, and Nuremberg punishment, was on my mind.
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 04:36 PM
Apr 2020

Now the punishment is cemented even deeper into my mind.

generalbetrayus

(507 posts)
66. I'm thinking more and more these days of the end of the movie Spartacus where the road is lined
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 07:07 PM
Apr 2020

with slaves being crucified. That seems the most fitting punishment for faux Christian Trump and all his RethugliKlan Christian™ buddies. A rope seems much too quick and kind.

DENVERPOPS

(8,835 posts)
42. Oh PP, it is more than reasonable
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 04:04 PM
Apr 2020

Someone said: he and the RepubliCONS have blood on their hands. Bullshit, it is like all of them are in an olympic sized swimming pool filled with the blood of Americans to be more exacting.......

He and the entire fucking Republican Party and their fucked up voters.

I am saddened by her feeling there was no other way to turn....

I am quite sure this will just be the beginning......sadly.

The Republican Party is doing everything possible to make sure there is a never ending supply of victims for whatever fucked up reasons go thru their tiny pathological minds.......

This entire administration is a horrific nightmare that just never ends, and in fact gets worse every single day......

LisaM

(27,813 posts)
8. Ugh, after seeing some of the depressed doctors on television, this seemed inevitable.
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 02:31 PM
Apr 2020

It's one of the tolls on any battlefield. It's unutterably sad. I'm sorry, so sorry this is happening.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
17. I hold tRump liable for
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 02:44 PM
Apr 2020

all the devastation brought about by this pandemic. Had he taken the "job" seriously, and even appointed someone to read the guidelines left by the previous administration, it could have been mostly avoided. Golf and rallies were so much more important to him. I cry when I see the long lines, waiting for food in various parts of the country. How many mortgages will be foreclosed on? How many cars repossessed? How many marriages will not survive this tension and poverty? TRUMP is the one who is responsible. Instead of hiring unqualified cronies and large donors, he should have hired responsible, qualified people. He will be like a millstone around the necks of the gop who enabled him. If not, he should be. Total disaster. Deepest sympathy to the family of the doctor who had reached the very end of her ability to cope with so much misery. Tragic.

LisaM

(27,813 posts)
22. I know. There's so much that could be different.
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 02:51 PM
Apr 2020

Obviously he is not responsible for the virus itself, but so much surrounding it - the lack of preparation, the lack of proper materials, the dismantling of the pandemic team, the complete misunderstanding of how pandemics work, the refusal to take it seriously, and this notion that he can diagnose and cure things himself, the disconnect from the states, the muddled messages, the narcissism that pervades his response - everything that is an outcome based on these things can be laid at his feet.

And his complete lack of empathy is frightening. More and more, I find my thoughts turning back to Bill Clinton, whose empathy level and ability to express it are higher than most people, let alone most elected officials. And he had the innate ability to combine that with a level head and comprehensive response based on professional expertise and competent advisors. Bill Clinton was not the perfect president, but he probably would have been as close to perfect as you can get for a situation like this.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
26. I completely agree.
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 03:06 PM
Apr 2020

President Obama, or President Carter would have done a much better job, too. Any democratic president would have been light years ahead of this orange clown.

DENVERPOPS

(8,835 posts)
45. Please include
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 04:12 PM
Apr 2020

Obama, Hillary, Jimmy Carter and a few others.......

Trump and his entire Fucked up Republican Party have guaranteed 300+ Million people to have miserable lives from here on.......

My fantasy is a million of the people whose lives have been ruined forever, showing up at the White House and The Republican Congress with hot tar and feathers.......then having those RepubliCONS all being run naked thru the streets of D.C.

LisaM

(27,813 posts)
53. Of course all those people would have been better. No question.
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 04:37 PM
Apr 2020

I am just saying that my thoughts turn increasingly back to the Clinton years.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
10. The body/mind can only take so much.
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 02:36 PM
Apr 2020

Working in the ER, I'm sure she was already overloaded with horrible situations before the virus took hold on the country.

My heart goes out to the family. Such a cruel loss all around.

appalachiablue

(41,146 posts)
13. Tragic to loose such a dedicated medical professional
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 02:37 PM
Apr 2020

How will the pandemic and other crises impact essential medical personnel and other vital occupations in the difficult times ahead.

aggiesal

(8,918 posts)
14. This won't be counted as a Coronavirus death, even though it is in direct correlation ...
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 02:40 PM
Apr 2020

it hurts to read this.

Condolences to all her family, friends and co-workers.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
16. Devastating
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 02:40 PM
Apr 2020

This is sad beyond belief. The trauma these health professionals are experiencing is going to be severe and long lasting. I'm pretty sure this will be a topic of discussion later this week on Doctor Radio, where they've been paying particular attention to this aspect of the pandemic, the wear and tear on health professionals.

ffr

(22,670 posts)
18. I put her suicide upon republicans. They've vilified first responders from day one.
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 02:44 PM
Apr 2020

They're human beings like the rest of us. And when you try to do your job with pride and you get shit on by 62 million drones at the behest of the impeached command-in-chief, it could send people over the top. 'What am I doing this thankless job for anyway. Fuck-it, I'm outta here!'

My heart goes out to Dr. Breen's family. Just heartbreaking!

DENVERPOPS

(8,835 posts)
47. Part of the Triage process
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 04:18 PM
Apr 2020

at every hospital across the country should be matching the patient's name with the State's Political Party Voter Registration list......
The RepubliCON patients should be forced to wear a gown with a large color silkscreened picture of Trump on it........

DENVERPOPS

(8,835 posts)
61. I fear the day
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 05:52 PM
Apr 2020

any Trumphumper gets physical with a health care worker.........

The Trumphumper would not survive the wrath of hell (all of us) descending on them..............

What amazes me, but not really, is the lack of Police intervention at all these confrontations nationwide......They could arrest all these morons for "Unlawful Assembly" & "Civil Disobedience", but they just stand back.......Very Telling if you ask me........

OldBaldy1701E

(5,134 posts)
73. Oh come on now...
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 08:30 AM
Apr 2020

There has been no 'wrath' from anyone yet, what makes you think there will be any over this? You yourself mention that there has been no official actions towards those MAGAts. And, there won't be any other kind either. A society has to have morals and ethics to offer wrath against anything that goes against those beliefs. Look over the history of the past three decades. Do you see any wrath, at least any that could make things change in any meaningful way? Going up against an army and getting one soldier to lower his weapon is not a 'change'... the rest of them are still going to mow everyone down...

Jedi Guy

(3,193 posts)
71. 100% correct. This should serve as a wake-up call.
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 11:53 PM
Apr 2020

I've thought before that the mental health community should be engaged with healthcare workers now to ensure they get the support they need, and start preparing for the tsunami of healthcare professionals who will have PTSD, depression, anxiety, and other trauma-induced mental issues after this is over.

Sadly, given the stigma surrounding mental health in this country, I rather doubt that this will be the first life we lose to suicide as a result of coronavirus. Hell, I doubt that this is the first life we've lost to suicide as a result of coronavirus. It's just the first one I've personally heard of.

I imagine a great many of them are walking wounded who are thinking "I didn't sign up for this," but they're still going to work anyway.

Midnight Writer

(21,768 posts)
24. I saw a Dr. last night on TV saying he has never dealt with so much death.
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 02:56 PM
Apr 2020

He said he had six of his patients die in a single shift, and it goes on day after day.

No breaks, no time to mourn, no chance to rejuvenate your soul, no emotional processing.

We need to support our health care workers, instead of accusing them of stealing PPE "out the back door".

marlakay

(11,476 posts)
55. I also read doctors are saying
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 04:48 PM
Apr 2020

In all their years of being a doctor they have never dealt with anything like it.

The people out protesting, government holding back PPE, I am sure they feel shit on daily.

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
25. This is utterly heartbreaking. I can't imagine the pressure and stress medical workers are under.
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 03:03 PM
Apr 2020

Surrounded by so much death, day in and day out.

May she rest in peace.

Botany

(70,516 posts)
28. Dr. Lorna M. Breen HERO
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 03:07 PM
Apr 2020

Dr. Lorna M. Breen

“She tried to do her job, and it killed her,” he said.

The elder Dr. Breen said his daughter had contracted the coronavirus but had gone back to work after recuperating for about a week and a half. The hospital sent her home again, before her family intervened to bring her to Charlottesville, he said.

Dr. Breen, 49, did not have a history of mental illness, her father said. But he said that when he last spoke with her, she seemed detached, and he could tell something was wrong. She had described to him an onslaught of patients who were dying before they could even be taken out of ambulances.

“She was truly in the trenches of the front line,” he said.

He added: “Make sure she’s praised as a hero, because she was. She’s a casualty just as much as anyone else who has died.”

JudyM

(29,251 posts)
32. Many truly go into medicine to help alleviate human suffering. To now be so helpless in the face
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 03:13 PM
Apr 2020

of fire hydrant pressure emergency after emergency, coupled with realistic dread of catching and spreading it, has got to be profoundly defeating for these kind souls.

May this Scourge of Trump end soon. And may all the caregivers and emergency/medical personnel live to thrive in the near future.

Poor, poor woman, RIP.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
35. I wish that were true. Unfortunately, Captain Clorox's actions have been far worse than inaction.
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 03:27 PM
Apr 2020

Advocating injections of disinfectant, stealing PPE from states, and blocking the WHO test and WHO funding, to name a few. It's deliberate malfeasance.

Devilsun

(201 posts)
40. Start The Conspiracy Countdown Clock
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 03:53 PM
Apr 2020

It's just a matter of time before the crazies on the right use this entirely preventable tragedy to support their conspiracy theories about Covid-19. 😞

Duppers

(28,125 posts)
48. 😭 ER & ICU docs go home and cry.
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 04:18 PM
Apr 2020

As do nurses. Health care providers are suffering so badly...the stress is almost unbearable. And for Dr. Breen, it was.

I'm all the more angry with that slimy narcissist & his ignorant followers. It didn't have to get this bad.



stillcool

(32,626 posts)
51. .....
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 04:22 PM
Apr 2020
The elder Dr. Breen said his daughter had contracted the coronavirus but had gone back to work after recuperating for about a week and a half. The hospital sent her home again, before her family intervened to bring her to Charlottesville, he said.

Dr. Breen, 49, did not have a history of mental illness, her father said. But he said that when he last spoke with her, she seemed detached, and he could tell something was wrong. She had described to him an onslaught of patients who were dying before they could even be taken out of ambulances.

McKim

(2,412 posts)
64. This Tragedy is the Beginning
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 06:29 PM
Apr 2020

This tragedy is the beginning of a massive exodus from the US by doctors and scientists who do not have proper functional works place setting support. Practicing medicine in this country is painful because of insurance company greed. Doctors are not able to practice with a full deck.
We are going to have massive brain drain of our best and brightest. Health Care for All would fix this in part. This election has a lot riding on it! Vote Biden!!! And push him for universal health care.

hamsterjill

(15,222 posts)
70. This just sucks! It sucks so badly!
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 11:24 PM
Apr 2020

The pain she must’ve felt. I’m so sorry that this country let her down. The stupid idiot in charge and all of the ones that enable him.

I’m so sorry for the loss and if I were able, I would give each of her family members a long, hard hug.

It just sucks!

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