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BumRushDaShow

(129,096 posts)
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 06:51 PM Oct 2019

Trump's Justice Department Asks Judge to Block Subpoena for His Tax Returns

Source: New York Times

The Justice Department on Wednesday asked a federal judge to temporarily block a subpoena from the Manhattan district attorney that would require President Trump to turn over eight years of his personal and corporate tax returns. Mr. Trump has been fighting off an attempt by the office of the Manhattan district attorney, Cyrus R. Vance Jr., to obtain his tax returns as it investigates hush-money payments made to the pornographic film actress Stormy Daniels.

After the subpoena was sent in late August, Mr. Trump’s lawyers made a sweeping — and untested — argument that a sitting president cannot be subjected to a criminal investigation, especially by local prosecutors. In its filing, Mr. Trump’s own Justice Department did not say whether it agreed with his position that presidents cannot be investigated. But citing “significant constitutional issues” raised by the president’s lawyers, the department said the court should stop enforcement of the subpoena while it takes time to consider the case.

The Justice Department is not part of the case but had told the judge it wanted to offer an opinion because of the importance of the constitutional questions. The department’s lawyers argued in the filing that a delay would not hurt Mr. Vance’s investigation but would prevent the “irreparable harm” they argued the president would suffer if he had to comply with the demand to turn over his tax returns and other financial information before his case was considered.

A spokesman for Mr. Vance could not immediately be reached for comment.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/02/nyregion/trump-taxes-lawsuit.html

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Trump's Justice Department Asks Judge to Block Subpoena for His Tax Returns (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Oct 2019 OP
Who knew back in Nov. 2016 that we were voting on making a god? sinkingfeeling Oct 2019 #1
Who knew Corgigal Oct 2019 #6
I want the judge to tell them to fuck off, they have no standing. n/t eggplant Oct 2019 #2
They must be really, really, bigly, incriminatingly bad Evolve Dammit Oct 2019 #3
Barr's "justice" department has been turned into trump's personal legal department. PSPS Oct 2019 #4
Hopefully the judge tosses this out as there is nothing that prevents a state in the cstanleytech Oct 2019 #5
This is the stench of desperation. MFGsunny Oct 2019 #7
So How Does The Justice Department Have Standing DallasNE Oct 2019 #8
i expect they don't BumRushDaShow Oct 2019 #9
We don't have a Justice Department anymore. BlueIdaho Oct 2019 #10
True: DOJ is operating under a very low Barr Hal Zerozerozeronine Oct 2019 #13
Trump's Justice Department ... just says it all... no justice, just Trump NotHardly Oct 2019 #11
Clinton v Jones is the federal precedent DeminPennswoods Oct 2019 #12
Yup which is also why that case BumRushDaShow Oct 2019 #14
Email TRMS and ask if she'd do an update DeminPennswoods Oct 2019 #16
Now if he'd just wear "GUILTY AF" T-shirts? Brainfodder Oct 2019 #15
Judge should rule that AG has no standing. yellowcanine Oct 2019 #17
The D OJ gave it away. Delmette2.0 Oct 2019 #18
So now Billy Barr is Trump's personal attorney? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2019 #19

cstanleytech

(26,295 posts)
5. Hopefully the judge tosses this out as there is nothing that prevents a state in the
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 09:03 PM
Oct 2019

the Constitution from conducting an investigation over the actions by a sitting President.

MFGsunny

(2,356 posts)
7. This is the stench of desperation.
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 09:51 PM
Oct 2019

Beyond the judicial and legal whoring around by DOJ, it also tinkles me off no end that it's such a waste of OUR taxpayer dollars, all going down the MF45 shitzitter.

/rant

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
8. So How Does The Justice Department Have Standing
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 10:13 PM
Oct 2019

In this particular law suit? And why are the taxpayers picking up the tab for DOJ lawyers.

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
10. We don't have a Justice Department anymore.
Wed Oct 2, 2019, 10:47 PM
Oct 2019

Just a bunch of mobbed up made men swinging their dicks around.

NotHardly

(1,062 posts)
11. Trump's Justice Department ... just says it all... no justice, just Trump
Thu Oct 3, 2019, 05:58 AM
Oct 2019
If decency and democrats take back this country in 2020, I wonder how long it will be that all the agencies under the auspices of the current AG will take to begin to regain some of their dignity, integrity, and trust by the American people. They have all been such weak kneed tools to and for Trump ... Dept of Justice my rear-end, none of the agencies under Barr have been spared the mudding of this horrible last 3 years.

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
12. Clinton v Jones is the federal precedent
Thu Oct 3, 2019, 06:38 AM
Oct 2019

The US Supreme Court ruled in that case that a sitting president can be sued for acts he (or she) committed before becoming president. This would apply to Trump since most of these acts occurred before Nov 2016. 8 years of tax returns would cover 2010-2018.

BumRushDaShow

(129,096 posts)
14. Yup which is also why that case
Thu Oct 3, 2019, 07:55 AM
Oct 2019

involving the protesters and an incident in 2015 between themselves and Drumpf's security detail, has been moving forward.

But here is an example of the media preferring to chase debunked GOP conspiracy theories and not follow up on some of these active cases (it's been difficult finding any updates on that case since the end of September and the supposed jury seating on the 26th).

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
16. Email TRMS and ask if she'd do an update
Thu Oct 3, 2019, 11:07 AM
Oct 2019

Maddow covers a lot of the lawsuits. I suppose Melber might want to delve into that case, too, since he's MSNBC's legal beagle.

Delmette2.0

(4,166 posts)
18. The D OJ gave it away.
Thu Oct 3, 2019, 12:27 PM
Oct 2019

"irreparable harm” to the president. The pResident is hiding a lot of something and they are helping.

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