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BumRushDaShow

(129,498 posts)
Thu May 23, 2019, 04:00 PM May 2019

WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange charged with violating Espionage Act

Source: Washington Post



Federal prosecutors on Thursday accused WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange of violating the Espionage Act, bringing against him a new, 18-count indictment alleging he unlawfully obtained and disclosed national defense information. The new charges dramatically raise the stakes of the case both for Assange and the news media, raising questions about the limits of the First Amendment and protections for publishers of classified information. Prosecutors allege Assange worked with a former Army intelligence analyst to obtain and disseminate classified information — conduct of which many traditional reporters might also be accused. The U.S. government, though, sought to distinguish the anti-secrecy advocate from a traditional reporter.

“Julian Assange is no journalist,” said John Demers, the Justice Department’s Assistant Attorney General for National Security. He said Assange engaged in “explicit solicitation of classified information.”

Assange was previously indicted by a U.S. grand jury over his interactions in 2010 with Chelsea Manning, the former Army intelligence analyst who shared hundreds of thousands of classified war logs and diplomatic papers with WikiLeaks. If convicted, Assange faced a maximum of five years in prison under that conspiracy charge. Each alleged violation of the Espionage Act carries a potential ten-year prison sentence. But the new charges against Assange carry potential consequences not just for him, but for others who publish classified information, and could change the delicate balance in U.S. law between press freedom and government secrecy. They also raises fresh questions about whether the British courts will view the new charges as justified and worthy of extradition.

Prosecutors alleged in the new indictment that Assange and WikiLeaks “repeatedly encouraged sources with access to classified information to steal it” and give it to the anti-secrecy organization, posting on its website a “most wanted” list for leaks organized by country and saying the documents must be “likely to have political, diplomatic, ethical or historical impact on release.” They alleged that Manning responded to that clarion call, downloading nearly four completely government databases of war reports, Guantanamo Bay detainee assessments and State Department cables and turned them over to WikiLeaks.


Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/legal-issues/wikileaks-founder-julian-assange-charged-with-violating-espionage-act/2019/05/23/42a2c6cc-7d6a-11e9-a5b3-34f3edf1351e_story.html



Original article and headline -

WikiLeaks’ Julian Assange charged with violating Espionage Act, U.S. officials say, in case that could test First Amendment rights

By Washington Post Staff
May 23 at 3:58 PM

Assange, 47, remains jailed in London following his April eviction from the Ecuadoran Embassy. Assange, who already faced a conspiracy charge in connection with the 2010 leak of diplomatic cables and military documents that WikiLeaks published, has vowed to fight any effort to extradite him to the United States.

This is a developing story. It will be updated.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2019/05/23/wikileaks-julian-assange-charged-with-violating-espionage-act-u-s-officials-say-in-case-that-could-test-first-amendment-rights/?utm_term=.a06f5e6aa04f
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WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange charged with violating Espionage Act (Original Post) BumRushDaShow May 2019 OP
Here's the NY Times story. pnwmom May 2019 #1
I added the updated WaPo article too BumRushDaShow May 2019 #3
'The media is the enemy of the people' crazytown May 2019 #10
I keep hoping the same srobertss May 2019 #13
I don't care.... FarPoint May 2019 #14
I'm not a supporter of his. However, I agreed with Obama's decision pnwmom May 2019 #15
Unsavory character. But what he should be held to account for is not what he's charged with. emmaverybo May 2019 #19
I sense you are correct.... FarPoint May 2019 #35
Does this open the possibilities of co-conspirators being charged under the same Espionage Act? herding cats May 2019 #2
This is in regards to Manning hacked data, not 2015-2016 data mr_lebowski May 2019 #5
A deal was made for his extradition. He can not be held here for anything other than the emmaverybo May 2019 #20
Finally... Long overdue Blue_Tires May 2019 #4
So the Obama administration was in the wrong for not having leveled these charges mr_lebowski May 2019 #6
I didn't say that, did I? Blue_Tires May 2019 #7
That would seem to be the implication given the story mr_lebowski May 2019 #8
Only if you're assuming "long overdue" means "over three years ago" Blue_Tires May 2019 #9
I don't see anything in the story suggesting that the nature of the crime at hand mr_lebowski May 2019 #11
That's because Mueller hasn't pinned 2016 on his ass yet... Blue_Tires May 2019 #16
I just don't see how he gets indicted over this. His "contributors" are in the trick bag, though. marble falls May 2019 #12
Shouldn't have sold his soul to the proverbial Devil Jake Stern May 2019 #17
To me, another Trojan horse Jarqui May 2019 #18
Link to the DoJ PR nitpicker May 2019 #21
The reports and cables Manning copied and released were marginally DeminPennswoods May 2019 #22
The ultimate irony is.. Cha May 2019 #23
Hey Cha! BumRushDaShow May 2019 #25
Oh yeah.. why wouldn't they Cha May 2019 #27
For all we know BumRushDaShow May 2019 #28
True.. Cha May 2019 #30
.... BumRushDaShow May 2019 #31
Humm. No proper separation of powers, then. Ghost Dog May 2019 #29
MSNBC: Donald Trump Administration Attacks First Amendment With Assange Charges TomVilmer May 2019 #24
I vehemently dislike Assange, but this is over-the-top. DetlefK May 2019 #26
Cross-post Bayard May 2019 #32
The reporter's name in the book was Ray Flowers. Jedi Guy May 2019 #33
One of my faves too Bayard May 2019 #34

pnwmom

(108,995 posts)
1. Here's the NY Times story.
Thu May 23, 2019, 04:06 PM
May 2019

In this new case Assange is being charged for PUBLISHING the leaked documents. His earlier charges were related to his assisting Manning in hacking. The Obama administration were concerned that charges like this could violate freedom of the press.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/23/us/politics/assange-indicted-espionage-act-first-amendment.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage

WASHINGTON — Julian Assange, the WikiLeaks leader, has been indicted on 17 new counts of violating the Espionage Act for his role in publishing classified military and diplomatic documents in 2010, the Justice Department announced on Thursday — a novel case that raises profound First Amendment issues.

The new charges were part of a superseding indictment obtained by the Trump administration that significantly expanded the legal case against Mr. Assange, who is already fighting extradition proceedings in London based on an earlier hacking-related count brought by federal prosecutors in Northern Virginia.

The secret documents that Mr. Assange published were provided by the former Army intelligence analyst Chelsea Manning, who was convicted at a court-martial trial in 2013 of leaking the records.

SNIP

The Obama administration considered charging Mr. Assange under the Espionage Act but never did out of concerns that such a case could chill traditional journalism.

crazytown

(7,277 posts)
10. 'The media is the enemy of the people'
Thu May 23, 2019, 05:19 PM
May 2019

I've no time for Assange. I hope he is extradited to Sweden and does not end up setting precedents for this Administration.

pnwmom

(108,995 posts)
15. I'm not a supporter of his. However, I agreed with Obama's decision
Thu May 23, 2019, 05:53 PM
May 2019

not to prosecute him for PUBLISHING itself. That puts freedom of the press at risk.

I'm happy he was prosecuted for helping to hack.

FarPoint

(12,444 posts)
35. I sense you are correct....
Fri May 24, 2019, 06:26 PM
May 2019

I just want to win somw of this battle....this corruption is toxic for the world....

herding cats

(19,568 posts)
2. Does this open the possibilities of co-conspirators being charged under the same Espionage Act?
Thu May 23, 2019, 04:07 PM
May 2019

Because that would be freaking amazing!

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
5. This is in regards to Manning hacked data, not 2015-2016 data
Thu May 23, 2019, 05:04 PM
May 2019

The hacked/published emails from DNC and Podesta did not contain classified information, and as such he's basically in no significant legal trouble at this time (that I'm aware of anyway) for publishing that info.

Should he prove have been involved in the hacking itself, that situation could change. I've read of no evidence he was, however.

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
20. A deal was made for his extradition. He can not be held here for anything other than the
Fri May 24, 2019, 04:09 AM
May 2019

old stuff. That’s the law. No new evidence will make any difference. Barr had to sign off on the deal.
Sweden? Are you listening?

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
11. I don't see anything in the story suggesting that the nature of the crime at hand
Thu May 23, 2019, 05:20 PM
May 2019

Has changed to any significant degree since it was committed in 2011, hence my assumption as to the point you were making.



But if that's not what you meant, cool.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
16. That's because Mueller hasn't pinned 2016 on his ass yet...
Thu May 23, 2019, 06:17 PM
May 2019

But that too is coming, by God's grace...

Jake Stern

(3,145 posts)
17. Shouldn't have sold his soul to the proverbial Devil
Thu May 23, 2019, 06:43 PM
May 2019

Leaked Dem documents in order to aid Trump only to be told "Go away! I never knew you!" now that the job is done.

Betrayal really blows, eh Jules?




Jarqui

(10,130 posts)
18. To me, another Trojan horse
Thu May 23, 2019, 09:20 PM
May 2019

For journalistic reasons, due to these charges, the UK probably won't extradite Assange.

The Wikileaks-Trump connection will never come to these shores for their day in court.

Assange probably has great Kompromat on Trump.
All these charges look like to me is a trade for Assange's freedom in exchange for his silence about Trump's campaign.

The previous charges that have now been superseded were a much easier sell for extradition.

That's what I think is really going on here.
It's 'Con-voluted' obstruction of justice.

DeminPennswoods

(15,290 posts)
22. The reports and cables Manning copied and released were marginally
Fri May 24, 2019, 06:50 AM
May 2019

classified material, imho. They were more embarassing to the military and govt than anything. I believe it's common knowledge among military and civil servants that far too many documents are stamped with some sort of classification that really don't need to have it.

BumRushDaShow

(129,498 posts)
25. Hey Cha!
Fri May 24, 2019, 07:55 AM
May 2019


That tweet sums it up!

I had a thought come to mind that Wikileaks might have all sorts of dirt on the GOP too but has chosen not to publish it. Will be interesting to see if that is his failsafe...

Cha

(297,692 posts)
27. Oh yeah.. why wouldn't they
Fri May 24, 2019, 08:27 AM
May 2019

if they're such hackers?

But, Assange wanted the gop.. so here we are.

One would think he might have mentioned that to them Before they charged him with espionage.

BumRushDaShow

(129,498 posts)
28. For all we know
Fri May 24, 2019, 08:32 AM
May 2019

he might have wanted to wait to see what they would attempt to charge him with before he dropped the hint. I would think that he wouldn't blow his whole wad right away.

Cha

(297,692 posts)
30. True..
Fri May 24, 2019, 08:40 AM
May 2019

Who knows what a slimeball like Assange, who smeared Seth Rich to help the Russians, is thinking?

 

Ghost Dog

(16,881 posts)
29. Humm. No proper separation of powers, then.
Fri May 24, 2019, 08:34 AM
May 2019

(Yes, I know, we are none of us perfect). The judicial power should be properly independent of the political executive power

TomVilmer

(1,832 posts)
24. MSNBC: Donald Trump Administration Attacks First Amendment With Assange Charges
Fri May 24, 2019, 07:48 AM
May 2019

Rachel Maddow last night:


DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
26. I vehemently dislike Assange, but this is over-the-top.
Fri May 24, 2019, 08:05 AM
May 2019

My guess is, the US is artificially inflating the charges against him because they really, really want him extradited.

Sweden is currently requesting an extradition for rape-charges, but the process is dragged out because Assange's lawyers have trouble contacting him in british jail.

I guess, Sweden's request for extradition would have precedence in the UK, because the charges are older. So the US is levelling additional charges on Assange to make their case more urgent than the swedish case.

Bayard

(22,154 posts)
32. Cross-post
Fri May 24, 2019, 11:13 AM
May 2019

From:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=2320195

On the same level Chris Hayes and Rachel Maddow called a 4-alarm fire last night---new charges yesterday, and trying to extradite Julian Assange, for publishing classified material. They pointed out that if this happens, any investigative reporter could be arrested and tried, including themselves. Forget freedom of the press, no matter what you think of Assange. Scary stuff.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/wikileaks-founder-julian-assange-indicted-new-charges-under-espionage-act-n1009441

Reminds me of that scene in "The Stand", where reporter, Kathy Bates, is gunned down live on the radio by the government. Can't find it at the moment.

Jedi Guy

(3,254 posts)
33. The reporter's name in the book was Ray Flowers.
Fri May 24, 2019, 11:24 AM
May 2019

He ran a radio talk show in Missouri as I recall. The troops broke into the studio and gunned him down on the air when he refused to stop broadcasting. Some of the troops immediately turned on and shot the sergeant in charge of the group.

That's one of my all-time favorite books so I've read it several times. I remember having very unsettling dreams while reading it for the first time...

Bayard

(22,154 posts)
34. One of my faves too
Fri May 24, 2019, 11:50 AM
May 2019

Ray Flowers was replaced with a woman in the movie. Kathy Bates played her, but don't recall that character's name.

Definitely a book you remember. It took me awhile to stop spelling everything, M-O-O-N.

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