TENNESSEE LAWMAKERS CONSIDER BANNING ABORTION ONCE A WOMAN KNOWS SHE'S PREGNANT
Source: Newsweek
BY ALEXANDRA HUTZLER ON 8/12/19 AT 3:29 PM EDT
Tennessee lawmakers are considering a total ban on abortion by cutting off access to the procedure once a woman knows she's pregnant. If the legislation is passed, it will be one of the most restrictive abortion laws in the United States.
State senators will reconvene this week to discuss a "fetal heartbeat" bill, which would prohibit abortion as early as six weeks into pregnancy. The measure was passed by the House of Representatives in March but stalled in the Senate.
More than 20 witnesses from both sides of the abortion debate will testify on the issue before the state's judiciary committee on Monday and Tuesday. During the two-day session, the committee will also discuss an 11-page amendment to the original fetal heartbeat bill that includes a drastic change to the definition of fetal viability.
Under Roe v. Wade, the Constitution protects a woman's right to abortion prior to the viability of a fetus. The Supreme Court considered viability to be the point at which a fetus can survive on its own outside of the womb, which is usually between 24 to 28 weeks into pregnancy.
Read more: https://www.newsweek.com/tennessee-considers-abortion-ban-when-pregnancy-detected-1453882?piano_t=1
blugbox
(951 posts)How do you know you even want/need an abortion unless you ALREADY KNOW YOU'RE PREGNANT?
Jedi Guy
(3,249 posts)I guess women in Tennessee will have to walk into Planned Parenthood and say, "I'd like to get an abortion just in case I'm pregnant." Presumably this will be followed by a wink and a nudge.
I feel like we're all stuck in a surrealist version of the reality we knew prior to January 20, 2017. If what we perceive as reality truly is a Matrix-esque simulation, the programmers have a very sick sense of humor.
rampartc
(5,435 posts)what will they think of next?
Judi Lynn
(160,621 posts)LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(12,592 posts)Or they'll have to take the morning after pill with their daily multivitamin.
Personally, I think the guy who gets the girl pregnant will have half his wages garnished for the next 18 years, with the money going to the woman. And every legislator who voted for the law will have the same obligation.
rampartc
(5,435 posts)who are acting completely alone.
after further review. I suppose the boys are too busy with their guns to actually help in the procreation.
sakabatou
(42,174 posts)I hope they all take a long walk of a short pier.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,836 posts)csziggy
(34,137 posts)It was my first real exposure to frank discussions of birth control and abortion.
This was prior to Roe v. Wade and not long after women were allowed to obtain birth control without permission from their spouse or parents.
One of the things they advocated was that women basically evacuate themselves every month and gave explicit instructions on creating a vacuum setup with a jar and some tubing. I never used it and the newsletter is long gone from my collection of papers, so I don't remember much of the details.
I do remember thinking it was not a bad idea, especially since I was already experiencing difficulties with my periods. I was just not in a living situation where I had the privacy to try it.
Aha! The internet is a wonderful thing - here is an article about menstrual extraction with a set up like I remember:
https://www.womenshealthspecialists.org/self-help/menstrual-extraction/
If women who don't want a pregnancy and who are in places where abortion is no longer available did this every month, the anti-choice assholes would not be able to control their bodies.
SamKnause
(13,110 posts)cp
(6,655 posts)How about making it mandatory in Tennessee for every man to wear a condom every time?
I got angry reading the headline. Take it off women. Make men, all men, legally responsible.
irisblue
(33,023 posts)Again.
Condoms can fail.
rurallib
(62,448 posts)girl can't get pregnant then there is no need for abortion. Can't get pregnant without sperm.
Seems so logical to me
bdamomma
(63,922 posts)sorry to drastic whatever happened to its a decision between the dr. and his patient??? bastards have no business in women's medical issues.
dawg day
(7,947 posts)... and few women would need abortions.
But these anti-abortion people are really more into forced-birth... I don't think they want to prevent unwanted pregnancies, but rather force women to procreate.
sdfernando
(4,941 posts)Yeah, I know...rethuglican thinking at its best!
bdamomma
(63,922 posts)for all time. Sickening. Gilead here we come
Botany
(70,581 posts)Why would any woman ever vote GOP? BTW as been said before in this thread the
only time a woman seeks an abortion is after she finds out she is pregnant.
Nt.
TwilightZone
(25,479 posts)55% of TN voters are pro-life, one of the highest percentages in the country.
https://www.pewforum.org/religious-landscape-study/compare/views-about-abortion/by/state/
blm
(113,091 posts)And Dems cant scare us with Supreme Court, anymore. Some said.
The price for that arrogance is being paid by those vulnerable and being targeted.
lonely bird
(1,688 posts)Banning Tennessee?
rzemanfl
(29,568 posts)procon
(15,805 posts)Forced, involuntary neutering would be a good alternative for those weak fellas lacking good character and a strong will. Worked extremely well for my doggo; just sayin'.
Men keep blaming women after they get her pregnant. Maybe it's time they man up and take the responsibility they keep trying to foist off on women.
IronLionZion
(45,528 posts)and never will be, like many conservative men?
TygrBright
(20,763 posts)I can just see it... "I'd like appointments in February, April, June, August, October and December, please."
"Pregnancy checks?"
"No, abortions."
"Are you pregnant?"
"I have no idea, and I'd rather not know."
amusedly,
Bright
bucolic_frolic
(43,286 posts)Bet they won't ban assault rifles once you know how to pull the trigger!
ancianita
(36,133 posts)paleotn
(17,959 posts)A full ban on women working, reading, having bank accounts? Why not just go full on Gilead. I'd have more respect than this pissy crap. Just admit you're a bunch of misogynist, fascist scumbags and be done with it.
MuseRider
(34,119 posts)One damned thing we ask men to do, wear a fucking condom and here we are still in this mess.
It is ALL in our hands forever and ever always. From the moment of conception changing our bodies and our minds and our lives in huge ways and if we do not want it we pay the price then too. Abortion does not bother most of us women I don't think but it certainly does some women so there is that as well. Men can and do choose to walk away. They don't want anything to do with this leaving us with all the responsibility. Often broke and tired and sad that we cannot do better while they so often walk away. We ask you to take responsibility with ONE DAMNED THING and if you don't we pay big time with our lives because no matter how much you love or don't your children, you are in the game for life.
But but but it is not as sensitive with a condom on! Cry me a river, you think it isn't the same for us? We just don't want our lives taken away so you can have a little more sensitivity when you have sex.
Sorry, I am fine but this did effect my life long ago. I will carry it always even if the carrying is not sadness about the situation. Mostly it is anger that I had to deal all alone as a kid with this because, "Oh baby, it just does not feel as good. Just this once ok?"
Good lord, one would think that at some point the responsibility for one tiny part of this could be taken up like big boys.
RobinA
(9,894 posts)Personally, I've always been happy with the responsibility in my hands, but I'm a control freak, I guess. If the result is me being pregnant, I don't want the control to be in some man's hands, I'll handle pregnancy, yes or no, thank you. If there is a pregnancy, I'll handle what happens to it, and the born baby if there is to be one. In fact, had I gotten accidentally pregnant and decided to have the baby, I can foresee circumstances where he would not even have known. My body, my baby.
MuseRider
(34,119 posts)17 years old, pre Roe v Wade.
displacedtexan
(15,696 posts)All signs point to NO
Eliot Rosewater
(31,121 posts)own anger issues
badhair77
(4,220 posts)Women just happen to have the egg. Its the sperm thats invading. Lots of ways that can be done but some seem pretty brutal and I just ate so Ill let it to the imagination.
bubbazero
(296 posts)Been a real long 2 weeks, I are not so brights to begin with, but I would have sworn, and was fully expecting your topic to be a joke- thing of the ONION. But no, once again I were wrong. OK, so to make it easier for weese bottom of the intellectual totem pole types, may I offer this idear. If your proposed law sounds like it is a joke from the ONION or any other sarcasm dependent publication, THEN IT PROBABLY IS A STUPID LAW AND SHOULD NOT BE ENACTED.....thanks mz Lynn for the report, reminds me that my state isn't the only one with a stupid legislature.
roamer65
(36,747 posts)Plan B and other abortion drugs can be shipped discreetly by mail.
Welcome to the Internet age, you pieces of shit.