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Bernardo de La Paz

(49,013 posts)
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 09:51 AM Mar 2020

Trump privately appeals to Asia and Europe for medical help to fight coronavirus

Source: Guardian

Despite president’s rhetoric that the US would not rely on foreign nations for help, the administration has approached European and Asian partners

...

On Tuesday, Trump spoke by phone with the South Korean president, Moon Jae-in, asking if his country could supply medical equipment.

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“Depending on critical needs, the United States could seek to purchase many of these items in the hundreds of millions with purchases of higher end equipment such as ventilators in the hundreds of thousands,” an email sent to embassies in Europe and Eurasia said.

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On March 18, the Defense One military news site reported that the US air force had quietly flown half a million nasal swabs from Italy to Memphis, where they were distributed around the country.




Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/25/trump-privately-appeals-to-asia-and-europe-for-medical-help-to-fight-coronavirus



tRump is flailing.

He's getting desperate ... while denying supplies on hand to blue states.

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Trump privately appeals to Asia and Europe for medical help to fight coronavirus (Original Post) Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2020 OP
This is somewhat of a big deal Mike 03 Mar 2020 #1
was Italy's arm-twisted? kiri Mar 2020 #7
Italy is the primary manufacturer of the specialized swabs. Nt Fiendish Thingy Mar 2020 #8
The largest producer of swabs in the world is in Lombardy Italy titaniumsalute Mar 2020 #19
swabs in Egypt and Minsk, Belorussia kiri Mar 2020 #30
He ain't too proud to beg foreign leaders to support his political and personal interests. Marcuse Mar 2020 #15
Effing pathetic. Phoenix61 Mar 2020 #2
Trump lacks any understanding of the hard goods economy bucolic_frolic Mar 2020 #3
True, Ma'am The Magistrate Mar 2020 #6
Mr. "I Alone Can Fix America" will be the death of us, and those countries know he's a backstabber ancianita Mar 2020 #4
Trump has made us a supplicant nation. nt SunSeeker Mar 2020 #5
I heard him use that word at yesterdays presser IcyPeas Mar 2020 #27
Yes. And the irony was obviously lost on him. nt SunSeeker Mar 2020 #43
god forbid the equipment was made here... stillcool Mar 2020 #9
Maybe quit calling them names first. gibraltar72 Mar 2020 #10
".... the US air force had quietly flown half a million nasal swabs NCjack Mar 2020 #11
Didn't he just offer to help his buddy on North Korea just a few days ago? rurallib Mar 2020 #12
Cuomo's presser (what I was able to view) this a.m. is encouraging. liberalmuse Mar 2020 #13
Ex husband is Italian and he keeps up on Italian news as his family is still there. He said the iluvtennis Mar 2020 #14
So now we actually are a shipping clerk so a private company can profit off this misery. NBachers Mar 2020 #18
When this is over, I hope the GOP is merely a footnote in history books IronLionZion Mar 2020 #31
As do I. Harker Mar 2020 #44
not from Italian newspaper, but link below may give some leads MFGsunny Mar 2020 #35
Thanks for this post. Very interesting that the article doesn't mention a private US company bought iluvtennis Mar 2020 #37
I found it interesting myself, as article source defenseone is rated as "left" bias. MFGsunny Mar 2020 #38
Found the company in Italy and its USA one. MFGsunny Mar 2020 #40
Thanks for the additional info. I had also read on the Italy side that Copan has USA iluvtennis Mar 2020 #42
Are any of these countries even "partners" anymore after AllyCat Mar 2020 #16
an epic fail can only flail. NRaleighLiberal Mar 2020 #17
...........Refueling in Scotland...... Toorich Mar 2020 #20
Who owns the company that will benefit from overpricing the swabs? Talitha Mar 2020 #21
That's why it is being done so on the quiet. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2020 #22
Agree...they are not telling us what is really going on. Trying to get that Italian newspaper iluvtennis Mar 2020 #28
I have to admit that he's the best President they ever had... world wide wally Mar 2020 #23
Kick bronxiteforever Mar 2020 #24
Trumpettes should be scared. It's their demographic that dies first. scrabblequeen40 Mar 2020 #25
He should ask the ones he called shithole countries. RoadRunner Mar 2020 #26
He's asking foreign countries wanting to turn a profit for himself Thekaspervote Mar 2020 #29
The Italian company is Copan Diagnostics IronLionZion Mar 2020 #32
I also posted some related info here on DU - link is... iluvtennis Mar 2020 #33
This is why Shitler has been so adamant on Governor's sourcing their own supply chains... EarthFirst Mar 2020 #34
If the states have to compete, they bid up the price. More profit for tRump's friend company. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2020 #39
You could cut the irony with a knife! nt BobTheSubgenius Mar 2020 #36
Kick burrowowl Mar 2020 #41

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
1. This is somewhat of a big deal
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 09:55 AM
Mar 2020

Trump doesn't have the personality type that would normally ask others for help, least of all countries he's previously insulted or demeaned.

I agree with the OP that this could well signal desperation. I wish he'd ask China (or Singapore or Hong Kong), since they are experts on this and are currently providing emergency crews with expertise and medical equipment to hard-hit countries like Italy and Spain.

kiri

(795 posts)
7. was Italy's arm-twisted?
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 10:27 AM
Mar 2020

"the US air force had quietly flown half a million nasal swabs from Italy to Memphis"

weird--Italy needs all the help it can get. Why would they give up 500,000 swabs?

kiri

(795 posts)
30. swabs in Egypt and Minsk, Belorussia
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 02:11 PM
Mar 2020

You may have forgotten that Egyptian cotton is not counted in making medical stuff.

Don't blame me! The notion that cotton products from Egypt , Kazakhstan, gogd knows --where we are exempted is idiotic.

<<Nor is Ten million people died during the Depression. The economic fallout is far deadlier than this virus will ever be. #ReopenAmerica cotton made into swabs

Are you claiming that the Putin Belio-rus conglomerate is not aid and abetting the Trump virus threat to the USA?

Marcuse

(7,493 posts)
15. He ain't too proud to beg foreign leaders to support his political and personal interests.
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 11:54 AM
Mar 2020

The call to the Australian PM is even worse than the one to the President of Mexico.


PEÑA NIETO
This what I suggest, Mr. President – let us stop talking about the wall. I have recognized the right of any government to protect its borders as it deems necessary and convenient. But my position has been and will continue to be very firm saying that Mexico cannot pay for that wall.

TRUMP
But you cannot say that to the press. The press is going to go with that and I cannot live with that. You cannot say that to the press because I cannot negotiate under those circumstances.

[link:https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2017/politics/australia-mexico-transcripts/|

Phoenix61

(17,006 posts)
2. Effing pathetic.
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 09:57 AM
Mar 2020

I wonder how much of this global shit show is due to the CDC being scaled back so far. How many counties relied on the US to sound the alarm? Is this just one more way Twitler has destroyed our place in the world?

bucolic_frolic

(43,206 posts)
3. Trump lacks any understanding of the hard goods economy
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 09:58 AM
Mar 2020

Manufacture, distribution, laws, and the government regulatory process. He's totally about PR, entertainment, and glitz.

So he seeks deals that don't exist to solve his own political problems.

The Magistrate

(95,248 posts)
6. True, Ma'am
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 10:19 AM
Mar 2020

He is a real estate speculator and money launderer. Strictly speaking, that is not really 'business'....

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
9. god forbid the equipment was made here...
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 10:49 AM
Mar 2020

this is effed up beyond comprehension. In what world does this shit make sense?

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
11. ".... the US air force had quietly flown half a million nasal swabs
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 11:33 AM
Mar 2020

from Italy to Memphis, where they were distributed around the country."

Trump said the US Gov is not in the purchasing, transport business.

Just another lie.

rurallib

(62,431 posts)
12. Didn't he just offer to help his buddy on North Korea just a few days ago?
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 11:36 AM
Mar 2020

And somebody else also?

Does he even have a clue what is going on?

Gawd Almighty, if he took help from one country and gave it to his bud in North Korea, I would think there would be hell to pay.

liberalmuse

(18,672 posts)
13. Cuomo's presser (what I was able to view) this a.m. is encouraging.
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 11:43 AM
Mar 2020

It appears as though the WH is working with him. I feel a sense of relief. I hope Trump does not crush that today in his own presser.

iluvtennis

(19,864 posts)
14. Ex husband is Italian and he keeps up on Italian news as his family is still there. He said the
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 11:54 AM
Mar 2020

Italian people weren't happy with the sell of the 500K swabs to the US.

He read Italian news reported that a company in Brescia, Italy sold the swabs to a private US company. The article said that the US Air Force plan was used to make the transport because commercial aircraft was unavailable. The article didn't say it, but my ex suspects that the private US company will sell the swabs here for a big profit.

Here is a snippet of article he translated for me, I also included picture of the US Air Force jet with the 13 pallets of swab next to it on the ground at the Italian Air Base.

Through its Active, Reserve, and Air National Guard components, Air Mobility Command stands ready to do everything possible to mitigate the effects of COVID-19 and ensure we continue executing rapid global mobility operations.

Yesterday, as part of a U.S. Department of Health and Human Services-led, whole-of-government effort, AMC transported a shipment of 13 pallets containing 500,000 COVID-19 sampling swabs aboard a 164th Airlift Wing C-17 Globemaster III from Aviano Air Base, Italy, to the Memphis, TN, Air National Guard Base.



p.s. Trying to get a link from my ex of the full Italian newspaper article

IronLionZion

(45,466 posts)
31. When this is over, I hope the GOP is merely a footnote in history books
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 02:12 PM
Mar 2020

of a former political party that has since been disbanded permanently

Harker

(14,027 posts)
44. As do I.
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 11:27 PM
Mar 2020

It seems more likely to me that there's a name change coming.

They've ruined the current one for a very long time.

iluvtennis

(19,864 posts)
37. Thanks for this post. Very interesting that the article doesn't mention a private US company bought
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 06:11 PM
Mar 2020

the swabs.

More info from Italy newspapers is here - https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213172705

MFGsunny

(2,356 posts)
38. I found it interesting myself, as article source defenseone is rated as "left" bias.
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 07:08 PM
Mar 2020

THANKS for other lead from La Repubblica.

MFGsunny

(2,356 posts)
40. Found the company in Italy and its USA one.
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 07:27 PM
Mar 2020

copangroup.com (Italy with company start-up history)

copanusa.com (USA)

Interesting info @ both websites.



Found source from Business Insider

The US Air Force has flown roughly a million coronavirus test swabs to the US from Italy to support domestic testing, Air Mobility Command said Friday.
The US purchased the swabs from Italian company Copan Diagnostics and flew them to the US aboard C-17 Globemaster III cargo aircraft.
There have been two missions so far, both this week, and more are projected for the future.

https://www.businessinsider.com/air-force-flew-coronavirus-test-swabs-to-us-from-italy-2020-3

iluvtennis

(19,864 posts)
42. Thanks for the additional info. I had also read on the Italy side that Copan has USA
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 07:57 PM
Mar 2020

subsidiary.

What's interesting is that Italy hid this the details of the purchase from it's people and US his it from us. My spidey senses go up and tell me something stealthy was going on for them to do all of the hiding.

Thanks for your sleuthing as well.

Toorich

(391 posts)
20. ...........Refueling in Scotland......
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 12:29 PM
Mar 2020

...... at the Mom and Pop gas station/convenience store. Right up the
street from the Tangerine Turd Golf and Country Club, where the flight crew
will pay $1200 each to spend the night.

iluvtennis

(19,864 posts)
28. Agree...they are not telling us what is really going on. Trying to get that Italian newspaper
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 01:38 PM
Mar 2020

article from my ex to see if any mention is made of the private US company.

Thekaspervote

(32,779 posts)
29. He's asking foreign countries wanting to turn a profit for himself
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 01:42 PM
Mar 2020

He knows he won’t make any money by enacting the war powers act here in the US!

Nothing humanitarian about it!!

EarthFirst

(2,901 posts)
34. This is why Shitler has been so adamant on Governor's sourcing their own supply chains...
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 05:17 PM
Mar 2020

...it’s not there for him to offer that states. Period.

The way this has been handled at the federal level is nearing human rights violations.

Criminal.

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