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crazytown

(7,277 posts)
Mon Aug 5, 2019, 11:39 AM Aug 2019

Nadler: Judiciary panel could recommend articles of impeachment by late fall

Source: Politico

House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerry Nadler said Monday that his panel could recommend articles of impeachment by late fall, sketching a rough timeline for potential efforts to remove President Donald Trump just days after a majority of House Democrats signaled their willingness to support an impeachment inquiry.

"If we decide to report articles of impeachment, we could get to that late in the fall, in the latter part of the year," Nadler said on MSNBC.

Nadler is petitioning a federal judge to get lawmakers access to grand jury evidence collected by former special counsel Robert Mueller, and his committee is preparing to sue former White House counsel Don McGahn to compel his testimony in the committee's ongoing investigation into potential abuses of power by Trump.

"I think that we will probably get court decisions by the end of October, maybe shortly thereafter. We'll have hearings in September and October with people we don't -- witnesses who are not dependent on the court proceedings," Nadler said.

Read more: https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/05/trump-impeachment-jerry-nadler-1448024



As Chairman Nadler has said more than once, and stated in a submission to the Federal Court, the impeachment investigation is on now. The House invested the Judiciary Committee with the full powers of Article 1 of the Constitution on June 11, 2019 - HR 430
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Pacifist Patriot

(24,653 posts)
2. I'd prefer late summer to late fall. That could be freaking December!
Mon Aug 5, 2019, 11:59 AM
Aug 2019

But yes, great to see Nadler's comments and no dancing around the word.

crazytown

(7,277 posts)
7. I would say an election year is an excellent time to impeach the resident
Mon Aug 5, 2019, 12:17 PM
Aug 2019

The stronger the case the Judiciary Committee can put together, the more it will destabilize the GOP. And there's always the possibility of truly sensational evidence at one of the hearings.

cstanleytech

(26,291 posts)
8. Exactly and it puts the Repugnants in a tough spot
Mon Aug 5, 2019, 12:49 PM
Aug 2019

during an election of either going on the record of backing criminal acts by a President or voting to impeach and risk angering Trump supporters.

crazytown

(7,277 posts)
9. Yeah. If Trump survives (which is probable)
Mon Aug 5, 2019, 12:54 PM
Aug 2019

no doubt Republican Senators voting to convict will receive 'special treatment', as the Nazis used to say. I'm thinking none those would be standing for re-election.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,611 posts)
5. Perfect timing
Mon Aug 5, 2019, 12:10 PM
Aug 2019

Just before the primaries.

Now, if Nadler's committee reports articles of impeachment to the full house, then could Pelosi hold further hearings throughout primary season, delaying a final floor vote until, say, just before the GOP convention?

KPN

(15,645 posts)
10. Late fall is getting a little risky in my view. The earlier the better, and
Mon Aug 5, 2019, 12:54 PM
Aug 2019

definitely no later than early November. The holiday season alone will eradicate the first 6-8 weeks of actual impeachment proceedings by the full House.

This is a good step -- announcing a timeline. I also think that we should all be contacting our Reps and Speaker Pelosi's office to encourage movement sooner than late fall (which in my mind begins NLT mid-November). We've got to have clear and concrete movement on impeachment by the time Congressionals go home for the holidays -- with the prospect of full steam ahead proceedings by mid-January at the latest.

Then hold House hearings and debate for the next 5-6 months before passing it on the Moscow Mitch and his cohorts to show their true colors just ahead of party conventions.

But what do I know? I'm just chomping at the bit and ready to string some folks up.

FBaggins

(26,737 posts)
11. He's being optomistic
Mon Aug 5, 2019, 01:23 PM
Aug 2019

If he expects a court decision by the end of October... when does he expect the appellate and/or Supreme Court to hear the case and rule? I assume he'll appeal if he loses... I know Trump will.

The House invested the Judiciary Committee with the full powers of Article 1 of the Constitution on June 11, 2019 - HR 430

That's certainly their current legal position... but it's an open question whether any judge will agree that it allows the chairman to declare that an impeachment inquiry has officially begun.

For instance - the key part of Article 1 powers is "all legislative powers". Would anyone try to claim that the House had just vested the committee (and/or the chairman) with all legislative powers? That the full House no longer needs to vote on bills? Of course not.

lastlib

(23,233 posts)
13. We need them YESTERDAY!
Mon Aug 5, 2019, 02:35 PM
Aug 2019

Or last month would be better!

Failing that, please hurry every chance you get!

crazytown

(7,277 posts)
15. Impeachment sets up a trial in the Senate
Mon Aug 5, 2019, 02:57 PM
Aug 2019

for the high crimes and misdemeanors referred by the House . The articles of impeachment, passed by the house are the subject of the trial. The House in effect is finding there is probable cause for conviction.

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
16. he should have already had the GJ evidence .So what is taking so long
Mon Aug 5, 2019, 05:22 PM
Aug 2019

The Judges are stalling?

And no doubt will be repealed....if ruling favours Congress..

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
19. That is too far, the repubs will manage to stall and drag it even longer
Tue Aug 6, 2019, 07:36 AM
Aug 2019

There is plenty of video to justify an impeachment for obstruction of justice, the creature obstructed justice on TV where he was recorded, that should be enough proof, I don't understand it. He has lied over 10,000 times, most of it is also on video.

I know, I know, I am frustrated about the pace of it, but this should have been started months ago, he obstructed justice when he fired Comey and later went on TV to say it.

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