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lanlady

(7,134 posts)
Mon Aug 26, 2019, 09:10 PM Aug 2019

Investigators scrutinizing video outside Epstein's cell find some footage unusable

Source: Washington Post

At least one camera in the hallway outside the cell where authorities say registered sex offender Jeffrey Epstein hanged himself earlier this month had footage that is unusable, although other, clearer footage was captured in the area, according to three people briefed on the evidence gathered earlier this month.

It was not immediately clear why some video footage outside Epstein’s cell is too flawed for investigators to use or what is visible in the usable footage. The incident is being investigated by the FBI and the Justice Department’s inspector general’s office, which are attempting to determine what happened and how to assess whether any policies were violated or crimes committed.

The footage is considered critical to those inquiries, and the revelation of an unusable recording is yet another of the apparent failures inside the Metropolitan Correctional Center, the short-staffed Bureau of Prisons facility in downtown Manhattan that held Epstein.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/investigators-scrutinizing-video-outside-epsteins-cell-find-some-footage-unusable-according-to-people-familiar-with-the-inquiry/2019/08/26/df405636-c827-11e9-a4f3-c081a126de70_story.html?arc404=true

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Investigators scrutinizing video outside Epstein's cell find some footage unusable (Original Post) lanlady Aug 2019 OP
Of course it's unusable. LisaL Aug 2019 #1
Next we'll find out lanlady Aug 2019 #3
Well, that's a big surprise. rzemanfl Aug 2019 #2
I am shocked - shocked - to find that gambling is going on in here! RockRaven Aug 2019 #4
Nothing to see here... move along. klook Aug 2019 #5
The gap in the Nixon tapes? safeinOhio Aug 2019 #6
And both guards just happened to fall asleep @ .. Botany Aug 2019 #7
And his roommate was removed and not replaced, even though he was supposed LisaL Aug 2019 #9
I'm just happy the FBI is investigating. ThreeDimensional Aug 2019 #8
I don't trust the FBI as much as you do. n/t. Scruffy1 Aug 2019 #13
Man, it's like EVERYTHING went wrong at just the right time, huh? Grokenstein Aug 2019 #10
Coincidence, I am sure. LisaL Aug 2019 #11
You don't say... EarthFirst Aug 2019 #12
Get off your conspiracy high horse Doug.Goodall Aug 2019 #16
And the guy who repaired the camera dying in that freak accident next week, too. eggplant Aug 2019 #14
The buck stops with Barr. NBachers Aug 2019 #15
Starts with Barr, too. Kid Berwyn Aug 2019 #22
How Many Others? SayItLoud Aug 2019 #17
Only one other suicide and 3 attempts in the last 40 years at MCC Arazi Aug 2019 #19
It's perfectly feasible that the camera was not operating properly amcgrath Aug 2019 #18
Because some things seem orchestrated doesn't mean all things must have been. ThreeDimensional Aug 2019 #21
The missing footage may have been Barr's secret visit to Epstein. Just conjecture. Firestorm49 Aug 2019 #20
Really? Color me shocked. matt819 Aug 2019 #23

RockRaven

(14,974 posts)
4. I am shocked - shocked - to find that gambling is going on in here!
Mon Aug 26, 2019, 09:25 PM
Aug 2019

Even without a giant conspiracy... if everything else about the MCC was f-ed up, of course this would be too. SMH.

Botany

(70,516 posts)
7. And both guards just happened to fall asleep @ ..
Mon Aug 26, 2019, 09:46 PM
Aug 2019

... the same time, Epstein is alleged to have used Trump's plane for trafficking, and Trump was on Epstein's plane years after Trump said he had no contact with Jeff.

The dude was whacked. Or that is how I see it.

 

ThreeDimensional

(11 posts)
8. I'm just happy the FBI is investigating.
Mon Aug 26, 2019, 10:01 PM
Aug 2019

I'm happy that it wasn't just left with the coroner's report, which I suppose could have happened.

I don't think I'll ever trust that he wasn't murdered, though.

Doug.Goodall

(1,241 posts)
16. Get off your conspiracy high horse
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 06:09 AM
Aug 2019

Everybody knows it is just a coincidence that all the coincidences just happened coincidentally at the same time.

SayItLoud

(1,702 posts)
17. How Many Others?
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 08:19 AM
Aug 2019

Have committed suicide in this facility in the last 24 months?

Never have heard the number. Is Epstein one of a few, many or the only?

amcgrath

(397 posts)
18. It's perfectly feasible that the camera was not operating properly
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 08:23 AM
Aug 2019

All genuine errors are just that. An unexpected outcome due to chance or something done mistakenly.

What is not feasible, is that every single error made - from Epstein living the way he did to dying the way he did - is advantageous to one side only.

Every chance event, every error worked not to expose him - or the organization behind him - but to cover their tracks.

This is the same as the sex scandal in the UK, or in the various churches around the world. Every single error benefits the rich and powerful. Every mistake benefits intelligence agencies.

I have no opinion on Epsteins death. But I know that the simple mathematics of error or chance means that the consistently beneficial outcomes cannot be the result of simple luck.

 

ThreeDimensional

(11 posts)
21. Because some things seem orchestrated doesn't mean all things must have been.
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 02:02 PM
Aug 2019

The article says that other, clearer footage was captured. It could be that the footage that was captured shows Epstein clearly being murdered and they just didn't tell us that because the investigation isn't over and they don't want to tip their hand.

Why did they tell us that one camera wasn't working without revealing what the other cameras that were working showed? I expected they watched all of the footage before revealing the one bit of information about the broken camera. Why mention the broken camera at all, to anyone? Why did the source say only that? Why does the source know that, but not what the other cameras showed, if that is why?

What isn't said in these things is often more telling than what is said.

matt819

(10,749 posts)
23. Really? Color me shocked.
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 02:20 PM
Aug 2019

I can't believe that.

Key footage right outside his cell is unusable? And it's critical, you say? And it's not usable? Hmmm. . . . There's gotta be a good explanation for this, and I'm sure many high-level meetings will be held to come up with it. And Barr will announce it and say it was not really that critical after all, but some GS-7 will be reassigned to the low security FCI in Yazoo City, Mississippi.

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