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SHRED

(28,136 posts)
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 09:00 PM Aug 2019

Judge blocks New York from turning over Trump's tax information to Democrats

Source: CNN

Washington (CNN) — A federal judge on Thursday issued an order blocking New York state from turning over President Donald Trump's tax returns to congressional Democrats for now, should the House Ways and Means Committee request them through a newly passed New York law.
The limitation will be in place, Judge Carl Nichols wrote, while allowing New York to challenge whether Nichols' courtroom in Washington is the proper place for this case, brought by Trump, to move forward, and in what form it could proceed.

Read more: https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/08/01/politics/trump-tax-information-new-york/index.html?r=https%3A%2F%2Famp.cnn.com%2Fcnn%2F2019%2F08%2F01%2Fpolitics%2Ftrump-tax-information-new-york%2Findex.html%3F__twitter_impression%3Dtrue

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Judge blocks New York from turning over Trump's tax information to Democrats (Original Post) SHRED Aug 2019 OP
Judge Carl Nichols clerked for Clearance Thomas and was placed on the Fed. Bench by Trump Botany Aug 2019 #1
This is why winning the Presidency and majority of Senate is so important. 3 words: joost5 Aug 2019 #22
Republican leadership knows that by demographics alone they are doomed so packing the courts ... Botany Aug 2019 #24
Clerked for Clarence Thomas BeyondGeography Aug 2019 #2
And a member of the Federalist Society too Botany Aug 2019 #3
Laws and Constitution mean nothing to them dalton99a Aug 2019 #13
Ignore the ruling bitterross Aug 2019 #4
Can't FBaggins Aug 2019 #17
Speech and Debate Clause should prevail. bitterross Aug 2019 #19
That isn't what the speech and debate clause says FBaggins Aug 2019 #21
If NY wants to furnish XYZ with NY info, isn't it for NY to decide? mwooldri Aug 2019 #5
+++ agree iluvtennis Aug 2019 #11
Think it's more that the committee cannot accept them or use them. NYC Liberal Aug 2019 #16
he was nominated by tRump last year so no surprise. nt yaesu Aug 2019 #6
This answers my question, thanks. BlancheSplanchnik Aug 2019 #27
Fucking people are willing to throw their lives away for tRUMP bluestarone Aug 2019 #7
Sorry, we turned it over... oopsy! mitch96 Aug 2019 #8
They could throw a Tantrump... Rollo Aug 2019 #9
Right now? They could put them in jail FBaggins Aug 2019 #18
just like we can orangecrush Aug 2019 #25
Nope FBaggins Aug 2019 #26
No matter how many times Trump sues and countersues, this is all coming out. CBHagman Aug 2019 #10
A Trump judge. dalton99a Aug 2019 #12
Quote: "That Mr. Trump does not suffer any harm" turbinetree Aug 2019 #14
A corrupt judge. rockfordfile Aug 2019 #15
The mighty smoking gun, I mean tax returns, such hilariously predictable! Brainfodder Aug 2019 #20
Just leak this shit to the Washington Post already! jcgoldie Aug 2019 #23

joost5

(421 posts)
22. This is why winning the Presidency and majority of Senate is so important. 3 words:
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 03:50 PM
Aug 2019

Lifetime judicial appointments.

Botany

(70,539 posts)
24. Republican leadership knows that by demographics alone they are doomed so packing the courts ...
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 05:59 PM
Aug 2019

... will buy 'em some more time.

BTW

FBaggins

(26,754 posts)
17. Can't
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 01:56 PM
Aug 2019

The state law allows Congress to request the taxes... this action enjoins Congress from making the request.

States rights aren't involved.

 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
19. Speech and Debate Clause should prevail.
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 01:58 PM
Aug 2019

The judge cannot make something they do as part of their congressional duties illegal (within reason) or stop them from making a request.

FBaggins

(26,754 posts)
21. That isn't what the speech and debate clause says
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 03:33 PM
Aug 2019

If it was... the courts couldn't review anything Congress does.

It means that legislators can't be prosecuted personally for their official actions... but that doesn't mean that courts lack the authority to enjoin them from taking certain actions.

That certainly includes a temporary restriction while the court determines whether the case can even be advanced in that court in the first place.

mwooldri

(10,303 posts)
5. If NY wants to furnish XYZ with NY info, isn't it for NY to decide?
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 09:19 PM
Aug 2019

I think that a federal courtroom isn't the place for this fight, it's NY courts.... I.E. a State matter. And Republicans go on about states rights....

FBaggins

(26,754 posts)
18. Right now? They could put them in jail
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 01:57 PM
Aug 2019

Congress has not yet requested the records from the state. If the state were to turn them over without such a request, the new law wouldn't help them.

FBaggins

(26,754 posts)
26. Nope
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 07:51 PM
Aug 2019

Congress can theoretically lock a witness up for a short time (untested whether that can include officers of the executive branch)... this would be an actual crime.

CBHagman

(16,987 posts)
10. No matter how many times Trump sues and countersues, this is all coming out.
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 10:50 PM
Aug 2019

It's just a matter of time before every vile thing he's ever done is before the public eye.

dalton99a

(81,543 posts)
12. A Trump judge.
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 02:49 AM
Aug 2019

Former Wilmer Cutler Pickering Hale and Dorr partner Carl Nichols testifies at his confirmation hearing. Photo: Diego M. Radzinschi/ ALM

turbinetree

(24,709 posts)
14. Quote: "That Mr. Trump does not suffer any harm"
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 09:31 AM
Aug 2019

if he broke the law Federalist Society member...........................then he did harm to the country, just look at what his family did when the cheated New York out of 400 million in taxes......................what do you think he's doing in your district.................playing fair.......................give me a fucking break, you do realize that an committee asked for this tax paperwork..............based on a law from 1924, or did you read the comic book section in the Federalist Society preamble...................................., First and Foremost fuck over the Constitution to be a good Federalist Society member...........................................

You really should be fucking IMPEACHED.................

Brainfodder

(6,423 posts)
20. The mighty smoking gun, I mean tax returns, such hilariously predictable!
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 02:05 PM
Aug 2019

Meanwhile, where are leakers when you REALLY need them?




If leakers are reading this, I THINK OUR MEDIA WILL BE KIND!



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