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Botany

(70,559 posts)
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 01:54 PM Sep 2012

Romney Releasing 2011 Taxes At 3 PM, ‘Summary’ Of 1990-2009 Returns

Source: TPM

Mitt Romney will release a copy of his 2011 tax returns at 3 PM Friday as well as a summary of his tax rates -- but not, as requested by Democrats, copies of his actual returns -- for the years 1990 - 2009.

According to the campaign, Romney paid a 14.1% tax rate. Pushing back against speculation from Democrats, most notably Sen. Harry Reid (D-NV), that he paid little to no taxes at some point in his career, Romney's campaign now claims the lowest effective rate he ever paid was 13.66% and that the average across the 20 year period 20.20%.

Read more: http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/romney-releasing-2011-taxes-at-3-pm-summary






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Romney Releasing 2011 Taxes At 3 PM, ‘Summary’ Of 1990-2009 Returns (Original Post) Botany Sep 2012 OP
would bain buy a business based on unaudited financials? unblock Sep 2012 #1
I guess it took them this long to falsify the info. DURHAM D Sep 2012 #2
Stop it. Botany Sep 2012 #8
Yeah! This is hard Hutzpa Sep 2012 #22
it's hard werk, just like Georgie Boy said wordpix Sep 2012 #53
A summary of his tax rates doesn't tell us anything. How much income did he declare each year? yardwork Sep 2012 #3
Wonder if the IRS would allow us to file a "summary" of our tax info next year??? n/t progressivebydesign Sep 2012 #13
Yeah, I'll just summarize. Lessee, net income = $5,000. That's the ticket! yardwork Sep 2012 #20
+1 get the red out Sep 2012 #28
In terms of tax paid - old saying. ....... dipsydoodle Sep 2012 #4
I am feeling like this is just more steam for the loser train that is Mitt Romney... luvspeas Sep 2012 #5
bingo! Botany Sep 2012 #12
+1000, this is not going to quiet us down! Show us the returns, Tax Dodge Mitt! wordpix Sep 2012 #54
Too little too late The Blue Flower Sep 2012 #6
I think hes trying to distract people from the video that got released LOL cstanleytech Sep 2012 #7
The tax issue is only his second-most damaging problem? Who knew? n/t silvershadow Sep 2012 #34
Compared to that video? To borrow from Sarah Palin "You betcha!" cstanleytech Sep 2012 #35
13.66%! most of us pay more than that in payroll taxes alone! unblock Sep 2012 #9
"Summary" - that conveniently leaves out a lot of details. polichick Sep 2012 #10
Summary = BULLSHIT!! And 2011? also BULLSHIT as he's been working on them all this time progressivebydesign Sep 2012 #11
Kind of like Palin's note from her doctor in lieu of actual medical records. tanyev Sep 2012 #49
A summary doesn't mean shit - they can leave out what they choose! GreenTea Sep 2012 #14
Oh hissy boo boo.... What's up with that nonsense? Candidate Romney is such a joke. Harriety Sep 2012 #15
The old saying...The Devil is in the Details! SoapBox Sep 2012 #16
Bogus - A Summary Is Not Acceptable..... global1 Sep 2012 #17
Guess they got all the embarrassing or criminal stuff scrubbed. liberal N proud Sep 2012 #18
Summaries, huh? dlauthor Sep 2012 #19
nice! renate Sep 2012 #43
Haha PD Turk Sep 2012 #48
Ok....then next week it will be Reid's turn.... cbdo2007 Sep 2012 #21
This is another dumbass move from the Romney campaign LynneSin Sep 2012 #23
Definitely he's hiding all his tax info. Asshat. wordpix Sep 2012 #55
Oh, I love it!!! Mitt is, by HIS OWN LOGIC, disqualified for the presidency!!!! Maeve Sep 2012 #24
as Tamron Hall pointed out a bit ago...also releasing this late on a Friday SoapBox Sep 2012 #25
This doesn't qualify as a Friday news dump story. AngryOldDem Sep 2012 #27
More incompetence from Romney. AngryOldDem Sep 2012 #26
Completely bogus, fake summary. kestrel91316 Sep 2012 #29
I can imagine what the IRS would do if people filed summaries instead of proof. appleannie1 Sep 2012 #30
So rtracey Sep 2012 #31
Summary = Something To Hide. Robb Sep 2012 #32
A "summary"? KamaAina Sep 2012 #33
Nixon and the Watergate tapes msedano Sep 2012 #36
Wasn't that also the day he said, murielm99 Sep 2012 #50
"I am not a crook" was a Florida speech msedano Sep 2012 #52
yep and we should believe barbtries Sep 2012 #37
Moocher off the system - takes more than he gives 2Design Sep 2012 #38
Looks like "You People" are going to get more! liberal N proud Sep 2012 #39
So the IRS accepts summaries now? nt valerief Sep 2012 #40
Castellanos NOT IMPRESSED/Politico 7worldtrade Sep 2012 #41
Not good enough. rocktivity Sep 2012 #42
Charity? fun n serious Sep 2012 #44
I call for an IRS audit! n/t fun n serious Sep 2012 #45
Full IRS audit is required. Panasonic Sep 2012 #46
Thank you. fun n serious Sep 2012 #51
Sorry, a summary just will not do. If this is all he is going to release he could have done it nanabugg Sep 2012 #47

unblock

(52,288 posts)
1. would bain buy a business based on unaudited financials?
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 01:56 PM
Sep 2012

"yeah, everything's kosher! what? details? you don't get details! i just said everything's kosher!"

Botany

(70,559 posts)
8. Stop it.
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 02:00 PM
Sep 2012


Mitt is going to release "a summery" of his tax rates ...... no need to release
all the "other stuff."


yardwork

(61,694 posts)
3. A summary of his tax rates doesn't tell us anything. How much income did he declare each year?
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 01:57 PM
Sep 2012

Suppose he says that he paid 15% tax rate each year. 15% of what? If he's hidden most of his "income" by whittling it down to nothing using tax loopholes, bogus "expenses," and other tax dodges, then he's still paying very little in taxes.

Suppose Romney's declared income for 2010 was $10,000.

luvspeas

(1,883 posts)
5. I am feeling like this is just more steam for the loser train that is Mitt Romney...
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 01:58 PM
Sep 2012

Where the hell are the God Damned returns!

Botany

(70,559 posts)
12. bingo!
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 02:05 PM
Sep 2012



the chairman of his campaign committee has quit, his VEEP pick is now spending money to save
his own congressional seat, and other republicans are running from him PDQ.

The Blue Flower

(5,444 posts)
6. Too little too late
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 01:58 PM
Sep 2012

I'm enjoying the smell of desperation, though. I don't remember ever being as entertained or cheered by anything other than my kids over the course of the last couple of weeks.

cstanleytech

(26,315 posts)
7. I think hes trying to distract people from the video that got released LOL
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 02:00 PM
Sep 2012

Its funny because hes counting one thing that was hurting him politically to save his bacon from another thing thats hurting him even worse.

unblock

(52,288 posts)
9. 13.66%! most of us pay more than that in payroll taxes alone!
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 02:02 PM
Sep 2012

counting both the employee and employer share, that is, for a total of 15.3%, up to the cap.

someone making about $1 million/year is paying about 4% in payroll taxes because of the cap on social security taxes.

during this period, rmoney might not have even had that, because it's possible that ALL of his income, at least in some years, came from dividends and capital gains rather than labor income, meaning NONE of it faced payroll taxes.

progressivebydesign

(19,458 posts)
11. Summary = BULLSHIT!! And 2011? also BULLSHIT as he's been working on them all this time
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 02:05 PM
Sep 2012

God. what a crave liar and cheat that man is. Where the fuck are the ENTIRE FUCKING returns??????

Is this his game changer?? lol

GreenTea

(5,154 posts)
14. A summary doesn't mean shit - they can leave out what they choose!
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 02:08 PM
Sep 2012

Show us your full tax returns Mitt - What are you hiding?

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
16. The old saying...The Devil is in the Details!
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 02:10 PM
Sep 2012

...and since they are only releasing a "summary" of taxes for past filings...ya can't help but wonder still, what are you HIDING Mittens?

Those "charitable" donations? Are those the FORCED and REQUIRED "donations" that the Mormons REQUIRE of their members???????

Now I have even more questions than before.

global1

(25,263 posts)
17. Bogus - A Summary Is Not Acceptable.....
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 02:10 PM
Sep 2012

Once a weasel - always a weasel. This should not be tolerated. This should open up even more questions as to why he won't release the actual forms versus just a summary. What are you hiding Mr. Rmoney?

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
23. This is another dumbass move from the Romney campaign
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 02:18 PM
Sep 2012

He thinks the problem is solved showing a summary. To me that just says he really is hiding something. He would be better off just not showing anything.

And yes some freeper types try to equate this with the birth certificate situation that Obama had 4 years ago. But remember this - when asked Obama released the OFFICIAL birth certificate issued by the state of Hawaii. The long form is not the official birth certificate but when the freepers realized they had nothing it was the only way to keep the damn freeper issue alive.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama_citizenship_conspiracy_theories

Maeve

(42,287 posts)
24. Oh, I love it!!! Mitt is, by HIS OWN LOGIC, disqualified for the presidency!!!!
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 02:22 PM
Sep 2012

Remember this? "...frankly if I had paid more than are legally due I don’t think I’d be qualified to become president." and yet he did not claim some of his 'charity" in 2011 so he would pay more taxes and not fall below the 13% level previously set!

The man can't lie straight--he can't even tell the truth straight.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
25. as Tamron Hall pointed out a bit ago...also releasing this late on a Friday
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 02:22 PM
Sep 2012

when it will attrack less attention.

Well Mittens...brace yourself for Monday morning!

AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
26. More incompetence from Romney.
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 02:23 PM
Sep 2012

I guess these documents just got back from the dry cleaners.

Bring 'em on.

 

rtracey

(2,062 posts)
31. So
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 02:28 PM
Sep 2012

So 5 months after the April deadline, you claim 13% tax rate. Something smells here, especially when he had all this time to "shape" his taxes to fit what he wants them to look like. I would not trust any of these statements, show the full forms, not summaries....He is lying about this because I believe in several of his actual tax forms he shows he was not a Massachusetts resident and was not legal to become governor.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
33. A "summary"?
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 02:34 PM
Sep 2012

That's not going to tell us whether he misreported his management fees as a Bain partner as capital gains (15% tax rate vs. 35%). Or how much $$$ he's stashed overseas. It'll look like this:

msedano

(731 posts)
36. Nixon and the Watergate tapes
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 02:39 PM
Sep 2012

Piecemeal. First Nixon sat before the teevee cameras with 3-ring binders with the presidential seal, telling the nation, "this is all the tapes". A few days later, he had to release the tapes themselves. Then the nation heard the conspiracy unfold from the oval office. Haldeman, Erlichman, the top 2 guys in the White House went to jail for it. Along with Dean, who fingered the whole deal.

So today we have Romney's 3-ring binders...

murielm99

(30,754 posts)
50. Wasn't that also the day he said,
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 05:36 PM
Sep 2012

"I am not a crook." I think it was at that same news conference.

I remember sitting there laughing.

msedano

(731 posts)
52. "I am not a crook" was a Florida speech
Sat Sep 22, 2012, 09:19 AM
Sep 2012

the 3-ring binders came with the seriousness of the Oval Office in the background.

I'm waiting for after the election to hear Mitt cry "you won't have Mitt Romney to kick around anymore."

7worldtrade

(85 posts)
41. Castellanos NOT IMPRESSED/Politico
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 02:57 PM
Sep 2012

Castellanos on tax summary: Is this a joke?
By MAGGIE HABERMAN | 9/21/12 2:33 PM EDT
Alex Castellanos, the former Mitt Romney strategist from 2008 who has alternately been critical and praising of the current campaign, left no doubt where he stands on the decision to release a summary of the candidate's tax rates over 20 years.

"At first I thought this was an April Fool's Joke," said Castellanos, who tweeted something to that effect at me earlier. "But it isn't April. I can't imagine that David Axelrod will now say, I'm glad Mitt put this issue behind him. This will drag Mitt's taxes back into the debate. And there's not many days left. I just can't imagine why they would do this. There are 40 days left and you have now made more of them about Mitt's taxes....you don't serve a life sentence and then confess afterward. They've taken their beating on this (already) ... I just don't understand how a (being) 'little pregnant' strategy (works)."

Other Republican operatives have emailed in with a similar reaction - that the summary is going to revive, instead of settle, questions on an issue where what had seemed to be the worst was already behind Romney.

 

fun n serious

(4,451 posts)
44. Charity?
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 03:15 PM
Sep 2012

I don't believe he gave t hat much to charity. He is not a charitable person. He may have gave that much to special interest groups but not to people who need it.

 

Panasonic

(2,921 posts)
46. Full IRS audit is required.
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 03:29 PM
Sep 2012

I don't buy any of Rmoney's claims or taxes.

IRS needs to audit and examine every piece of Rmoney's claim.

If it's deemed to be fraudulent, then seize all of Rmoney's assets and file liens on the offshore accounts.

Then arrest Rmoney for tax evasion.

 

nanabugg

(2,198 posts)
47. Sorry, a summary just will not do. If this is all he is going to release he could have done it
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 03:32 PM
Sep 2012

sooner. But no doubt they needed more time to fix the data.

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