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riversedge

(70,225 posts)
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 12:05 PM Mar 2020

'Release the ventilators!' Gov. Cuomo publicly begs Trump to stop hoarding 20,000 ventilators

Source: raw story






New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo (D) on Tuesday pleaded with the president of the United States to release 20,000 ventilators that have been stockpiled by the federal government.

During his daily pandemic briefing, Cuomo said that New York needs an additional 30,000 ventilators due to the spike in coronavirus cases.

“The federal government has 20,000 ventilators, or thereabouts, in the federal stockpile,” Cuomo explained. “Secretary [Alex Azar] runs an agency called HHS — Health and Human Services. I asked the secretary, ‘Look at the first word in the title of the agency you run. It is health. Your first priority is health. You have 20,000 ventilators in the stockpile. Release the ventilators to New York.'”..........................................

Read more: https://www.rawstory.com/2020/03/release-the-ventilators-gov-cuomo-publicly-begs-trump-to-stop-hoarding-20000-ventilators/



Things are going to get real ugly if Trump hording these life saving machines



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'Release the ventilators!' Gov. Cuomo publicly begs Trump to stop hoarding 20,000 ventilators (Original Post) riversedge Mar 2020 OP
Pence just told fox Watchfoxheadexplodes Mar 2020 #1
Remember FEMA said "Oh yeah we have masks but HHS was handling it underpants Mar 2020 #4
You know what? bluestarone Mar 2020 #5
Need a posse. notdarkyet Mar 2020 #11
There have got to be DENVERPOPS Mar 2020 #22
Just like Puerto Rico, Katrina. Massive dis-organization, dis-information, hoarding and profiteering Evolve Dammit Mar 2020 #24
NYPD azureblue Mar 2020 #42
Isn't New York Democratic? Frustratedlady Mar 2020 #26
Yes, we are (except rural areas which are very red) wnylib Mar 2020 #37
I figured that had something to do with it. Once vindictive, forever vindictive. Frustratedlady Mar 2020 #43
But ... left-of-center2012 Mar 2020 #2
He isn't using the power he has to make factories build BigmanPigman Mar 2020 #3
The DPA has pricing restrictions underpants Mar 2020 #6
Did you see in the Non-republican owned media DENVERPOPS Mar 2020 #30
These cretins need to loook around. Scarsdale Mar 2020 #32
Musk BOUGHT a little over 1000 ventilators... reACTIONary Mar 2020 #40
Sorry, thx for reporting DENVERPOPS Mar 2020 #45
No, I don't have... I have a .... reACTIONary Mar 2020 #47
Like I said, thx for fact checking DENVERPOPS Mar 2020 #49
Wow! BigmanPigman Mar 2020 #48
Now we know why Trump pardoned Blogovich - those respirators are "golden". marble falls Mar 2020 #7
Trump probably heard "Release the Kraken"! jls4561 Mar 2020 #8
I read that a team at the University of Minnesota ..............developed this...... turbinetree Mar 2020 #9
What aren't they jumping on this invention. I've emailed the state of WA KewlKat Mar 2020 #51
The FDA must give approval (grogan) and also the private corporations turbinetree Mar 2020 #52
Trump is saving them for North Korea. Lonestarblue Mar 2020 #10
More like for the American South would be my guess Captain Zero Mar 2020 #17
My guess? Dem2theMax Mar 2020 #23
Are these supplies being horded Scarsdale Mar 2020 #33
Wouldn't be surprised. Dem2theMax Mar 2020 #38
You have to see this: "Trump Refused to Order Coronavirus Supplies Because Big Business Complained" scarletwoman Mar 2020 #12
Trump's diffidence is puzzling? Permanut Mar 2020 #14
Kushner is not as intelligent Scarsdale Mar 2020 #35
The more I see and hear of the Trump's lack of response, the more it seems like it's planned. patphil Mar 2020 #13
I've suspected that it's intentional for weeks now. 2naSalit Mar 2020 #44
May they are being saved for use at Mar a logo when Trump turns it into a concierge hospital. LiberalArkie Mar 2020 #15
Cuomo should send his National Guard troops for a visit... EarthFirst Mar 2020 #16
that's what I thought Captain Zero Mar 2020 #18
He needs to do this. Corgigal Mar 2020 #19
In their defense, do they even know they have them? pazzyanne Mar 2020 #20
I Wonder If They Exist RobinA Mar 2020 #21
These massive secret supplies DENVERPOPS Mar 2020 #34
He's saving them for the red states. docgee Mar 2020 #25
Of course that's funny... but it raises a legitimate question FBaggins Mar 2020 #28
Because they need them right now. mtngirl47 Mar 2020 #36
NY has 25000 cases, next highest state has 3500 cases. docgee Mar 2020 #46
Saving them for his BFF Kim Jung Won. gibraltar72 Mar 2020 #27
I'll bet that's true. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Mar 2020 #55
This is murder. warmfeet Mar 2020 #29
or more precisely DENVERPOPS Mar 2020 #41
NY Votes Blue, not for Trump. degage Mar 2020 #31
Cuomo should take over Trump Tower MacKasey Mar 2020 #39
Trump is no match for Cuomo, radius777 Mar 2020 #50
He says he needs 30,000 IBEWVET Mar 2020 #53
Saving them for the rich. They don't care one bit about us. nt Hotler Mar 2020 #54

underpants

(182,807 posts)
4. Remember FEMA said "Oh yeah we have masks but HHS was handling it
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 12:13 PM
Mar 2020

and no one thought to call them. We were just waiting by the phone but it never rang”

bluestarone

(16,941 posts)
5. You know what?
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 12:13 PM
Mar 2020

If i was Cuomo I would do EXACTLY THAT (get them myself) That would be AWESOME get the sheriff, police and TV cameras and GO GET THEM!!!! SAVE LIVES!!

DENVERPOPS

(8,820 posts)
22. There have got to be
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 01:37 PM
Mar 2020

Last edited Tue Mar 24, 2020, 03:22 PM - Edit history (1)

all kinds of young Iraq/Afganistan combat veterans living in NY city that would LOVE to help out with the "acquisition" of a large number of those ventilators. Hell, the New York National Guard would probably be tickled pink to help out too.........

Someone just needs to tell them where the stuff is being warehoused, and where NY health caregivers need them delivered.
By the time the Feds and Trump even know about it, it will be long over......

You gotta figure, that there are people in both of those groups that have some friend or family member that may have already been diagnosed or are in a high risk group like caregivers.

Truth be known: Trump, D.C.Republican Politicians, and Washington D.C. are probably hoarding them in reserve in case they need them.

I imagine, some time down the line, warehouse after warehouse of a massive amount of medical supplies that we need NOW will be discovered. Thousands of tons of supplies, neatly stacked and ready to be used. You disagree? How about the un-fathomable amount of bottled water found in Puerto Rico a year after the Hurricane??????

This assshole and all his sycophants would love nothing better than NY, California, Washington State and any other Blue State Flounder just like he did with Puerto Rico. Many state governors are not sitting around, but are working night and day to do every last thing they can do without any assistance from the Federal Republican Tyranny.

It is painfully obvious, that this group of Republicans are determined to over rule the experts and call off all precautionary methods that would enable a mass genocide of the seniors/elderly. SERIOUSLY. LOOK AT EVERYTHING THEY ARE DOING AND NOT DOING, AND WHAT THEY ALL ARE SAYING. Any action that may help to slow the crushing peak of this virus so that the health care system can handle the sick and deathly ill is under attack by the ENTIRE administration. The sooner the people recognize this fact, the sooner something will occur to stop the Republicans in their tracks. Yesterday, many of the Washington Republicans had the audacity to say that the Elderly should be happy to be sacraficed for the younger generations as a consolation to the Republicans not doing anything and in fact enabling a mass genocide of an entire segment of our own people.........

His nightly Corona Virus update is nothing but an hour long, self aggrandizing political campaign speech, being paid for by the taxpayers and gladly given to him by the Republican owned mass Media channels........

HEY PEOPLE, WAKE THE FUCK UP.......NOW......

Evolve Dammit

(16,733 posts)
24. Just like Puerto Rico, Katrina. Massive dis-organization, dis-information, hoarding and profiteering
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 01:56 PM
Mar 2020

by corrupt greedy people (usually elected officials or their donors).

azureblue

(2,146 posts)
42. NYPD
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 03:10 PM
Mar 2020

Sheriffs are good but a hundred NYPD cops would work much better. Trump ignores the law. So can Cuomo.

wnylib

(21,466 posts)
37. Yes, we are (except rural areas which are very red)
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 02:55 PM
Mar 2020

Also, NYC is Trump's forner home, before he decided to leave because "They don't like me there "

Trump hates Cuomo for being an outspoken opponent. I have no doubt that Trump wants NY to suffer. He is so filled with hate and vengeance that he cannot see that he is losing a chance to win over some NYers. During 911, even Dems loved Guiliani.

So instead, Trump is showing the nation and the world that he is incapable of real leadership in a crisis, in contrast to Cuomo"s excellent example of it. And Guiliani, too, in the past.

Trump is acting like a 3rd rate fool. Does not even comprehend the word "leadership." Thinks it is all about being a loud-mouthed, vindictive tough guy.

Cuomo would be 10 times the president that Trump is. And Trump hasn't a clue why that is true.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
43. I figured that had something to do with it. Once vindictive, forever vindictive.
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 03:13 PM
Mar 2020

They get a thrill out of payback time. Obama certainly has received his share over a few roasts. Trump never forgets.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
2. But ...
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 12:09 PM
Mar 2020

Trump's been saying lately it's time to lift restrictions and get people back to work.

Got to save the economy.

BigmanPigman

(51,593 posts)
3. He isn't using the power he has to make factories build
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 12:13 PM
Mar 2020

more masks or ventilators or hospitals either. Why????

If he got out and acted like a human being and showed strong, smart, empathetic leadership it would help him win swing voters. He could do the right thing as a POTUS and it would be a huge feather in his cap. What a fucking moron.

DENVERPOPS

(8,820 posts)
30. Did you see in the Non-republican owned media
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 02:28 PM
Mar 2020

Where elon musk of Tesla, Cook? of Apple had tons of masks used in production, (like 10's of Millions) and donated them to the health givers. I can't remember the other company that also donated. And Musk/Tesla has already started manufacturing and turning out ventilators and distributing them across the nation?

Trump has the power to order other major U.S. Manufacturers to start manufacturing masks, gowns, respirators and refused to do it because it will interrupt their Profit streams.

Fuck Trump, all the Republicans in D.C. and all the Trumphumpers.

did you see where Republican politicians are saying to stop all efforts to contain the virus, let it run it's course and the Elderly will just have to "take one" for the good of the Country? HOW FUCKED IS THAT??????????

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
32. These cretins need to loook around.
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 02:44 PM
Mar 2020

Many of the top gop members ARE elderly themselves, including Shit For Brains tRump. I for one, would not feel badly about it at all if it came out that Rand Paul had infected the entire gop while he waited for his test results! They think this only affects democratic voters. Stupid people should not be allowed to congregate, especially gop people.

reACTIONary

(5,770 posts)
40. Musk BOUGHT a little over 1000 ventilators...
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 03:06 PM
Mar 2020

... from China and donated them. He said it would be 8 to 10 weeks before he could manufacture them.

DENVERPOPS

(8,820 posts)
45. Sorry, thx for reporting
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 03:16 PM
Mar 2020

And what about the incredible amount of masks donated by two corporations. One of them was Apple. They had ordered them for their companies manufacturing use and decided to donate a phenominal amount of them to the Health Care providers.

Do you have any specific info on those?????????

reACTIONary

(5,770 posts)
47. No, I don't have... I have a ....
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 08:17 PM
Mar 2020

I have a "fact check" thing about Musk. I think he is an accomplished individual and has a lot of good ideas, but I think there is, and that he encourages, a cult of personality surrounding him. I dislike that, so I go out of my way to fact check claims made by or about him.

DENVERPOPS

(8,820 posts)
49. Like I said, thx for fact checking
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 11:19 PM
Mar 2020

But at least you have to admit that is more than the CEO of General Motors, IBM, and other blue chips are doing.
Not much of a consolation, but we should encourage the ones that help, maybe it will become contagious.....

KewlKat

(5,624 posts)
51. What aren't they jumping on this invention. I've emailed the state of WA
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 05:44 AM
Mar 2020

Several times. I will try to phone someone today.

turbinetree

(24,701 posts)
52. The FDA must give approval (grogan) and also the private corporations
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 08:01 AM
Mar 2020

Just type in Joe Grogan and see what he use to do and who is now part of the FDA and on the idiots team ....................

Lonestarblue

(9,994 posts)
10. Trump is saving them for North Korea.
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 12:42 PM
Mar 2020

Just last week, Trump offered to assist Kim with supplies. So good to know that he values his love fest with Kim more than American lives.

Dem2theMax

(9,651 posts)
23. My guess?
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 01:54 PM
Mar 2020

He's saving them for all of his rich buddies. He can dole them out one by one. For a cost we cannot imagine.

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
12. You have to see this: "Trump Refused to Order Coronavirus Supplies Because Big Business Complained"
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 01:11 PM
Mar 2020
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213162696

President Trump’s reluctance to use the Defense Production Act has been one of the most enduring mysteries of the coronavirus epidemic. The Defense Production Act is a 1950 law allowing the federal government to redirect vital industry for use in a crisis (primarily a war, but an epidemic would also do). Hospitals are desperately short of ventilators and respirators, and governors, doctors, and public-health officials have begged Trump to invoke the act to direct emergency production before hospital staff gets infected and patients begin dying.

Trump’s diffidence is puzzling, given his normal tendency to push presidential authority to, or well past, its constitutional limits. This is a president who claimed national-security powers to slap tariffs on steel from Canada and Mexico, and to build a border fence.

The New York Times resolves the mystery. Trump has refused to invoke the act because big business doesn’t want him to. “The U.S. Chamber of Commerce and the heads of major corporations have lobbied the administration against using the act,” the Times reports. “They say the move could prove counterproductive, imposing red tape on companies precisely when they need flexibility to deal with closed borders and shuttered factories.” Trump, Lawrence Kudlow, and Jared Kushner all reportedly found these arguments persuasive.

Of course, persuading that troika does not necessarily require a solid factual basis. Kudlow is a fanatical adherent of supply-side economics whose career of wrongness has been sustained by a willingness to advance the narrow interests of the superrich. Kushner is a dilettante heir to his father’s shady construction empire. Trump is … also that, but less intelligent than Kushner.

Read more: https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/03/defense-production-act-coronavirus-trump-respirators-masks-ventilators.html

Permanut

(5,608 posts)
14. Trump's diffidence is puzzling?
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 01:21 PM
Mar 2020

Really? Puzzling to whom? Not puzzling at all, considering he's a malignant narcissistic sociopath. It's what they do.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
35. Kushner is not as intelligent
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 02:49 PM
Mar 2020

as tRump thinks. He failed to pass the exams to get into Harvard. His daddy had to donate a few million $$$ to make Jared "intelligent" enough to be accepted.

patphil

(6,177 posts)
13. The more I see and hear of the Trump's lack of response, the more it seems like it's planned.
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 01:13 PM
Mar 2020

His reluctance to do all he can to help cope with this emergency is very disturbing.
Is he trying to push the nation over the edge so he can declare martial law and cancel the election?
Or is he just so totally brain-fucked that he is unable to make decisions that would help get us out of this mess.

EarthFirst

(2,900 posts)
16. Cuomo should send his National Guard troops for a visit...
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 01:22 PM
Mar 2020

Walk right in like they own the place and take them.

There’s a new ‘free market’ in town...

RobinA

(9,893 posts)
21. I Wonder If They Exist
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 01:33 PM
Mar 2020

Has anyone seen them or heard from a reputable source who's seen them lately that they there? Maybe they are with the virus tests that we have plenty of. Vaporware, so to speak.

DENVERPOPS

(8,820 posts)
34. These massive secret supplies
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 02:47 PM
Mar 2020

of Medical gear do actually exist in countless warehouses spread out across the nation. I know this as a fact......not speculation......

HEY PEOPLE, WAKE THE FUCK UP......BUSH DID NOTHING FOR KATRINA, TRUMP DID LESS THAN NOTHING FOR PUERTO RICO, AND NOW HE IS DOING NOTHING, PARTICULARLY ZERO TO ASSIST NEW YORK, WASHINGTON STATE, CALIFORNIA AND OTHER "BLUE" STATES.

THE REPUBLICANS DON'T NEED TO CONTINUE WORKING TOWARDS A CORPORATE FASCIST TYRANNY, WE ARE ALREADY THE FUCK THERE.........

FBaggins

(26,739 posts)
28. Of course that's funny... but it raises a legitimate question
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 02:24 PM
Mar 2020

Is there some reason that New York should get ALL of a federal emergency backup resource?

mtngirl47

(989 posts)
36. Because they need them right now.
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 02:52 PM
Mar 2020

Because they are our fellow Americans and they need them right now.

They should go where they are needed and we should manufacture more and then we move them to where they are needed.

55. I'll bet that's true.
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 04:56 PM
Mar 2020

At some time in the future we'll learn that all 20,000 ventilators were sent to N. Korea "as a symbol of goodwill."

And the MAGAts will buy it. Better their parents and children die than piss off Trump's dictator BFF.

DENVERPOPS

(8,820 posts)
41. or more precisely
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 03:09 PM
Mar 2020

it has the potential of the world's greatest Elderly/Senior genocide.

PEOPLE, WAKE THE FUCK UP. When your mothers, fathers, grand mothers, grand fathers, brothers, sisters, cousins, best friends start croaking right and left it will be too late.......

Look at the daily tally sheet of worldwide/U.S. statistics that John Hopkins up dates every day and compare the day to day increases.
In the last TWENTY FOUR HOURS, THE DEATH TOLL has increased by FIFTEEN FUCKING PERCENT. In ONE fucking day, people.
This is not chicken little running around saying: "the sky is falling, the sky is falling"
At best, the cocooning will not STOP the Virus, but delay it enough so people can be treated if they become infected...The EXPERTS are saying it will take 12-18 months to make a vaccine, and who knows how long to produce it in mass quantities for the world population and inoculate everyone. I don't know why the fuck anyone even listens to Trump and The Republican Politicians. A few days ago he got on national TV and told everyone to take a drug not even intended for use in preventing the Virus. The Medical/Scientific community said "NO FUCKING WAY", it will literally kill otherwise healthy people. The result is that the Pharmaceutical company that makes the drug has soaring profits, the people who need the drug for it's intended purpose can't get it. AND NOW, Trumphumpers that took Trump's word ARE NOW DYING FROM HAVING TAKEN IT. And it makes me wonder, who the fucking doctors are who are prescribing it for all these hundreds of thousands of lunatic followers of Trump. Even with the shortage of Doctors, they should immediately pull their medical licenses, and send them to prison for Murder.


If you read their figures, you will quickly realize why the CDC and WHO have been screaming at the top of their lungs for going on three months now.

I have to note that Colorado Springs, which is about as red as red can be, PREACHED the Trump/Republican mantra that it was nothing, merely a bad cold, etc etc etc. No testing, no bans, no quarantines, etc. ONE elderly woman went to a multi day bridge tournament for days and days. A high percentage of the participants were the elderly. JUST LOOK AT THE FIGURES IN "EL PASO" COUNTY SINCE SHE WAS DIAGNOSED AND DIED TO SEE JUST HOW VIRULENT THIS VIRUS IS.......IF THAT DOESN'T SCARE THE LIVING SHIT OUT OF YOU, NOTHING WILL....................

 

degage

(103 posts)
31. NY Votes Blue, not for Trump.
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 02:28 PM
Mar 2020

He doesn't give a shit about NY or NYC, because they don't vote for him. In fact, he's probably enjoying screwing them over.

MacKasey

(986 posts)
39. Cuomo should take over Trump Tower
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 03:04 PM
Mar 2020

And Jersey Gov Phil Murphy should go after the golf course in Bedimester

radius777

(3,635 posts)
50. Trump is no match for Cuomo,
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 11:21 PM
Mar 2020

who is tough, smart and empathetic - exactly what a president should be in a crisis.

The contrast of our big blue state governors (Cuomo, Newsome, Pritzker) and Trump is not good for Trump - who is a bumbling idiot compared to these fine executives.

IBEWVET

(217 posts)
53. He says he needs 30,000
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 11:57 AM
Mar 2020

There are only 20,000, so he wants them all, go to hell Washington and California and Louisiana, nice to have empathy for other states

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