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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Wed Jul 10, 2019, 09:50 AM Jul 2019

Schiff: Gates, Flynn negotiating with committee about testifying, won't meet subpoena deadline

Source: Politico


By KYLE CHENEY 07/10/2019 09:19 AM EDT

Former Trump campaign deputy chairman Rick Gates – one of former special counsel Robert Mueller’s crucial cooperators – has begun providing documents to the House Intelligence Committee, Chairman Adam Schiff said Tuesday night.

The California Democrat said Gates and his attorney have been negotiating with the committee about in-person testimony as well, “and we believe we’re making progress.”

The panel has also contacted a lawyer for former national security adviser Michael Flynn, another Mueller cooperator, about scheduling an appearance as well.

The Intelligence Committee had subpoenaed both Gates and Flynn to provide documents and appear for testimony by Wednesday, but Schiff acknowledged that neither man would meet that deadline. Flynn, in particular, has recently seemed to shift legal strategies, dumping his team of lawyers in favor of a prominent critic of the Mueller investigation.

Read more: https://www.politico.com/story/2019/07/10/schiff-gates-flynn-testifying-1405514

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Schiff: Gates, Flynn negotiating with committee about testifying, won't meet subpoena deadline (Original Post) DonViejo Jul 2019 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jul 2019 #1
Loyal Americans not. olegramps Jul 2019 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jul 2019 #4
Another sternly worded letter? SHRED Jul 2019 #2
Um... a subpoena is way more than a 'strongly worded letter." ehrnst Jul 2019 #7
What's an ignored subpoena called? SHRED Jul 2019 #8
Something that doesn't apply to this situation... ehrnst Jul 2019 #11
Rather sarcastic TryLogic Jul 2019 #16
Yes, and unlike other posts, backed up with facts. (nt) ehrnst Jul 2019 #17
What's the point of a subpoena if they just say no? mitch96 Jul 2019 #5
They didn't *start* by arresting Manafort and Cohen. There were subpoenas first.... ehrnst Jul 2019 #6
subpoena "That is the first step.That is the rule of law...." mitch96 Jul 2019 #9
Yes. Manafort was issued subpoenas before they fined and arrested him... (nt) ehrnst Jul 2019 #10
Negotiate this. Kid Berwyn Jul 2019 #12
LOL. Gee, I wonder how this will turn out. It's so spellbinding! LOL. PSPS Jul 2019 #13
Flynn belongs in prison. Period. BlueIdaho Jul 2019 #14
Damn. Negotiate, negotiate, negotiate. Drives me up the wall. TryLogic Jul 2019 #15
You have an alternative that would be more productive? Do share. (nt) ehrnst Jul 2019 #18
Flynn still has a plea agreement in place that requires him DeminPennswoods Jul 2019 #19
So a pair of fucking criminals get to call the shots? nt Progressive Jones Jul 2019 #20

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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
7. Um... a subpoena is way more than a 'strongly worded letter."
Wed Jul 10, 2019, 10:23 AM
Jul 2019

But if one wants rationalizations for their feelings about our leadership, one will create them if one doesn't have them.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
11. Something that doesn't apply to this situation...
Wed Jul 10, 2019, 10:51 AM
Jul 2019

And the correct term is "defying a subpoena," which still doesn't apply. That is what Don McGahn did, not Flynn and Gates.

From the OP, which if you read you would have seen this:

The California Democrat said Gates and his attorney have been negotiating with the committee about in-person testimony as well, “and we believe we’re making progress.”

The panel has also contacted a lawyer for former national security adviser Michael Flynn, another Mueller cooperator, about scheduling an appearance as well.


Legal processes and terms can very frustrating to those who don't know much about them and want action RIGHT NOW like you see in a movie. As they say, "God writes lousy theatre."

Perhaps some will be furious with "process" until Schiff pulls out a pistol and says, "Feeling lucky, Punk?" but they would also be just as furious if someone got off on a technicality because someone didn't follow that "process" to the letter.

But do go on. Perhaps you have a short memory.

I'm sure that some will find something to be angry about when they do get Flynn and Gates to the table...


mitch96

(13,926 posts)
5. What's the point of a subpoena if they just say no?
Wed Jul 10, 2019, 10:18 AM
Jul 2019

Does a subpoena have a fist in it's glove? What about the rule of law we talk about?
Arrest and fine these guys like Manafort.
m

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
6. They didn't *start* by arresting Manafort and Cohen. There were subpoenas first....
Wed Jul 10, 2019, 10:21 AM
Jul 2019

Because that's the first step. If they don't honor the subpoena, you can then go to a judge and say, "We tried a subpoena." Because a judge issuing a search warrant would ask, "Well, did you try a subpoena?" There is a process, and House Dems are going to stick to the letter of it.

That is the rule of law.... if it's not Chuck Norris enough for some, they're just going to have to stew in their own juice about it.

We're not the GOP. And if we don't dot our i's and cross our t's, then people are going to be yelling, "Why the hell are they getting off on a technicality??? What the hell were you thinking when you just went and arrested them without due process? "

mitch96

(13,926 posts)
9. subpoena "That is the first step.That is the rule of law...."
Wed Jul 10, 2019, 10:32 AM
Jul 2019

Got it, thanks!! It's a process with steps, yes?
m

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
14. Flynn belongs in prison. Period.
Wed Jul 10, 2019, 11:59 AM
Jul 2019

Then maybe he’d like a day out in the halls of Congress just for a change of view...

DeminPennswoods

(15,290 posts)
19. Flynn still has a plea agreement in place that requires him
Wed Jul 10, 2019, 03:21 PM
Jul 2019

to co-operate with all other investigations. I don't see how he gets out of testifying unless he completely withdraws from his plea agreement. I suspect Flynn/Flynn's lawyers don't really want to scrap the plea agreement as much as argue it was "entrapment" of some kind.

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