Avoid taking ibuprofen for COVID-19 symptoms: WHO

[turbinetree]

Source: Raw Story

Published 10 mins ago on March 17, 2020
By Agence France-Presse

The World Health Organization recommended Tuesday that people suffering COVID-19 symptoms avoid taking ibuprofen, after French officials warned that anti-inflammatory drugs could worsen effects of the virus.

The warning by French Health Minister Olivier Veran followed a recent study in The Lancet medical journal that hypothesised that an enzyme boosted by anti-inflammatory drugs such as ibuprofen could facilitate and worsen COVID-19 infections.

Asked about the study, WHO spokesman Christian Lindmeier told reporters in Geneva the UN health agency’s experts were “looking into this to give further guidance.”

“In the meantime, we recommend using rather paracetamol, and do not use ibuprofen as a self-medication. That’s important,” he said.


Read more: https://www.rawstory.com/2020/03/avoid-taking-ibuprofen-for-covid-19-symptoms-who/

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On trumps team led by a "guy" that believes in the rapture, and he said that it was a Hoax, and that he didn't need the WHO....................

I have to go to another source to get information....................

I can't wish for November 3, 2020 to get here fast enough...................I am trying.................I really am..................

[TeamPooka]

1. No Advil folks.

[woodsprite]

2. Or Motrin.

[MissB]

6. Or aleve

[lagomorph777]

26. Aleve is naproxen.

[jberryhill]

29. Which is an NSAID

It’s the NSAIDs generally

[bucolic_frolic]

3. This has been advised for a couple of days

I find IB reduces swelling more than aspirin or acetominephin or naproxen, I take the IB for swollen muscles. So yes, I could see it's not a good idea to shrink tissue that's swollen for a reason. Odd they don't mention naproxen or aspirin. I never take ascetominophen for the reasons they mention.

[IronLionZion]

4. Coronavirus and ibuprofen: Separating fact from fiction

https://www.bbc.com/news/51929628

Always verify before you share

[lagomorph777]

27. Thank you! Story somewhat overblown. Also, "Paracetemol" is acetaminophen in the USA.

Acetominophen is extremely hepatotoxic - I would never take it. Never understood why doctors love to push that poison.

[jberryhill]

30. Have you ever had a heart condition or high blood pressure?

If you are are like many people taking ACE inhibitors, you can’t take NSAIDs.

[lagomorph777]

32. Acetominophen is an NSAID too. Generally one of the more dangerous ones.

I've been at the vet's office when somebody brought in a cat who they'd given acetominophen to. That cat died a horrible death.

[jberryhill]

34. No it's not

Acetominophen is not an NSAID.

It was the most popular pain reliever in the US prior to making Ibuprofen and Naproxen Sodium available OTC.

Acetaminophen is a pain reliever and fever reduced but is not an anti-inflammatory.

Your statement is simply incorrect.

It is why, in European versions of this statement, they are recommending “paracetamol” which is the EU trade name. Here it is most commonly called “Tylenol” which, I assure you, did not become a well known brand name by killing people.

Pro-tip: don’t give it to cats.

[lagomorph777]

36. I stand corrected. I guess that's why it never worked for me.

And when I learned about the toxicity, I started wondering why it was legal.

[jberryhill]

37. It used to be the go-to pain reliever in this country

You don't want to exceed the dosage or take it for long-term chronic conditions like arthritis - for which NSAIDs are much better since the issue there truly is inflammation itself.

What actually really caused it to lose market dominance was a bizarre episode in the 1980's where some guy wanted to kill his wife, but made it look like a random poisoning event by putting cyanide in Tylenol in stores:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Tylenol_murders

Not only did Tylenol take a nose dive, but it caused a boom in tamper-evident packaging for all kinds of products.

[lagomorph777]

39. Yeah, I remember that, but I had already dropped it at that point.

[flibbitygiblets]

5. Not much tylenol/acetominafen on Amazon right now

Well, there's a bottle that they're charging $35 + $8 shipping for 350 tabs from outside sellers. And you can buy some of the "PM" version that includes diphenhydramine (benadryl active ingredient).

So I got some aspirin.

[CousinIT]

7. Greaaaat. The hoarders got to that, too?

Sheesh.

[AnotherMother4Peace]

8. aspirin?

[ffr]

10. acetaminophen is the ingredient you want for fever relief and Covid-19

Stay clear of Ibuprofen, which is an anti-inflammatory. See above.

[AnotherMother4Peace]

11. I just found an unopened bottle of acetaminophen (100 ct) in my cupboard - yes!

Thanks for your reply. My family is sheltering in place - just had groceries delivered, that was missing acetaminophen because it was out of stock. I did get two nice corned beefs though, which I'm cooking now. Yummm - St. Patrick's dinner.

[ffr]

21. Lucky you.

Now I'm jealous.

[lagomorph777]

33. Acetominophen is also an anti-inflammatory, and hepatotoxic.

[jberryhill]

35. It is not an NSAID

[Maxheader]

9. The first thing my nephrologist told me..

Upon finding out I was ckd..level 4...

Throw all your advil out..use tylenol..

And I've been reading that ibuprofen can cause serious problems..

[Haggis for Breakfast]

12. CKD - level 4 ??

Are you on The List ??

Please take care of yourself.

[Maxheader]

25. .

Chronic kidney disease....

[kimbutgar]

13. I wonder if aspirin is ok?

[AnotherMother4Peace]

14. See #10 above. It looks like acetaminophen is what you want.

I found a brand new bottle in my cupboard that's expired. Hopefully it'll be OK.

[mr_lebowski]

16. Drug expirations for stuff like aspirin and tylenol are a joke ...

Don't even worry about it ...

[colorado_ufo]

23. Wrong on aspirin!

Most meds are OK past the expiration date, but NOT aspirin. It deteriorates. If you doubt me, phone your local pharmacist.

Get rid of expired aspirin!

[mr_lebowski]

24. Deteriorates into a chemical that's harmful to you? what chemical is that?

[ProfessorGAC]

46. Only Part True

The first decomposition releases acetic acid. That's the acid in vinegar. The toxicity level is EXTREMELY high. Otherwise vinegar would have wiped out salad eaters.
It has a very detectable odor. Nearly everyone knows what vinegar smells like.
If aspirin is old, smell the botlle right after opening. If you smell vinegar, don't use it. And even if you do, it's not likely harmful at that point. Just less effective.

[colorado_ufo]

47. Thanks for the information.

Remember that salad vinegar is very dilute, usually only 2 to 5% acidity.

Generic aspirin is super cheap. Get rid of the old stuff.

[ProfessorGAC]

48. An Entire 100 Bottle of Aspirin...

...would release only about 18g of acetic acid. Highly unlikely the entire bottle would totally decompose, but stay with that number.

If you took 2, that would be 360 mg. About the same as a teaspoon of vinegar.
That's 1/15th of the LD50 PER KILOGRAM of body weight. So a 165 pound person would experience 1/1,125th of the 50% lethal dose. And it's a fully oxidized, water soluble chemical so that amount would pass right through you.
It's still not very dangerous, but taking a med that isn't going to work because it's chemically broken just doesn't make sense.

[colorado_ufo]

49. I am always a fan of facts!

Thank you for the information and common-sense suggestion.

[mr_lebowski]

18. Article does a bad job of elaborating, but it mentions NSAID's down a ways ...

Which includes aspirin and naproxen (aleve) as well as ibuprofen ...

[healthnut7]

15. Interesting

I shared the information on Facebook and it was removed.

[mr_lebowski]

17. Try to find it somewhere besides rawstory, they probably banned it ...

Or don't include the link. You may have to refresh the page to get the new message to get accepted.

[BusyBeingBest]

19. I don't know, I do prefer ibuprofen

when I'm feeling crappy, but I'm too chicken not to heed this advice--have no idea if I'm going to be one of the unlucky people who end up with a life-threatening case.

[healthnut7]

20. Software Bug

Facebook was marking legitimate news articles about the virus as a spam. The company is fixing this.

[Jakes Progress]

22. Use better resources than "the internet said so".

Don't turn DU into one of "those" sites.

I don't know any of the people posting. They don't know any of the people posting what they read.

Talk to a doctor.

I guarantee you that I can find a site that says to wave a crystal over your head to cure the virus. It will cite all kinds of things.

Why from raw story and not on the CDC or WHO web site? Come on.

[jberryhill]

31. What sort of crystal?

I’ve been using amethyst, but I’m thinking of changing to rose quartz.

[Jakes Progress]

42. Maybe meth?

[jberryhill]

43. Dang, I picked the wrong week...

[snowybirdie]

28. Always thought

I was at a disadvantage because of NSAID allergy. Ha! Not any more.

[jberryhill]

38. You have a lot of company among people taking ACE inhibitors

I believe there was a whole thread here recently about "Lisonopril Cough", so there are many DUers who can't take ibuprofen anyway.

[moriah]

40. Exactly -- it's easy to say "use Tylenol" at this point -- only people who lose out...

... are the makers of Advil and Nurofen (who strongly came out against this news). Fever can still be adequately treated with correct doses of Tylenol.

But the Lancet article mentioned several other drugs, not so easily substituted. Diabetes medication, for instance. Then the Lancet article mentioned the ACE inhibitors people take causes enhanced reuptake at that receptor. People don't need to stop taking their high blood pressure meds either just because they're afraid of COVID-19, though they are trying to figure out why cardiovascular disease was a higher predictor for mortality than respiratory disease was.

So much is still unknown about the way this virus acts. It may even be impossible to create a retroactive case study of what treatments were given and what outcomes were, but we certainly aren't gonna have concrete information until then -- about either treatments for it, or things that would make it worse.

But one thing that can easily be done, only pissing off the makers of Nurofen, is to recommend Tylenol for now to treat viral-related fevers this year -- within the proper dose guidelines, of course.

[Kablooie]

41. Actually taking any fever reducer is probably not a good idea.

Fever is part of the body's way of fighting a virus. The heat weakens it.
If you are getting too hot it would probably be time to talk to a doctor anyway and let them decide the treatment.

[RealityChik]

45. Experts say ibuprofen threat overblown...

Infectious disease experts say there is no scientific data supporting the claim that ibuprofen worsens COVIDS-19, only anecdotal. Even WHO denying it agreed w/claim by France medical administrator. Are saying the press spreading fake news!

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/03/18/818026613/advice-from-france-to-avoid-ibuprofen-for-covid-19-leaves-experts-baffled

Johns Hopkins Doctor saying Tylenol works better on brain receptors that control fever response. Also, ibuprofen hard on kidneys, so COVID-19 patients who use too much ibuprofen for other ailments lower resistance of kidneys to flush viruses from the body, weakening ability to resist COVID-19.