Trump has filed emergency application at Supreme Court seeking to prevent financial docs held by Deu
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JUST IN: Trump has filed emergency application at Supreme Court seeking to prevent financial docs held by Deutsche Bank and Capital One from being handed over to congressional committees
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I'll look for a news article about this.
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The 2d Circuit decision: "The Committees interests in pursuing their constitutional legislative function is far more significant than ...avoiding the risk of a Chief Executives distraction arising from disclosure of documents reflecting his private financial transactions."
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Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)them?
FiveGoodMen
(20,018 posts)Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)But let's go with "will."
FiveGoodMen
(20,018 posts)Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)If no stay or action to release the returns is made within the next couple weeks. With possible criminal or financial penalties on the firm holding his returns.
ancianita
(36,079 posts)Miguelito Loveless
(4,465 posts)ancianita
(36,079 posts)DENVERPOPS
(8,835 posts)The Republican "installed" majority in the Supreme Court is their "get out of jail free card" for anything and everything...
WASF
cstanleytech
(26,293 posts)Senate as well as have a Democrat in the White House that it will be time to increase SCOTUS to 13 seats and do what Moscow Mitch and the Russian Republicans did and pack the courts with our choices though in this case it needs to be extremely progressive and liberal choices.
ancianita
(36,079 posts)Texin
(2,596 posts)Their appointments are for life. Roberts, Alito, Gorsuch, Kavanaugh are young(ish). Thomas isn't going anywhere at this point either, though he's older.
ancianita
(36,079 posts)NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)RBG
ancianita
(36,079 posts)onenote
(42,714 posts)Last edited Fri Dec 6, 2019, 11:59 PM - Edit history (1)
Even if they have gone to RBG they could go to any other justice after that if she denied it. What typically happens in a situation like this is that the justice assigned to the circuit refers it to the full court.
C Moon
(12,213 posts)ToxMarz
(2,169 posts)And if it ruins him too, all the better
ancianita
(36,079 posts)mahatmakanejeeves
(57,489 posts)Trump has asked #SCOTUS for a stay in the Deutsche Bank/Capital One subpoenas case.
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politicaljunkie41910
(3,335 posts)than that means the rest of us don't either. Correct???
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)wants a Imperial President. We live in interesting times.
FiveGoodMen
(20,018 posts)Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)that gave the Rethugs the White House by Hook or Crook. We are seeing the Federalist Society and the Koch/Walton Heritage Foundations wet dream came true.
KPN
(15,646 posts)jmowreader
(50,559 posts)...if anyone in Congress actually sees Trumps tax returns and business records, hes screwed. A congressmans first allegiance is to his seat. If supporting Trump puts their seat in danger, Trump is going down - and so are the rest of his corrupt family.
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Judi Lynn
(160,545 posts)Updated 2:11 pm CST, Friday, December 6, 2019
Photo: Andrew Harnik, AP
President Donald Trump smiles during a luncheon with members of the United Nations Security Council in the Cabinet Room at the White House in Washington, Thursday, Dec. 5, 2019.
WASHINGTON (AP) President Donald Trump and three of his children asked the Supreme Court on Friday to shield records held by Deutsche Bank and Capital One from House Democrats.
The case from New York is similar to two other cases pending before the justices, a subpoena from the House for Trump's financial records and one from the Manhattan district attorney for his tax returns.
The court already has blocked the House from getting the financial records while it considers what to do with the cases. The district attorney has agreed to hold off enforcing his subpoena until the justices act. A decision on whether to hear the cases could come by mid-December.
Trial judges and appellate panels in all three cases have ruled that the records held by the banks and Trump's accounting firm, Mazars USA, must be turned over.
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https://www.chron.com/news/us/article/Trump-asks-Supreme-Court-to-shield-banking-14887787.php
mahatmakanejeeves
(57,489 posts)AJT
(5,240 posts)global1
(25,253 posts)he doesn't want us to see? Have you violated any laws in your filings? If not - then what is the big deal of making them available?
bluestarone
(16,976 posts)Our ONLY option will be to VOTE the fucker out!
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)All the more reason to release IMMEDIATELY. This is a national emergency.
cstanleytech
(26,293 posts)that he shills about is a fraud and that rather being worth billions he is actually only worth a few paltry million.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Or ouster from office.
jmowreader
(50,559 posts)I think that if you were to apply Generally Accepted Accounting Principles to Trumps financial picture, that bastard would be at least $5 billion in the red.
Trump has the wonderful habit of buying something with 100 percent Other Peoples Money, then crediting the entire value of the item to his personal net worth. Any honest accountant would only put the equity on Trumps books.
BernieBabies
(78 posts)All homeless people may be billions of dollars richer than he.
ClearSky24
(234 posts)What happens if SCOTUS rules in Trump's favor?
mahatmakanejeeves
(57,489 posts)Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)onenote
(42,714 posts)If the SCOTUS doesn't extend the stay, then, he would argue, his case would be moot. I don't agree, but that would be the argument.
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)None of this sounds quite like an "emergency." It just sounds like he is worried his already dwindling chances of re election will exhaust completely if the taxes are released.
onenote
(42,714 posts)It's simply a matter of timeliness.
This request will be granted. How do I know that? Because its not any different than the request made in the Mazars case where the Court granted the request for a stay to allow Trump to file a petition for certiorari (which the Court required on an expedited schedule) and to continue that stay in effect until such time as the Court decides whether to grant the petition for certiorari (which itself wouldn't resolve the case, only allow the appeal to proceed).
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)So what are the chances that the request is not granted? like no chance at all?
ck4829
(35,077 posts)standingtall
(2,785 posts)we will know one way or the other about the Supreme Court. If they side with Trump on this than we will have all the justification we will ever need to reform the Supreme Court once we have the House,Senate and Presidency and if they rule against Trump which they should, because it's pretty clear cut then republicans are going to look even worse defending Trump after he defies a Supreme Court order and he will. I just hope they hurry up and make a decision.
JustAnotherGen
(31,828 posts)leftieNanner
(15,124 posts)Involve third parties holding the documents. So The Orange One may not want them to disclose his financial info, but neither the banks nor the accounting firm will defy the Supreme Court.
Moostache
(9,895 posts)The records to be turned over are NOT in his possession, they are in the bank's...
onenote
(42,714 posts)It will be granted. How can I be so certain?
Because its not any different than the request made in the Mazars case where the Court granted the request for a stay to allow Trump to file a petition for certiorari (which the Court required on an expedited schedule) and to continue that stay in effect until such time as the Court decides whether to grant the petition for certiorari (which itself wouldn't resolve the case, only allow the appeal to proceed)
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)with the legal and constitutional authority that congress has to attain the information. My understanding is there is a lot more precedent for the latter than for the former?
onenote
(42,714 posts)There are a lot of different cases flying around, so its hard to keep them straight. However, as far as I know, the Mazars case arises out of a subpoena issued by the House Oversight Committee to Mazars while the Deutsche Bank/Capital One case arises out of a subpoena issued by the House Intelligence and Financial Service Committees. In both cases, the argument is that the subpoena is in furtherance of legislative function. Indeed, it couldn't be for a criminal investigation since Congress doesn't enforce the law, it makes the law.
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)https://www.npr.org/2019/11/25/782813946/u-s-supreme-court-temporarily-blocks-release-of-trumps-tax-records
So I think you are absolutely right with your conclusion.
onetexan
(13,043 posts)onenote
(42,714 posts)TNNurse
(6,927 posts)I have to think that what he has to hide is massive.
beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)duforsure
(11,885 posts)To call or contact any of the justices, especially Justice Roberts concerning any of the cases they may be involved in, or offered bribes of any kind since he's been in office to them? He has a problem with addiction , and habits , and patterns. It shows his tells.
Evolve Dammit
(16,743 posts)pamdb
(1,332 posts)Just what is the big orange whale so afraid of? Perhaps how indebted he is to Russia?
world wide wally
(21,744 posts)Lol.... I think he meant desperate.
ck4829
(35,077 posts)kacekwl
(7,017 posts)Nancy is nervous.
VMA131Marine
(4,139 posts)rather than be forced to give up his financial information.
Even if nothing criminal is found, they will likely indicate Trump has nowhere near as much income as he claims.
Crabby Appleton
(5,231 posts)Botany
(70,516 posts)n/t