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BumRushDaShow

(129,358 posts)
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 11:38 AM Jul 2019

Jeffrey Epstein denied bail, will remain jailed pending trial on sex trafficking charges

Source: Washington Post



NEW YORK -- Multimillionaire and registered sex offender Jeffrey Epstein will remain jailed while he awaits trial on new allegations that he sexually abused children, a federal judge ruled Thursday.

U.S. District Judge Richard M. Berman announced the decision at a hearing, siding with prosecutors after they and defense attorneys traded arguments for more than a week about whether Epstein could be released to some sort of home confinement.

Epstein, 66, was arrested on July 6 after landing at New Jersey's Teterboro Airport and charged with sex trafficking dozens of girls from 2002 to 2005. The case drew significant attention because in 2008, the jet-setting financier was able to resolve similar allegations by pleading guilty to just two state charges. He spent about 13 months in jail, with work release privileges, as part of the agreement.

The deal, which has been criticized as overly lenient, was approved by Alex Acosta, the former U.S. attorney in Miami whom President Trump picked as his labor secretary. Acosta resigned from the Labor Department post after the new charges were brought, drawing more attention to his handling of the previous case.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/judge-to-decide-whether-jeffrey-epstein-can-be-released-from-jail/2019/07/17/3e3cdb16-a8a0-11e9-9214-246e594de5d5_story.html



NYT article -

Jeffrey Epstein Is Denied Bail in Sex Crimes Case

By Benjamin Weiser and Ali Watkins

July 18, 2019

A federal judge on Thursday denied bail for Jeffrey Epstein, the financier facing sex-trafficking charges, rejecting his request to await trial under home detention at his Upper East Side mansion.

The judge, Richard M. Berman of Federal District Court in Manhattan, said Mr. Epstein, who owns property in Paris and has a private plane, would be detained in jail until his trial on charges that he sexually abused and trafficked dozens of underage girls in the early 2000s.

Prosecutors had opposed Mr. Epstein's proposal to remain in his mansion guarded by private security, saying he was seeking "special treatment" and trying to build his own private jail -- a "gilded cage," prosecutors wrote.

They had also argued that Mr. Epstein's vast wealth, said to be more than $500 million, would make it possible for him to flee the country if he were not held in jail.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/18/nyregion/jeffrey-epstein-bail-hearing.html
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Jeffrey Epstein denied bail, will remain jailed pending trial on sex trafficking charges (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Jul 2019 OP
Good. TruckFump Jul 2019 #1
Relieved to hear it True Dough Jul 2019 #2
And may the scum montanacowboy Jul 2019 #3
Good news, that will get to Trump and many of his so called "friends" katmondoo Jul 2019 #4
The passport voteearlyvoteoften Jul 2019 #5
Especially since it had ingress/egress stamps in it PJMcK Jul 2019 #21
I suspect Barr will step in soon SHRED Jul 2019 #6
Barr will regret associating with Trump, I think PJMcK Jul 2019 #23
Not sure Barr is the type to have 'regrets' Kindnesscostszero Jul 2019 #36
I think he already has. Rachel Maddow brought it up BigmanPigman Jul 2019 #39
It is time for Trump to be panicking..... ProudMNDemocrat Jul 2019 #7
Yeah it seems like the victims are lining up in droves between titaniumsalute Jul 2019 #13
Even criminals have kids..... ProudMNDemocrat Jul 2019 #17
I think you're right... Johnyawl Jul 2019 #38
"will surface" trev Jul 2019 #28
Good. This gives him the incentive to LibDemAlways Jul 2019 #8
This should come as no surprise jmowreader Jul 2019 #9
Good story, thanks. ancianita Jul 2019 #19
Rot. In. Jail. Recursion Jul 2019 #10
Amen Recursion DENVERPOPS Jul 2019 #29
Thank god let this mfucker rot in prison. N/T titaniumsalute Jul 2019 #11
Yes yes yes yes yes Leghorn21 Jul 2019 #12
Is he going to have a private wing with kacekwl Jul 2019 #14
The rich and famous always get treated better in prison. trev Jul 2019 #30
He knows he has to now start talking duforsure Jul 2019 #15
Good! What a relief.. mountain grammy Jul 2019 #16
Fantastic! honest.abe Jul 2019 #18
Time for Plan B displacedtexan Jul 2019 #20
I never doubted this for a moment. SergeStorms Jul 2019 #22
Once again, Rick Wilson is proven right PJMcK Jul 2019 #24
Maybe there's no incentive if he's never going to see the light of day matt819 Jul 2019 #25
K & R 50 Shades Of Blue Jul 2019 #26
"I'll be summering at The Tombs. Come anytime." BeyondGeography Jul 2019 #27
Now drumpf's lawyers need to get the word to him not to talk and he will be mfcorey1 Jul 2019 #31
Could be quite a while--- panader0 Jul 2019 #32
I wonder if IQ45 crapped his pants when they told him? Ilsa Jul 2019 #33
Get the private wing ready. Sneederbunk Jul 2019 #34
The party is over, asshole CanonRay Jul 2019 #35
Good. DeminPennswoods Jul 2019 #37
Nice courtroom illustration! BigmanPigman Jul 2019 #40
It's fascinating that they still have this done in jurisdictions not allowing cameras BumRushDaShow Jul 2019 #41
As a former illustrator BigmanPigman Jul 2019 #42
It's fascinating to watch for sure! BumRushDaShow Jul 2019 #43
I am pleased but Sherman A1 Jul 2019 #44

TruckFump

(5,812 posts)
1. Good.
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 11:40 AM
Jul 2019

That is a correct ruling by the Court.

I am thinking...maybe he will roll on MF45 to get a deal?

It's gotta be killing JE to be in the can.

PJMcK

(22,042 posts)
21. Especially since it had ingress/egress stamps in it
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 01:09 PM
Jul 2019

First the lawyers denied to the Court that it had been used. When prosecutors proved that it had, Epstein's lawyers came up with a new story, that it was to hide his Jewishness from other Mideast countries.

Is there no end to the constant lying by these people?!

 

SHRED

(28,136 posts)
6. I suspect Barr will step in soon
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 11:44 AM
Jul 2019

At least to make sure the elites involved never get named publicly.

PJMcK

(22,042 posts)
23. Barr will regret associating with Trump, I think
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 01:11 PM
Jul 2019

He's going to be severely tarnished when his time with Trump is over.

Just like nearly everyone else who associates with Trump. Couldn't happen to a more deserving asshole.

36. Not sure Barr is the type to have 'regrets'
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 02:24 PM
Jul 2019

He/they have 'agendas'. See: (i.e.) Iran-Contra.

Fully agree with the rest of your statement

BigmanPigman

(51,623 posts)
39. I think he already has. Rachel Maddow brought it up
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 05:14 PM
Jul 2019

this week on her show. She said, "Keep your eye on this". It isn't really clear to me but I think she was saying that the SDNY started to investigate a specific part of the Epstein's crimes about 6 months ago but the prosecutors have pulled back and dropped it since then. Since the SDNY is federal Barr has control over it, even though SDNY prosecutors are usually pretty good at doing their job professional and staying objective. Rachel said that it doesn't make sense unless you bring Barr into the picture.

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,786 posts)
7. It is time for Trump to be panicking.....
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 11:45 AM
Jul 2019

Goof for Judge Berman.

There was no way Epstein was going to be released on Conditional Bail with the evidence that has been discovered. He presented a dangerous Flight Risk. Freeze his assets wherever he has them.


Trump's association with this perverted criminal will surface because I have this feeling that there was more to this relationship that met the eye that will be discovered..

titaniumsalute

(4,742 posts)
13. Yeah it seems like the victims are lining up in droves between
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 12:08 PM
Jul 2019

New York, Florida, and New Mexico.

I just hope the trial can begin sooner than later. But we all know the Fed Justice system takes time.

In the meantime I wonder if Epstein will sing like a canary. Although he will be locked away forever he could angle for a more minimum security prison.

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,786 posts)
17. Even criminals have kids.....
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 12:27 PM
Jul 2019

While serving prison sentences. They look down on anyone amongst their midst who harms kids in any way, especially sexually.

Johnyawl

(3,205 posts)
38. I think you're right...
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 02:45 PM
Jul 2019

...about the best he can hope for is a Federal "country club' prison. And I think Barr will offer him that to get him to plead guilty before they get some of the victims on the stand, and keep his mouth shut.

LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)
8. Good. This gives him the incentive to
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 11:50 AM
Jul 2019

cut an eventual deal. I hope he was smart enough to capture the goings on on camera saved for just this circumstance. Sing, Jeffrey, sing.

jmowreader

(50,562 posts)
9. This should come as no surprise
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 11:51 AM
Jul 2019

He can thank Winston Shrout for his current predicament.

Shrout, thousand-year-old resident of Oregon, spent the last ten years giving seminars on tax evasion, and not paying taxes on the substantial sums of money he earned. After he was given ten years in a federal penitentiary, the judge was kind and gave him a few months to get his affairs in order. Now they can’t find him.

As a result, anyone who poses even a slight flight risk (Epstein poses a severe flight risk...there are a LOT of rich people who have a vested interest in Epstein not being around to start naming his customers) is going to sit in a cage until the government is through with them.

DENVERPOPS

(8,844 posts)
29. Amen Recursion
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 01:33 PM
Jul 2019

Or even better yet.........Send him, Trump, etc etc etc to a WOMEN's prison and put them in General Population.
Make sure all the women in the joint know about their sexual treatment of under-age girls and the atrocities they committed on them. I would bet a large percentage of the women in there were sexually mistreated many times before they turned 14 years old. You can bet your sweet ass they would gleefully get their just revenge taken out on these rich perverts who like little boys and girls.......

trev

(1,480 posts)
30. The rich and famous always get treated better in prison.
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 01:35 PM
Jul 2019

It sucks, but at least he'll be away from the public if he is sentenced.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
15. He knows he has to now start talking
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 12:14 PM
Jul 2019

They already know a lot more then he realizes, but will turn on trump and all others . Trump will start claiming he's a liar and really bad person, but threaten him too using Barr and others. Barr has a lot of explaining to do if his father was also involved being a child predator using his services, and how he got his teaching job from his dad. Barr is in deep deep trouble with trump.

displacedtexan

(15,696 posts)
20. Time for Plan B
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 01:08 PM
Jul 2019

I won't be surprised if Epstein has some sort of medical issue and has to be hospitalized, where he suffers a "stroke"-type episode and escapes or "dies."

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
22. I never doubted this for a moment.
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 01:09 PM
Jul 2019

Even in TrumpAmerikkka, no judge in their right mind would turn this scumbag lose. He's going to spend the rest of his worthless, child-molesting life in prison.

PJMcK

(22,042 posts)
24. Once again, Rick Wilson is proven right
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 01:14 PM
Jul 2019

"Everything Trump Touches Dies" is the name of his book. Although Mr. Wilson is a die-hard Republican, as a never-Trumper, he's been spot-on.

Epstein should rot in jail and I hope the prosecutors and jailers make certain that he is safe, healthy and primed for his trials. The revelations should be amazing.

matt819

(10,749 posts)
25. Maybe there's no incentive if he's never going to see the light of day
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 01:24 PM
Jul 2019

But. . . since he has nothing to lose, maybe it would be time for this predator to start singing like a canary.

Identify every single photo. Every single video. Every single text and e-mail. Every single bank deposit. Every single wire transfer.

It's highly unlikely that this monster stopped being a monster after 2009. He probably just got better at hiding it, plus he had decades of accumulating "friends" in high places. It's time to take them all down.

mfcorey1

(11,001 posts)
31. Now drumpf's lawyers need to get the word to him not to talk and he will be
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 01:45 PM
Jul 2019

taken care of, like he did for Manafort.

Ilsa

(61,697 posts)
33. I wonder if IQ45 crapped his pants when they told him?
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 01:48 PM
Jul 2019

I bet JE starts giving context to movies and pictures he has of other pervs from his private collection.

BumRushDaShow

(129,358 posts)
41. It's fascinating that they still have this done in jurisdictions not allowing cameras
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 05:34 PM
Jul 2019

Have to take my hat off to the artist professionals who do it.

BigmanPigman

(51,623 posts)
42. As a former illustrator
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 05:54 PM
Jul 2019

I hope it continues. Photography and computers have taken over the profession. I went to Parsons and ended up going back for a second degree...teaching (pay was only slightly better than illustrating). At least I got benefits.

There is another courtroom artist doing Epstein pictures last week and they were well done too. I love a medium toned pad so you can add light and dark to it. Fashion Illustration used to do this too.

BumRushDaShow

(129,358 posts)
43. It's fascinating to watch for sure!
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 06:06 PM
Jul 2019

And like steno (which they still use in courtrooms and even Congress), it's one of those hopefully-not-to-be-lost-anytime-soon skills.

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