Obamacare Insurance Mandate Is Struck Down by Federal Appeals Court
Source: New York Times
WASHINGTON A federal appeals court on Wednesday struck down a linchpin of the Affordable Care Act, ruling that the requirement that people have health insurance was unconstitutional. But the appeals panel sent the case back to a federal district court in Texas to determine whether other provisions of the law could continue to exist without the mandate.
The 2-1 decision, by a panel of the United States Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit in New Orleans, left the fate of the nearly decade-old health law in limbo even as medical costs and insurance coverage have become central issues in the presidential race.
The ruling was issued almost exactly a year after Judge Reed OConnor of the Federal District Court in Fort Worth struck down the entire law.
Two of the three judges, Jennifer Walker Elrod, appointed by President George W. Bush in 2007, and Kurt Engelhardt, appointed by President Trump in 2018, wrote the ruling. The third, Carolyn Dineen King, appointed by President Jimmy Carter in 1979, dissented.
Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/18/health/obamacare-unconstitutional-aca.html
Copy of the ruling (PDF) - https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthelper/6610-obamacare-ruling/a6560c9831a0af845a00/optimized/full.pdf#page1
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CNN breaking -
By Dan Berman, Joan Biskupic, Tami Luhby and Ariane de Vogue, CNN
Updated 5:29 PM ET, Wed December 18, 2019
Trump admin changes course on Affordable Care Act
(CNN)A federal appeals court has found the Affordable Care Act's individual mandate unconstitutional, but did not invalidate the entire law, which remains in effect.
The decision by the 5th US Circuit Court of Appeals likely pushes any Supreme Court action on Obamacare until after the 2020 election.
In the case brought by Texas and joined by the Trump administration, which argued the entire law should be thrown out, the panel has told a lower court that it must consider whether the individual mandate can be separated from the rest of the law.
This story is breaking and will be updated.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/18/politics/obamacare-appeal-ruling/index.html
captdemo
(28 posts)The ACA is probably doomed. I wish Biden would admit this and go with Medicare for All. I suspect he'll be the nominee and we really could use health care for all!
cstanleytech
(26,318 posts)health insurance before proposing such a thing.
in2herbs
(2,947 posts)and along with it the political positions of D candidates who have said we need to build/improve the ACA.
I don't think centrism is going to get us health care.
Liberalhammer
(576 posts)Want you to die while making their insurance corporations rich.
aggiesal
(8,923 posts)People are going to die, because you keep voting for (R)'s.
That's all we have to say.
Nothing more, nothing less!
BlueIdaho
(13,582 posts)I am so pissed.
SWBTATTReg
(22,156 posts)which provisions to invalidate, leading to the possible invalidation of the whole thing. Despicable. Especially since it's been the law of the land for some time now.
Ohiogal
(32,050 posts)In most other countries ...
Believe me, I just spent the better part of a year without having health insurance. Nobody needs that kind of fear and uncertainty. We need Universal Health Care NOW.
Backseat Driver
(4,394 posts)Less stress, but the terror is still there when one can't afford all those peripheral supplementals or Medicare deductibles. Thank goodness I've not any serious issues because the deductibles and 20% in Medicare isn't very doable either but would certainly make nasty collectors happy. The robo-calls and solicitations during Open Enrollment were relentless...Get ready, LOL!
John Fante
(3,479 posts)Please proceed, dickheads.
cstanleytech
(26,318 posts)the unconstitutional mandate to carry it that many states have will be next on the chopping block.
thesquanderer
(11,990 posts)The state says you must have insurance in order to get a driver's license. But you are always free to choose not to get insurance and not to get a driver's license. The mandate to get health insurance gives you no choice.
Pantagruel
(2,580 posts)It's possible not to get a license and not to drive but health emergencies happen to everyone. We mandate hospitals must accept everyone in the event of an accident , plague or illness. You can't choose not to be subject to health emergencies, in fact, "just let me die" is probably illegal .
Polybius
(15,472 posts)They didn't force you to get it, you pay a fine if you don't. I did that for two years until I found free insurance.
dware
(12,423 posts)I know most states make it a requirement to get your vehicle registered, but I hadn't heard of not issuing a driver license unless you have insurance.
thesquanderer
(11,990 posts)freepotter
(351 posts)Read your auto insurance policy. The Definitions clearly state that "You" are the insured, not your vehicle. The vehicle is listed so that proper rates can be determined for physical damage coverages and for liability rates. Your vehicle is listed so that you can't swap an expensive car for an old clunker and get physical damage coverage for a cheap rate, or drive a semi for Volkswagen rates. Your auto policy's liability coverage will cover you even if you are driving someone else's auto and are sued. (Former auto insurance underwriter.)
thesquanderer
(11,990 posts)...even if that person does not have auto insurance. So the insurance is attached to the vehicle (and is the responsibility of the owner of that vehicle), rather than to the driver. That is, you as the owner of the vehicle must have insurance to legally put that car on the road, but someone is legally allowed to drive it even if that person, personally, has no auto insurance.
rickford66
(5,528 posts)The driver may be listed on the policy as the main driver or occasional driver. On any of my policies, anyone with a valid license can drive my autos with my permission. They are not required to carry insurance on themselves to drive.
thesquanderer
(11,990 posts)...as to whether they want to own a drivable vehicle or not.
Backseat Driver
(4,394 posts)since the mandate itself was unconstitutional, right...hahaha..., when we have some legislation regarding how we'll ALL get affordable HC before/on the cusp of Medicare? Not even going to consider Advantage plans with those peripheral coverages until things about this hot issue cool off and/or the rules stablize.
ananda
(28,875 posts).. is THE worst court in the USA !!!
catrose
(5,073 posts)The first month he had it, he was diagnosed with cancer. We're currently waiting for lab results to see if he's in remission. And, I guess, to see if he'll still have insurance.
Thank you, gig economy. Thank you, Republicans. I will never forget.
still_one
(92,372 posts)assume it will be appealed to the SC
Roberts will be the deciding vote I suspect
Gee, I guess those Jill Stein supporters who spewed the trash that there was no difference between repukes and Democrats were wrong.
They should hang their heads in shame
captdemo
(28 posts)I'll admit, I always thought that Hillary would make a great president. She certainly would have worked to make sure we had health care.
The Jill Stein supporters will never admit they were wrong.
still_one
(92,372 posts)Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,170 posts)They need to be made extinct.
Nitram
(22,861 posts)mwooldri
(10,303 posts)... changes the tax penalty for not having health insurance to a non zero amount, does it become constitutional again?
pecosbob
(7,542 posts)I recall that the ACA was first pitched by Republicans and the health-care industry as a stop-gap to prevent the adoption of univeral health care as proposed and supported by the Democratic Party since Truman's administration. So in my mind this puts the final nail in the coffin of the for-profit health care industry. The attempt to regulate the industry has been deemed unconstitutional. All that wish to maintain the structure of private health insurance are now on the wrong side of history.
If you still support for-profit health care and private health care insurance you are wrong.
DeminPennswoods
(15,290 posts)to the ACA markets or insurers. The insurance companies have enough data to have figured out how to price their plans by now. Further, I'm not even sure how much the mandate has been or is being enforced.