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Judi Lynn

(160,623 posts)
Thu Jun 6, 2019, 09:22 PM Jun 2019

Newly Discovered Files Suggest GOP Lawmakers Lied in Court About Racial Gerrymandering to Stop An El

Source: Slate

Newly Discovered Files Suggest GOP Lawmakers Lied in Court About Racial Gerrymandering to Stop An Election
By MARK JOSEPH STERN

JUNE 06, 20194:59 PM

The latest bombshell from the formerly secret files of the GOP’s top gerrymandering guru emerged on Thursday, and it’s astounding: Voting rights advocates claim to have evidence that North Carolina Republican lawmakers repeatedly lied to a federal court, and to the public, in a successful effort to delay a special election that threatened their legislative supermajority.

Republicans across the country employed Thomas Hofeller for years to draw gerrymanders that would dilute Democratic votes. When he died in 2018, he left behind 18 thumb drives and four hard drives containing 75,000 files—a vast trove of information detailing his work for the GOP, including damning revelations. His estranged daughter turned over the material to Common Cause, a voting rights advocacy group, in February.

The newest discovery from the files pertains to Covington v. North Carolina, a challenge to Republicans’ racial gerrymander of state legislative districts. In 2016, a federal district court ordered the legislature to draw new maps and hold a special election after finding the map had been illegally gerrymandered along racial lines.

The Supreme Court agreed that the maps were unlawful, but sent the case back to district court to resolve how quickly Republican lawmakers could draw new maps without excessively disrupting the state’s elections. GOP legislators insisted that they had not yet prepared any maps and would need ample time to do so. So the district court declined to order the special election, allowing Republicans to maintain their supermajority for another year and further manipulate state elections. (The supermajority was broken in 2018, the next election under the new maps.)

Read more: https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/06/hofeller-republican-gerrymandering-north-carolina.html

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Newly Discovered Files Suggest GOP Lawmakers Lied in Court About Racial Gerrymandering to Stop An El (Original Post) Judi Lynn Jun 2019 OP
It is against the law to lie in court. I hope these people (GOP lawmakers) go to jail.. Thank You Stuart G Jun 2019 #1
I know that for Democrats, it's perjury. dchill Jun 2019 #7
Imagine if he had texted his girlfriend criticizing an elected official! sharedvalues Jun 2019 #12
IKR! dchill Jun 2019 #20
What is this: IOKIYAR? And we all know there are different rules for Rs than for Ds Amaryllis Jun 2019 #31
It's OK If You Are Republican. dchill Jun 2019 #33
Thanks for reading, S.G. Judi Lynn Jun 2019 #8
+1. Either investigate and prosecute OR the law is meaningless ck4829 Jun 2019 #44
K&R Scurrilous Jun 2019 #2
Thanks. Judi Lynn Jun 2019 #9
... Scurrilous Jun 2019 #32
No consequences not fooled Jun 2019 #3
Time to demand these consequences ck4829 Jun 2019 #40
Republicans LYING??? Demon Dem Jun 2019 #4
LOL ck4829 Jun 2019 #41
K&R Great post, thanks. alwaysinasnit Jun 2019 #5
Thank you, AIAS. Judi Lynn Jun 2019 #10
I never thought of doing an acronym with my user name. Many thanks! alwaysinasnit Jun 2019 #15
I thought AIAS was interesting to look at as I tried to type it out. Judi Lynn Jun 2019 #16
Even better if the fireworks were sent upwards to spell "LOSER" alwaysinasnit Jun 2019 #17
Make more and more copies of those thumb drives. Prosecute these RatF-ers! ffr Jun 2019 #6
Prosecute! ck4829 Jun 2019 #49
Can there be any doubt that the GOP is now a criminal organization? Ligyron Jun 2019 #11
And this is just one guy in one state. Think what else is out there. Midnight Writer Jun 2019 #18
Was there? KPN Jun 2019 #24
It really should be considered one of these ck4829 Jun 2019 #42
Why am I not surprised?! sakabatou Jun 2019 #13
More evidence of the Continuing Criminal Enterprise that is the repuke party. Off with their heads! NBachers Jun 2019 #14
Frankly, I would find that very satisfying. KPN Jun 2019 #25
+1 ck4829 Jun 2019 #43
Can the plaintiffs request a criminal indictment for perjury? Someone needs to put these assholes vsrazdem Jun 2019 #19
Good question and you are right ck4829 Jun 2019 #45
GOP is the Party of Liars & Cheaters Achilleaze Jun 2019 #21
It really is ck4829 Jun 2019 #46
Thanks for posting this here. murielm99 Jun 2019 #22
Rachel? ... Rachel? lagomorph777 Jun 2019 #27
Sounds as if she had a very clear view of his character when she chose to be estranged from him. Judi Lynn Jun 2019 #34
It should get a lot of attention, let's help it along ck4829 Jun 2019 #47
Repugs cheat - period the end. lark Jun 2019 #23
+1 ck4829 Jun 2019 #48
With some luck my state and their CRK7376 Jun 2019 #26
Kicking this post underpants Jun 2019 #28
Model Republican! n/t Judi Lynn Jun 2019 #35
Members of the GOP are Greedy, Opprobrious, and Petulant. debsy Jun 2019 #29
The "P" stands for parasites. nt Progressive Jones Jun 2019 #37
Indeed ck4829 Jun 2019 #39
Judi Lynn erlewyne Jun 2019 #30
Amazing event you encountered in 1968. Wow. I have seen his face in reading, so many times. Judi Lynn Jun 2019 #36
My favorite story erlewyne Jun 2019 #38
K&R ck4829 Jun 2019 #50
Kickin' with disgust Faux pas Jun 2019 #51

Stuart G

(38,445 posts)
1. It is against the law to lie in court. I hope these people (GOP lawmakers) go to jail.. Thank You
Thu Jun 6, 2019, 09:33 PM
Jun 2019

for this post.

Amaryllis

(9,525 posts)
31. What is this: IOKIYAR? And we all know there are different rules for Rs than for Ds
Fri Jun 7, 2019, 08:52 PM
Jun 2019

about what is illegal.

Judi Lynn

(160,623 posts)
16. I thought AIAS was interesting to look at as I tried to type it out.
Fri Jun 7, 2019, 01:09 AM
Jun 2019

How could we be anything but ecstatic when the 4th of Trump is less than a month away?

If only the team in charge of fireworks on the Mall could send up a totally brown firework show! That would be worth the price of admission.

Ligyron

(7,639 posts)
11. Can there be any doubt that the GOP is now a criminal organization?
Thu Jun 6, 2019, 10:58 PM
Jun 2019

These people, this Republican party are without a doubt just plain evil.

There's no other word for it and a good 1/4 of our country seem fine with it. What happened to our people's sense of decency to say nothing honesty and civic pride?

Who will come to our aid if not ourselves? It's time for DC Democrats to practice some serious leadership and we best get started.

NBachers

(17,136 posts)
14. More evidence of the Continuing Criminal Enterprise that is the repuke party. Off with their heads!
Fri Jun 7, 2019, 12:02 AM
Jun 2019
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vsrazdem

(2,177 posts)
19. Can the plaintiffs request a criminal indictment for perjury? Someone needs to put these assholes
Fri Jun 7, 2019, 01:57 AM
Jun 2019

in check or they will keep lying under oath. If you or I did this we would be in jail.

murielm99

(30,763 posts)
22. Thanks for posting this here.
Fri Jun 7, 2019, 07:24 AM
Jun 2019

I missed it, not being here last night.

I hope this story gets A LOT of attention. Hofeller's daughter should be appearing on every talk show, every morning show, for weeks to come. I am glad she disclosed his nefarious work.

Judi Lynn

(160,623 posts)
34. Sounds as if she had a very clear view of his character when she chose to be estranged from him.
Sat Jun 8, 2019, 12:06 AM
Jun 2019

God only knows how many treacherous acts he committed before he did everyone a favor and died.

She showed a great deal of concern and responsibility when she outed him. What a shame there aren't more like her.

lark

(23,156 posts)
23. Repugs cheat - period the end.
Fri Jun 7, 2019, 08:02 AM
Jun 2019

No one likes them, they just steal elections by cheating constantly.

CRK7376

(2,203 posts)
26. With some luck my state and their
Fri Jun 7, 2019, 12:07 PM
Jun 2019

GOP majority will get a hard kick in the nuts over the lies, corruption and gerrymandering.

debsy

(530 posts)
29. Members of the GOP are Greedy, Opprobrious, and Petulant.
Fri Jun 7, 2019, 07:38 PM
Jun 2019

They have no compunction about cheating, no conscience to hold them back, and they stomp their feet if anyone tries to call them out for their behavior. They will literally do anything to "win" including selling out the country to the highest bidder.

erlewyne

(1,115 posts)
30. Judi Lynn
Fri Jun 7, 2019, 08:04 PM
Jun 2019

Keep up the good work, I read you often on different topics,
when I see your name I read.

thank you

This is not important, but in 1968 I stood guard on Rudolph Hess
at Spandau - it was empty ... no need.

Judi Lynn

(160,623 posts)
36. Amazing event you encountered in 1968. Wow. I have seen his face in reading, so many times.
Sat Jun 8, 2019, 12:31 AM
Jun 2019

Here is his Wikipedia for anyone who doesn't know too much about him:

Rudolf Hess
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudolf_Hess




















There are a lot of photos of Hess taken during his trial at Nuremberg. He was clearly among those at the top of the pile of Nazis. That must have been some assignment.

Thank you, so much, for taking the time to share this info. Your experience was one no one would ever be able to forget. One of a kind. There would be a lot of people who would have paid to look through your eyes at him for just a moment to try to examine what kind of person can turn out so wrong! I understand there are disputes about whether his death was really suicide, or if someone else did it.

Thanks, again.

erlewyne

(1,115 posts)
38. My favorite story
Sat Jun 8, 2019, 08:37 AM
Jun 2019

One afternoon a squad of guards went underneath my
tower and got Randy who was a tower or two away
and left. I had to wait a few days before I was back in the
barracks and happy-go-lucky Randy was all smiles.
He told me Hess looked up at him so he waved and said
"Shallom! Randy was a Jew and didn't even know who
Hess was and he did not know he was not allowed to
stand guard on him.

We were told not to communicate with Hess but Randy
was not reprimanded and the incident was swept under
the rug.

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