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jpak

(41,758 posts)
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 07:14 AM Oct 2019

US reviewing plans to move nuclear weapons from Incirlik, report says

Source: Stars and Stripes

STUTTGART, Germany — The U.S. is reviewing plans to evacuate tactical nuclear weapons stored at Incirlik Air Base in light of ongoing tensions with Turkey, according to media reports.

The U.S. State and Energy departments were examining plans for potentially moving the weapons, which are roughly 250 miles from the Syrian border, The New York Times reported Monday, citing two unnamed officials.

The U.S. faces a dilemma over what to do with the weapons. Flying them out of Turkey risks further damaging the already troubled relationship with a longtime NATO ally, while keeping the aging weapons in Incirlik would mean leaving them in a country that Defense Secretary Mark Esper warned on Sunday was “spinning out of the Western orbit.”

While not addressing the nuclear issue, Esper said on Fox News that “the arc of (Turkey’s) behavior over the past several years has been terrible.”

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Read more: https://www.stripes.com/news/us-reviewing-plans-to-move-nuclear-weapons-from-incirlik-report-says-1.603116



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US reviewing plans to move nuclear weapons from Incirlik, report says (Original Post) jpak Oct 2019 OP
Ya think??????????????????????????????? n/t MFGsunny Oct 2019 #1
Esper is just as bad as t-rump . . . Iliyah Oct 2019 #2
Gee, maybe this should have been figured out ahead of shit hitting the fan groundloop Oct 2019 #3
Only Moscow Mitch or a majority of the GOP majority in the Senate NCjack Oct 2019 #6
I mean, what could go wrong? Javaman Oct 2019 #4
"We'll just move them to Israel"....they already have 100, what's a few more? Baclava Oct 2019 #5
Russia has wanted this for decades IronLionZion Oct 2019 #7
Should have been spirited away a long time ago. paleotn Oct 2019 #8
Move them to Greece. roamer65 Oct 2019 #9
My hunch is they will go to our bases in Italy LeftInTX Oct 2019 #19
Why are they storing them in another country anyway?! Bayard Oct 2019 #10
DoE is involved because US nuclear weapons are their responsibility. N/T Jedi Guy Oct 2019 #11
Forward deployment MosheFeingold Oct 2019 #13
There is the Ukraine to and if we put a few bases there it might deter Russia. cstanleytech Oct 2019 #15
Ha MosheFeingold Oct 2019 #17
I'm not talking about the nukes rather putting some armored troops as well as maybe cstanleytech Oct 2019 #18
It's on a joint USAF base in Turkey. LeftInTX Oct 2019 #16
At least disassemble and remove the big component: dalton99a Oct 2019 #12
Who knew Trump would go THIS far Blue_Tires Oct 2019 #14
Yeah, who knew? marybourg Oct 2019 #20
Why is this not THE lead story on every network Miguelito Loveless Oct 2019 #21
I'm smiling too Polybius Oct 2019 #22
Reviewing? WTF Historic NY Oct 2019 #23

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
2. Esper is just as bad as t-rump . . .
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 08:05 AM
Oct 2019

I fear for the safety of the USA and the world. These so called "Christians" are gearing up for "end days".

groundloop

(11,519 posts)
3. Gee, maybe this should have been figured out ahead of shit hitting the fan
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 08:20 AM
Oct 2019

tRump is such a fucking idiot, he has no clue what consequences his impulsive action have.

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
6. Only Moscow Mitch or a majority of the GOP majority in the Senate
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 08:54 AM
Oct 2019

can stop this madness. But, their jobs are more important to them than the safety of USA.

 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
5. "We'll just move them to Israel"....they already have 100, what's a few more?
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 08:52 AM
Oct 2019

Just a gut feeling

IronLionZion

(45,455 posts)
7. Russia has wanted this for decades
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 09:19 AM
Oct 2019

During the Cuban missile crisis, the Soviets claimed since the US had nukes in Turkey, the Soviet Union can keep nukes in Cuba.

paleotn

(17,931 posts)
8. Should have been spirited away a long time ago.
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 09:23 AM
Oct 2019

Turkey is and has never been Germany or Great Britain. I know the geography, but it's still too unstable to risk storing nuclear weapons there.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
9. Move them to Greece.
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 09:57 AM
Oct 2019

Start vacating Incirlik and other bases and move it all to Greece.

The Greeks will appreciate it.

LeftInTX

(25,376 posts)
19. My hunch is they will go to our bases in Italy
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 12:04 PM
Oct 2019

We don't have bases in Greece.

I don't think Greece wants our nukes. (Based on historical relations)

Bayard

(22,099 posts)
10. Why are they storing them in another country anyway?!
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 10:36 AM
Oct 2019

That's stupid as hell. You never know when circumstances are going to change in a heartbeat--like now. These will be going directly to Russia. Maybe that was the plan all along.

And why is the ENERGY dept involved for gawd sakes? This is a military situation. Don't care if it hurts Turkey's feelings, get those nukes and our people out of there NOW!

Sanctions? That's the only thing tRump can come up with, after he completely screwed the pooch?

MosheFeingold

(3,051 posts)
13. Forward deployment
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 11:06 AM
Oct 2019

Is normal and necessary in a war-preparedness footing.

We learned not to put all our eggs in one basket one quiet Sunday morning of December 7, 1941 in Hawaii.

That said, there are other locations to move the weapons to keep Putin in his cage.

Poland, for example.

Yes, Israel.

And a host of other former Soviet satellite countries.

Ergodon has delusions of reforming the Ottoman Empire and the Caliphate. He's not our friend.

MosheFeingold

(3,051 posts)
17. Ha
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 11:46 AM
Oct 2019

Maybe.

Not sure if I trust them any more than Ergodan.

And there is such a things as "too forward" for forward deployment.

LeftInTX

(25,376 posts)
16. It's on a joint USAF base in Turkey.
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 11:41 AM
Oct 2019

Our nuclear missiles have been there since the early 60s. They were removed as part of the agreement with the USSR during the Cuban Missile Crisis, but the bombs came back a few years later.
It's a cold war remnant. We wanted to remove them in 2005, but NATO didn't want it. Then there was talk in 2016, but we decided to keep them because of Iran.

We also have nukes in other countries:



https://www.incirlik.af.mil/About-Us/Fact-Sheets/

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
14. Who knew Trump would go THIS far
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 11:17 AM
Oct 2019

just to keep a hotel or golf course or clothing line or whatever the hell commercial properties he has in Turkey

Historic NY

(37,451 posts)
23. Reviewing? WTF
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 01:57 PM
Oct 2019

there should have been one already in place. They should have been removed when the unrest in Turkey started .

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