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sabra

(30,404 posts)
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 03:08 PM Mar 2020

Trump: Cuomo 'supposed to be buying his own ventilators'

Source: The Hill

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“He's supposed to be buying his own ventilators,” Trump said.


“We're going to help, but if you think about Governor Cuomo, we're building him four hospitals, we're building him four medical centers. We're working very, very hard for the people of New York.”

He added that Cuomo had the chance to buy 16,000 ventilators in 2015 but didn’t do so.

It is not clear what Trump was talking about, but an opinion piece in the New York Post last week made a similar claim. Trump frequently repeats ideas and arguments he has read in conservative media.

The Hill has reached out to the White House for clarification.

Read more: https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/489275-trump-cuomo-supposed-to-be-buying-his-own-ventilators

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Trump: Cuomo 'supposed to be buying his own ventilators' (Original Post) sabra Mar 2020 OP
we are building HIM janterry Mar 2020 #1
Where are these magical for-sale ventilators, you ghoul, you fuck-wit? RockRaven Mar 2020 #2
I'm just glad that Trump Turbineguy Mar 2020 #3
"It is not clear what Trump was talking about..." LudwigPastorius Mar 2020 #4
Trump is exactly DENVERPOPS Mar 2020 #10
"Trump claimed, without evidence..." LastLiberal in PalmSprings Mar 2020 #11
That's DT BS AGAIN! I don't recall who said this the other day but it was someone who worked for napi21 Mar 2020 #5
Is the claim about 4 hospitals even true? Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2020 #7
Maybe. 4x250 bed field hospitals unc70 Mar 2020 #18
So. Hardly "building" hospitals, and really a single 1,000 bed hospital. Thanks for fact check Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2020 #19
FEMA field hospitals 4 (250 beds) each at Jacob Javits. eilen Mar 2020 #21
Yes. He's referring to the Army Corps of Engineers & FEMA. They are building 4 hosps in the Javits napi21 Mar 2020 #23
But nobody likes your assertion. Igel Mar 2020 #26
WTF........................he really is idiot, and he doesn't even realize it................. turbinetree Mar 2020 #6
Aren't the people of New York also Americans? The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2020 #8
Has anyone noticed that he is totally DENVERPOPS Mar 2020 #13
Let's hope these ventilators become available soon: The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2020 #16
He has prided himself in becoming DENVERPOPS Mar 2020 #14
In donnieland, the United States are each on their own. unblock Mar 2020 #9
There aren't any such Govt owned ventilators. Just like his taxes, nonexistent. Deb Mar 2020 #12
"we're building him four hospitals, we're building him four medical centers" left-of-center2012 Mar 2020 #15
In 3-4 weeks, NY case load will easily be about 100 times larger. US case load Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2020 #20
If Cuomo didn't prepare for this 5 years ago IronLionZion Mar 2020 #17
Trump actually did say ... left-of-center2012 Mar 2020 #22
Five, actually. Igel Mar 2020 #27
What until we say... paleotn Mar 2020 #25
Oh! So my state is supposed to do all this... paleotn Mar 2020 #24
The blue states/cities are the most diverse. radius777 Mar 2020 #28
Exactly right. He's saving ventilators for red states. n/t moonscape Mar 2020 #29
Trump is a fucking Russian shill. Fuck him olddad65 Mar 2020 #30
The Fed government is outbidding the states on equipment MissMillie Mar 2020 #31
Trump is petty and vindictive agalisgv Mar 2020 #32

LudwigPastorius

(9,150 posts)
4. "It is not clear what Trump was talking about..."
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 03:15 PM
Mar 2020

That should be the boilerplate disclaimer on every reported story of a Trump utterance.

DENVERPOPS

(8,835 posts)
10. Trump is exactly
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 03:26 PM
Mar 2020

like the Cold War PRAVDA "news" organization in Russia.......

And per another DU commentary, PUTIN HAS BEEN LYING HIS ASS OFF ABOUT THE CORONA VIRUS IN RUSSIA......

COLOR ME SURPRISED...........

11. "Trump claimed, without evidence..."
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 03:27 PM
Mar 2020

I've been seeing this phrase showing up in a lot of stories.

Since Cuomo is getting attention as a real leader during this pandemic, Fat Donnie has his staff working overtime finding things to tear him down. Trump always seems to always have at his fingertips information that deflects criticism of him to another person, whether it's true or not. His fallback is, "I inherited a mess from the previous administration..."

napi21

(45,806 posts)
5. That's DT BS AGAIN! I don't recall who said this the other day but it was someone who worked for
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 03:16 PM
Mar 2020

the Feds. He said the Fed. Gov't. is the BEST to source & buy supplies like ventilators & masks BECAUSE if each State puts in a order someone has to decide who gets the shipments. If the Feds put the order THEY would get all the items as they're made and THEY can control distribution based upon need.

DT is saying this crap because he's covering up the inefficiencies of HIS ADMIN! They can't seem to do anything competently!

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,002 posts)
19. So. Hardly "building" hospitals, and really a single 1,000 bed hospital. Thanks for fact check
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 04:07 PM
Mar 2020

Seems more like a warehouse of sick people.

eilen

(4,950 posts)
21. FEMA field hospitals 4 (250 beds) each at Jacob Javits.
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 04:12 PM
Mar 2020

NYC has the highest number of cases. More than a 5000 case rise in 2 days.

napi21

(45,806 posts)
23. Yes. He's referring to the Army Corps of Engineers & FEMA. They are building 4 hosps in the Javits
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 04:36 PM
Mar 2020

Center & 3 others on Long Island & that area just north of the City where they had the first huge outbreak. (Sorry I forgot the name of the area)

Igel

(35,317 posts)
26. But nobody likes your assertion.
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 08:13 PM
Mar 2020

We already have people saying that the feds should immediately empty the stockpile for those currently in need--that it's precisely immoral for them to control who gets the distribution based upon need. With the assumption, since those pushing that idea don't cite the swag sent to NY, that nothing's being sent.

As soon as you're in charge of a large area, you have to consider the needs of the entire area. Cuomo can focus on his people, but every other governor would be pissed if he got what he needed and, in two weeks, there's a massive death toll in their states because Cuomo was first in line.

This lesson was brought home to me by a nuclear engineer on an academic committee. The student committee members without vote on it were arguing against a change. But the proposal had to be on the agenda twice for discussion before a vote could be taken in meeting 3. After meeting 1 something happened--the long awaited approval of the students to actually have their vote count. By the time of the vote, half voted against the measure and half-voted in favor. Those that voted against said, "This is bad for the 50 students currently there." And those who voted for said, "Yeah, but my kid brother wants the program that'll result after the change, and there'll be over 100 of them. I'm not voting for 50 grads a year, I'm voting for 100 student-graduates a year. It'll hurt 50, and help 100." Responsibility is sobering, or at least should be. If it's something you can slip right through and let somebody else holding the bag, it's less likely to be sobering.

turbinetree

(24,703 posts)
6. WTF........................he really is idiot, and he doesn't even realize it.................
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 03:18 PM
Mar 2020

he just rants.......................and repeats BS..................and if it is not about him he goes into a meltdown mode.....................and he likes to blame someone else for his failures.....................how does he know that Cuomo could have bought 15,000 ventilators in 2015.......................

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,726 posts)
8. Aren't the people of New York also Americans?
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 03:18 PM
Mar 2020

Isn't the f&cking president supposed to be the president of the United F&cking States? Doesn't the federal f&cking government have an obligation to all Americans regardless of whether the f&cking president likes the governor?

DENVERPOPS

(8,835 posts)
13. Has anyone noticed that he is totally
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 03:30 PM
Mar 2020

ignoring the Blue States calling for his help??????? Washington State, California, New York etc etc.
He is a mean, vengeful, vindictive, sadistical excuse for a sub-human hunk of excement. AND, all the other Republicans that he has surrounded himself with, are exactly the same despicable tripe...........

DENVERPOPS

(8,835 posts)
14. He has prided himself in becoming
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 03:33 PM
Mar 2020

The President of the United Fascist Tyrant Corporations of America........

Everything is "by and for the corporations of America"......

unblock

(52,243 posts)
9. In donnieland, the United States are each on their own.
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 03:19 PM
Mar 2020

Well, at least the blue states are.

Great idea when fighting a virus that knows no borders.

Deb

(3,742 posts)
12. There aren't any such Govt owned ventilators. Just like his taxes, nonexistent.
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 03:28 PM
Mar 2020

Wouldn't doubt he bartered them for "kidneys".

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
15. "we're building him four hospitals, we're building him four medical centers"
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 03:34 PM
Mar 2020

Last edited Tue Mar 24, 2020, 04:34 PM - Edit history (1)

BULLSHIT !

In 3 or 4 weeks a Navy hospital ship may show up in NYC harbor.

Trump said yesterday:
"It'll be 3 or 4 weeks. We're working on it."

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,002 posts)
20. In 3-4 weeks, NY case load will easily be about 100 times larger. US case load
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 04:11 PM
Mar 2020

US case load doubling every 2 1/2 days, growing by 10x every 8 days. Three-four weeks is 21-28 days, call it 24. That's 3 stages of 10x, which is 1000x.

Might be lower if physical distancing and closures effective (complied with) in NY and California and 11 states.

Still, if you stretch out the 10x to every 12 days, that is 100x in 24 days.

That would be 5,000,000 cases in the USA and 2,500,000 in New York state.

IronLionZion

(45,450 posts)
17. If Cuomo didn't prepare for this 5 years ago
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 03:38 PM
Mar 2020

it's Obama's fault. Or Trump deliberately wants to punish blue states and cities

Igel

(35,317 posts)
27. Five, actually.
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 08:15 PM
Mar 2020

It's not a reasonable utterance.

"He could have ordered them 6 weeks ago" would have been.

paleotn

(17,930 posts)
24. Oh! So my state is supposed to do all this...
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 05:23 PM
Mar 2020

Good. No more tax rev for the feds from me. Fuck them.

radius777

(3,635 posts)
28. The blue states/cities are the most diverse.
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 12:06 AM
Mar 2020

The goal of Trumpism is white nationalism.

The more 'dead darkies' the better, from his base's perspective.

IOW, Trump has no political incentive to help, as long as he thinks his rural white base is safe.

MissMillie

(38,560 posts)
31. The Fed government is outbidding the states on equipment
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 09:43 AM
Mar 2020

Our governor said he's been outbid multiple times.

This is a global crisis, and only the Federal government is capable of addressing the issues. (Well, at least they were until the GOP started tearing about the Federal government.)

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