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brooklynite

(94,624 posts)
Fri May 24, 2019, 08:04 AM May 2019

FAA says there could be delay in Boeing 737 MAX software fix

Source: The Hill

The Federal Aviation Authority (FAA) on Thursday said that it could be up to a year before Boeing's 737 MAX jets are cleared once again for commercial flights.

At a press conference, FAA chief Daniel Elwell said that his agency could take up to a year to recertify the jets after Boeing pushed out a software update addressing sensor issues believed to be at fault behind two deadly crashes involving the jets in six months' time.

"If you said October I wouldn't even say that, only because we haven't finished determining exactly what the training requirements will be," Elwell said, according to the BBC.

"If it takes a year to find everything we need to give us the confidence to lift the [grounding] order so be it," he added.

Read more: https://thehill.com/policy/transportation/445366-faa-says-there-could-be-delay-in-boeing-737-max-software-fix

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FAA says there could be delay in Boeing 737 MAX software fix (Original Post) brooklynite May 2019 OP
Not good... Maxheader May 2019 #1
Yep..... what could possibly go wrong with letting manufacturers 'self certify'??? groundloop May 2019 #2
This is on Boeing. CentralMass May 2019 #5
From what I've read it's the "econo" engines that cause the stall characters.. mitch96 May 2019 #3
It's not so much as the engine as the pylon it's mounted on. Angleae May 2019 #8
Yup, Sherman A1 May 2019 #9
This is going to be bad for GE VMA131Marine May 2019 #4
Translation: It's more than a software fix. Hugin May 2019 #6
boeing was trying to push it to a late summer 19 clearance . I appreciate the push back on boeing lunasun May 2019 #7

Maxheader

(4,373 posts)
1. Not good...
Fri May 24, 2019, 08:22 AM
May 2019


Maybe if the faa had been more involved up front..during the development lives might have been saved...

mitch96

(13,914 posts)
3. From what I've read it's the "econo" engines that cause the stall characters..
Fri May 24, 2019, 08:59 AM
May 2019

and the software was installed to prevent the stall.. They wanted to have their cake and eat it too. So now Boeing's problem is to get a fix and still used the econo engines. The other alternative is to install the old engines and get not so hot economy..... which was the selling point for the 737 max...
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Angleae

(4,488 posts)
8. It's not so much as the engine as the pylon it's mounted on.
Fri May 24, 2019, 06:00 PM
May 2019

The new engine is larger than the one on the nextgen 737s so the pylon has to mount it higher and further forward. Putting the old engines on requires putting the old pylons on. I'm not sure if it's even possible to put the old pylons back on.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
9. Yup,
Fri May 24, 2019, 07:10 PM
May 2019

It is simply a bad design being "fixed" by software. The 737-8 Max needs to head to the scrap yard before anyone else is killed.

VMA131Marine

(4,140 posts)
4. This is going to be bad for GE
Fri May 24, 2019, 09:21 AM
May 2019

They are the sole supplier of the LEAP engines for the MAX and deliveries for the aircraft represent a large fraction of their future engine sales.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
7. boeing was trying to push it to a late summer 19 clearance . I appreciate the push back on boeing
Fri May 24, 2019, 11:52 AM
May 2019

i wonder if they get other countries to put them back in the air earlier ....

Boeing announced earlier this month that a software update for its 737 Max jets would be rolled out free of charge alongside training for pilots to address issues leading to the plane's grounding by every aviation agency in the world.

“With safety as our clear priority, we have completed all of the engineering test flights for the software update and are preparing for the final certification flight,” CEO Dennis Muilenburg said in early May.

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