Canada mass shooting started with assault on girlfriend

[Omaha Steve]

Source: AP

By ROB GILLIES

TORONTO (AP) — Canada’s worst mass shooting erupted from an argument between the gunman and his girlfriend, who survived the attack, police confirmed Friday.

Royal Canadian Mounted Police Supt. Darren Campbell said the weekend shooting rampage started with an assault by the suspect on his girlfriend and ended with 22 people dead in communities across central and northern Nova Scotia.

“She did manage to escape. That could well have been the catalyst of events,” Campbell said.

Campbell also said they are not discounting that the suspect planned some of the murders.



A woman pays her respects at a roadside memorial in Portapique, Nova Scotia on Thursday, April 23, 2020. Royal Canadian Mounted Police say multiple people are dead after a man who at one point wore a police uniform and drove a mock-up cruiser, went on a murder rampage in Portapique and several other Nova Scotia communities. (Andrew Vaughan/The Canadian Press via AP)


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[turbinetree]

1. To Canada.............

[Miguelito Loveless]

2. Because of course it did...

There is a close correlation between misogyny and these types of shooters.

[Ellen Forradalom]

7. I wish were could name the agent as clearly

in cases of male violence as we do for coronavirus spreaders.

[SharonAnn]

17. Yes, I was expecting that.

[FailureToCommunicate]

3. The SHOOTING was because the guy was able to get a gun, not from arguing with a girlfriend.

[Archae]

5. I'm able to get a gun...

But I will not commit a mass shooting.

I've read from several sources this guy had mental problems, and was self-medicating with alcohol, a lot.

None of these sources have listed though how he got the gun or guns he used, or why he shot people or burned them to death.

[More_Cowbell]

6. And people have fights wth their partners

But don't commit mass murder. The weapons are an issue.

[Stuart G]

8. Yes..the weapons are the issue, were the issue, and will always be the issue.

[yardwork]

11. It's significant that it began with domestic violence.

There seems to be some overlap between abusers and mass killers. If we took the abuse seriously, we might be able to stop the killings.

[PatSeg]

4. What a bizarre and horrific story

So much loss.

[Stuart G]

9. To all those who doubt that the weapons are the issue...Do you know who Charles Whitman is/was?

...Short easy answer. He was the first mass shooter in the U.S.A. Texas Tower 1966..Now, he was mad at his mother and went to the top of a tower and killed 21 people. Just shooting at random at people who walked by.
..Now if he was mad at his mother, he should have killed her, and no one else. But he had a rifle and shot 22 innocent people walking by. Get this part...NO RIFLE...VERY UNLIKELY A MASS KILLING

....Got it? NO Rifle, no....mass shooting. Maybe I should name some more...What is the point of naming more..................There will be more, and more, and more..

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

10. How can people be prevented from getting rifles? n/t

[ManiacJoe]

13. In the USA, the common method is

to enter the disqualifying data into the system used by the NICS background checks. Unfortunately, no all agencies do the data entry like they are supposed to.

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

14. re: "Get this part...NO RIFLE...VERY UNLIKELY A MASS KILLING."

There are 28 mass shootings listed here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_shootings_in_the_United_States#Deadliest_mass_shootings_since_1949
Half did not involve a rifle.

There are other folks out there who want to see handguns heavily restricted. Some want expensive insurance which would stop poor people from ever legally owning a gun. Loads of others want bans on the ever evolving "assault weapons".

The first nine shootings on the list above occurred before we had an NICS. Looking at the other 19 one of the common elements is that the NICS did not stop these shooters from being armed. I could take seriously ideas from the pro-restriction group on mass shootings if they would start by advocating to fix what allows the common failure of the systems we have now.

Over simplified sound bites like "NO Rifle, no....mass shooting" are distractions only.

[dware]

15. Wasn't it civilians with rifles, along with law enforcement

that kept Whitman pinned down while police and an armed civilian climbed the tower to take him down?

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

16. Indeed it was

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Texas_tower_shooting

It was 2 Austin Police officers and a civilian, Allen Crum, that went to the observation deck. Maybe some folks might not consider Crum a civilian because he asked one of the officers to deputize him before they made it to the observation deck.

Several civilians and police officers on the ground fired on the tower in an effort to restrict Whitman's movements and his ability to further target others.

[KitSileya]

12. And I am proven right

In one of the first threads on this horrific event, I bet that the perpetrator was a domestic abuser, and I won that bet. I wish I hadn't. But it is just another in a long string of mass killings that starts with a honor killing in Western cultures. In this instance, the original victim managed to escape. Most often, they don't. And mark my words, this is no less an honor killing than when a father kills his daughter for having a boyfriend, or a backwards village stoning a girl for being raped. White men do honor killings too, and too often they then go on and kill a whole lot of equally innocent strangers. We need to take honor killings seriously in our Western cultures, and we do that by taking domestic violence deadly seriously - domestic violence is the threshold mass killers step over at the beginning of their crimes. They'll always find a weapon, though taking the most deadly out of their hands is a start, but changing our culture to stop teaching men that their self worth is in the possession of a woman, or that they matter more than women, or that they shouldn't show emotions other than anger is the only way forward. We need to teach men to process their emotions, and while feminists are trying to do the work, we need men to step up and raise their sons differently.