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Judi Lynn

(160,636 posts)
Mon Apr 29, 2019, 10:41 PM Apr 2019

Texas Senate approves using herbicides to fight illegal border crossings

Source: Houston Chronicle

Texas Senate approves using herbicides to fight illegal border crossings

Jeremy Wallace April 29, 2019 Updated: April 29, 2019 4:39 p.m.



The Rio Grande River stretches between the United States (on the left) and Mexico near the border crossing at Del Rio, TX,Thursday, August 17, 2017. (Mark Mulligan / Houston Chronicle)
Photo: Mark Mulligan, Staff Photographer / Mark Mulligan / Houston Chronicle

It’s not a wall and it isn’t more boots on the ground, but the Texas Senate on Monday approved a bill that would send millions of dollars of herbicides to the front lines to battle illegal immigration.

The Texas Senate passed legislation to send up to $10 million in additional funding to the Texas border to fight Carrizo cane, a weed that can grow 25 feet tall and provides cover for border crossers along the Rio Grande Valley.

“It’s all about border security,” said State Sen. Donna Campbell, a New Braunfels Republican.

Along the river, Carrizo cane grows in thick clumps, like corn or bamboo, and become a good hiding place for people illegally crossing the border. It is an exceptionally fast growing plant, able to grow about 4 inches per day and reach a mature height of over 25 feet in about a year.


Read more: https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/politics/texas/article/Texas-Senate-approves-using-herbicides-to-fight-13804919.php



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Texas Senate approves using herbicides to fight illegal border crossings (Original Post) Judi Lynn Apr 2019 OP
What could possibly go wrong. Cold War Spook Apr 2019 #1
My exact thought, my exact inference LearnedHand Apr 2019 #8
Poisoning the border? forgotmylogin Apr 2019 #23
Agent 🍊 Orange redux. Nt duhneece Apr 2019 #32
I thought the same thing. duforsure May 2019 #48
and the Vietnamese. niyad Apr 2019 #37
Exactly my first thought. dixiegrrrrl May 2019 #47
Yep..my thoughts too...agent orange... Maxheader May 2019 #49
Might as well call it "Operation Ranch Hand." DemoTex May 2019 #51
Up next... GReedDiamond Apr 2019 #2
You beat me to it. Exact same thought. sinkingfeeling Apr 2019 #3
Think of it as one of those... GReedDiamond Apr 2019 #4
+1000 and kick and recommend op bronxiteforever Apr 2019 #6
Cancer anyone? Traildogbob Apr 2019 #9
If you eat grains of any kind these days, you are eating Roundup! pazzyanne Apr 2019 #17
Eat organic or home grown watoos Apr 2019 #19
As have I, but it is almost impossible to be 100% organic today. pazzyanne Apr 2019 #27
Not we, Corp AmurKKka Traildogbob Apr 2019 #22
We, because the collective we is allowing this to happen and pazzyanne Apr 2019 #26
I thought Trump IS Agent Orange already. House of Roberts Apr 2019 #13
You got that right...nt GReedDiamond Apr 2019 #16
"I love the smell of napalm in the morning" DBoon Apr 2019 #29
Republicans care nothing about wildlife & the environment. Honeycombe8 Apr 2019 #5
Great plan Texas. FailureToCommunicate Apr 2019 #7
It will all go down river . Is this a drinking water source for towns along there? lunasun Apr 2019 #10
Yes it is. TexasTowelie Apr 2019 #12
Will they be able to do this on private property? Delmette2.0 Apr 2019 #11
I guess that's one way to get his wall ... just start dropping poison all over the environment ... mr_lebowski Apr 2019 #14
Now he is going to get Mexico to pay for a wall. Cold War Spook Apr 2019 #28
Reckon MonoSanto is loving this,,,,,,, Cryptoad Apr 2019 #15
Wow, herbicides!! Grokenstein Apr 2019 #18
My cousin has been in a wheelchair for 47 years watoos Apr 2019 #20
So now the fucking Texas right wing fascist legislature is going to turn the International border turbinetree Apr 2019 #21
Dow Chemical llmart Apr 2019 #24
Corrected, Thank you...........they are all the same, just differant name....................... turbinetree Apr 2019 #30
Actually I wasn't trying to correct you because I think DuPont and Dow now really are the same. llmart Apr 2019 #35
Trump can use our troops to spray it of course. And NOT allowed to drift to populated areas. keithbvadu2 Apr 2019 #25
Another category of treatment for the VA. Haggis for Breakfast Apr 2019 #42
Horrible idea angrychair Apr 2019 #31
So "Texan" of them to want biochemical warfare on the border. This decision is anti-American. ancianita Apr 2019 #33
Wonder if the border legislators voted for this for their districts? keithbvadu2 Apr 2019 #34
JFC on a trailer hitch--AGENT ORANGE , anyone??? niyad Apr 2019 #36
sooooo, which mega-chemical company will get the contract, and how many of those legislators niyad Apr 2019 #38
Wrecking the ecosystem with a poison might be a decision they will regret in a few years kimbutgar Apr 2019 #39
actually, a LOT more at link: niyad Apr 2019 #40
a little bit on this herbicide niyad Apr 2019 #41
The stupid just never ends does it ? Haggis for Breakfast Apr 2019 #43
Film of Soldiers spraying Agent Orange without protective equipment keithbvadu2 Apr 2019 #44
It hasn't passed the Texas House, and it may not. End Of The Road Apr 2019 #45
WE need NAMES with FACES of the ones that voted for this bullshit! bluestarone Apr 2019 #46
Yeah, let's just spray Agent Orange along the entire border and turn it into a toxic waste dump. Nitram May 2019 #50
Just another thing that makes wonder what the FUCK has happened to Texas? walkingman May 2019 #52

LearnedHand

(3,394 posts)
8. My exact thought, my exact inference
Mon Apr 29, 2019, 11:01 PM
Apr 2019

Like we’re too freaking stupid to make the connection if they just call it a herbicide.

forgotmylogin

(7,538 posts)
23. Poisoning the border?
Tue Apr 30, 2019, 08:35 AM
Apr 2019

Yeah, sounds like an excuse so they can basically use gas. They're "killing the weeds".

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
47. Exactly my first thought.
Wed May 1, 2019, 12:19 AM
May 2019


2nd thought...how to increase Montesanto's stock. They gotta be talking about Roundup.
It persists for a long time, so yeah, let's pollute the rive, no body actually drinks it or fishes in it, I'm sure.

bronxiteforever

(9,287 posts)
6. +1000 and kick and recommend op
Mon Apr 29, 2019, 10:59 PM
Apr 2019

The river will also likely be impacted by the “herbicide” aka defoliant

Traildogbob

(8,828 posts)
9. Cancer anyone?
Mon Apr 29, 2019, 11:01 PM
Apr 2019

Round Up and Monsato could care less about cancer deaths. And this GOP does not either. Maybe airdrop crushed Russian asbestos over on those damn brown people. Use to be regulations about poison near waterways. Air and water.........over rated. Like regulations. Be Best, MAGA!

pazzyanne

(6,558 posts)
17. If you eat grains of any kind these days, you are eating Roundup!
Tue Apr 30, 2019, 02:41 AM
Apr 2019

I ate Cheerios and oatmeal for years because it was healthy. I avoided roundup in my yard and garden like the plaque. I still ingest roundup. We are poisoning ourselves, and people are too stupid to realized that!

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
19. Eat organic or home grown
Tue Apr 30, 2019, 05:31 AM
Apr 2019

or local grown that you know doesn't use Roundup. It isn't 100% guaranteed but your chances are a lot better. My family and daughter's family have been doing organic for a long time now.

pazzyanne

(6,558 posts)
27. As have I, but it is almost impossible to be 100% organic today.
Tue Apr 30, 2019, 09:05 AM
Apr 2019

At best all we can do is minimize the impact of the chemicals in our world.

Traildogbob

(8,828 posts)
22. Not we, Corp AmurKKka
Tue Apr 30, 2019, 08:14 AM
Apr 2019

Recent studies have shown round up in every tested piece of broccoli, freaking broccoli. Every other TV commercial is law firms that will represent you for Mesothelioma and Round Up cancers. But, trump welcomes, now, Russian asbestos, with his damn mug on the shipping bales, and Monsato is a huge lobbying group and political contributor. Then, our amazing health care Corporate thugs get rich off your cancer before you die. MAGA, God be blessin MurKKKa. They even poison our damn air and water. Greatest country on earth??? Joking, right?

pazzyanne

(6,558 posts)
26. We, because the collective we is allowing this to happen and
Tue Apr 30, 2019, 09:03 AM
Apr 2019

to continue happening. I have been anti-corporation since long before John Roberts and the Supreme Court decided they were "persons". WE need to get our collective heads on straight and change our perception of what exactly corporations are in reality. VOTE BLUE LIKE YOUR LIFE DEPENDS ON IT, BECAUSE IT DOES!!!

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
5. Republicans care nothing about wildlife & the environment.
Mon Apr 29, 2019, 10:59 PM
Apr 2019

I'm sure wildlife live in those cane plants, or off of them. And tons of herbicides being dropped in the area?

Horrible, horrible idea. Is there nothing on earth they care about besides themselves and money?

TexasTowelie

(112,483 posts)
12. Yes it is.
Mon Apr 29, 2019, 11:21 PM
Apr 2019

It's the drinking source for Laredo and most of the towns in the Rio Grande Valley. The water already has a brackish taste and the area has a high proportion of anecephalic births and other neurological problems.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
14. I guess that's one way to get his wall ... just start dropping poison all over the environment ...
Tue Apr 30, 2019, 12:09 AM
Apr 2019

Eventually we'll decide that just building his stupid fucking wall is the only humane and reasonable thing to do to make the Trump atrocities against human and nature ... STOP.

If this doesn't work, what's next? Landmines? Strafing runs?

 

Cold War Spook

(1,279 posts)
28. Now he is going to get Mexico to pay for a wall.
Tue Apr 30, 2019, 09:08 AM
Apr 2019

It will be on their side of the border. Seriously, if this junk gets blow South of the border won't Mexico sue?

Grokenstein

(5,727 posts)
18. Wow, herbicides!!
Tue Apr 30, 2019, 04:12 AM
Apr 2019

...although technically Zylon-B is a pesticide, right?

We're watching it happen all over again.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
20. My cousin has been in a wheelchair for 47 years
Tue Apr 30, 2019, 05:37 AM
Apr 2019

with MS-like symptoms because of exposure to Agent Orange in Nam.

I have come to the conclusion that Republicans are either stupid or devils. WTF is the IQ of our nation?

turbinetree

(24,720 posts)
21. So now the fucking Texas right wing fascist legislature is going to turn the International border
Tue Apr 30, 2019, 07:41 AM
Apr 2019

Last edited Tue Apr 30, 2019, 10:41 AM - Edit history (1)

with Mexico into the new Vietnam and it's past program, like when this country was using Dow Chemical Agent Orange to defoliate the countryside, these people are just fucked up in the head, and they are getting paid to be fucked up in the head...............................I had friends come back from Vietnam that developed cancer because of Agent Orange......and this Donna Braunfels is a real piece of work, she should have her pay docked to pay for the health issues that are going to happen on both sides of the border, but in her small world thinking, she doesn't see that, but everyone else in this country will be hit with the bill sometime or later, what a fucking racists, because that's what she really is .............................POS.................

llmart

(15,556 posts)
24. Dow Chemical
Tue Apr 30, 2019, 08:51 AM
Apr 2019

in Midland, Michigan. Their motto should be "killing people and animals on a daily basis".

llmart

(15,556 posts)
35. Actually I wasn't trying to correct you because I think DuPont and Dow now really are the same.
Tue Apr 30, 2019, 02:36 PM
Apr 2019

Don't quote me on that. You know how these mega mergers go nowadays. Anyway you slice it, they're all killing our citizens or making them gravely ill one way or another. Why we tolerate this is beyond me.

I worked with a woman when I first moved to Michigan and she told me that her father worked at Dow Chemical (she was raised in Midland) and that he died of cancer in his early 50's. I'm pretty sure there were more than we'll ever know. They also use animals in their research.

What is it going to take for people to wake up in this country? I'm reading a very good book right now written by an Amish man talking about how the Amish farm with only little or no chemicals. He advocates for getting back to the small, non-corporate owned farms as do I, but I don't see that happening. I honestly think Americans won't be happy until they've completely ruined the country and it's lands.

keithbvadu2

(36,949 posts)
25. Trump can use our troops to spray it of course. And NOT allowed to drift to populated areas.
Tue Apr 30, 2019, 08:58 AM
Apr 2019

Trump can use our troops to spray it of course.

And NOT allowed to drift to populated areas.

Sarcasm?

angrychair

(8,736 posts)
31. Horrible idea
Tue Apr 30, 2019, 10:55 AM
Apr 2019

Would think you could buy a lot of night vision goggles and heat sensors with $10 million dollars.

ancianita

(36,143 posts)
33. So "Texan" of them to want biochemical warfare on the border. This decision is anti-American.
Tue Apr 30, 2019, 11:29 AM
Apr 2019

It's not about stupidity. It's about the banality of evil inhumanity. It shocks the conscience.

Pollute, kill everything to solve a problem Texas could solve a hundred other ways.



niyad

(113,594 posts)
38. sooooo, which mega-chemical company will get the contract, and how many of those legislators
Tue Apr 30, 2019, 02:46 PM
Apr 2019

are on that payroll?

kimbutgar

(21,215 posts)
39. Wrecking the ecosystem with a poison might be a decision they will regret in a few years
Tue Apr 30, 2019, 02:47 PM
Apr 2019

there are many unintended consequences when you fool with Mother Nature!

niyad

(113,594 posts)
40. actually, a LOT more at link:
Tue Apr 30, 2019, 02:52 PM
Apr 2019


During a hearing on the bill earlier this month, State Sen. Pete Flores, R-Pleasanton, said even infrared equipment is not effective in picking people out of the brush. Flores’s district includes hundreds of miles of the Texas border from Eagle Pass to Big Bend National Park.

Getting rid of the weed would give border patrol a clear vision of the border along the Rio Grande River, Campbell said. But battling Carrizo cane is easier said than done. Campbell said simply cutting it down makes it come back stronger and thicker. Instead there is an herbicide called imazapyr that can be used against the plant.

It’s not the first time Texas Legislature has battled Carrizo cane. In 2015 the Legislature set up a program to control Carrizo cane growth through the Texas State Soil and Water Conservation Board, but there was not enough funding with the program to last more than a few months. Environmental groups have objected to aerial spraying of chemicals to eradicate Carrizo cane, and the Mexican government has also expressed concerns in the past.

EPA officials have said that imazapyr, which has been in use since 1985, has not been found to pose a risk to people ingesting residue in food or drinking water, including children. The EPA also found risks to birds, mammals, fish, bees, and aquatic insects to be unlikely.

. . . . .




niyad

(113,594 posts)
41. a little bit on this herbicide
Tue Apr 30, 2019, 02:56 PM
Apr 2019

Concentrated imazapyr has low acute toxicity on the skin or if ingested, but is harmful if inhaled and may cause irreversible damage if it gets in the eyes.

keithbvadu2

(36,949 posts)
44. Film of Soldiers spraying Agent Orange without protective equipment
Tue Apr 30, 2019, 04:54 PM
Apr 2019

Film of US Soldiers spraying Agent Orange defoliant onto a riverbank without protective equipment

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=spraying+agent+orange+in+vietnam

No bone spurs.

End Of The Road

(1,397 posts)
45. It hasn't passed the Texas House, and it may not.
Tue Apr 30, 2019, 05:11 PM
Apr 2019

First, the Texas Legislative session ends May 27. They may not have enough time to get it through committees. Next session doesn’t begin until January, 2021.

Second, the Texas House isn’t quite as fascist as the Senate. They may not be willing to deal.

One can hope!

bluestarone

(17,062 posts)
46. WE need NAMES with FACES of the ones that voted for this bullshit!
Tue Apr 30, 2019, 08:16 PM
Apr 2019

Then post them all over every STATE! (especially TEXAS)

Nitram

(22,900 posts)
50. Yeah, let's just spray Agent Orange along the entire border and turn it into a toxic waste dump.
Thu May 2, 2019, 04:11 PM
May 2019

That'll discourage immigrants.

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