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riversedge

(70,267 posts)
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 04:19 PM Apr 2019

Republican lawmakers are freaking out after a historic fort added a single word for historical accu

Source: raw story





25 Apr 2019 at 09:54 ET






The Fort Snelling historic site in Minnesota has a new sign that say “Historic Fort Snelling at Bdote” – and it has caused a drastic response from Republican lawmakers in the state.

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State Senator Scott Newman and other Republicans were outraged the Dakota word was included in a sign.
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“I do not agree with what the [Minnesota Historical Society] is engaged in doing, and I believe it to be revisionist history,” Newman said.

The Historical Society denies that it is diminishing military history. The organization says it wants to expand the stories they are telling about the fort.

GOP lawmakers are now pushing a bill to cut the Historical Society’s budget by $4 million a year, which could result in the closure of some popular sites......................................
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Or as Minnesota Public Radio’s Bob Collins said: “The usual suspects have gotten their feelings hurt — again — because the Minnesota Historical Society has pointed out that Minnesota history didn’t begin with them.”...............................

Read more: https://www.rawstory.com/2019/04/republican-lawmakers-freaking-historic-fort-added-single-word-historical-accuracy/



Leave it to a Republican to try to diminish the Dakota people who lived in the area first. The name of the Fort is not being changed. But the location is added to some Welcome signs.





State Sen. Scott Newman. (Screenshot)


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Controversy arises over new signs at Fort Snelling


https://kstp.com/news/controversy-arises-new-signs-fort-snelling/5328873/

April 24, 2019 05:42 PM

Fort Snelling played a key role in Minnesota history, and today it remains one of the state's most prominent historical landmarks.

But a controversy has arisen over signs the Minnesota Historical Society has placed at the fort, which is located in an area known as Bdote by the Dakota people.

The old signs simply read "Fort Snelling Historic Site," but newer signs now read "Historic Fort Snelling at Bdote," - a Dakota word meaning where two waters meet. In this case, the Minnesota and Mississippi Rivers.




..................David Kelliher of the MHS said Fort Snelling has not been renamed. Rather, the MHS has simply expanded the stories they are telling about what has happened there over 200 years.

"Lots of history has happened there over many generations," Kelliher said. "We want to tell all of those stories, and by telling those stories we absolutely are not diminishing military history or the contributions of veterans."........
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Republican lawmakers are freaking out after a historic fort added a single word for historical accu (Original Post) riversedge Apr 2019 OP
There is something seriously wrong with these republicans. madaboutharry Apr 2019 #1
+1 Twain would've have a field day Kurt V. Apr 2019 #5
Still waiting for republicans to join the human race. gtar100 Apr 2019 #2
I would rather they rapture themselves away to some phantasmagorical place erronis Apr 2019 #15
Amen and amen! paleotn Apr 2019 #21
is that Powers Boothe? Skittles Apr 2019 #27
Yup n/t TexasBushwhacker Apr 2019 #35
Very precisely and concisely stated. +1. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2019 #28
All the Repukes senators look like Scott Newman LakeArenal Apr 2019 #3
It is past time that old man put himself out to pasture. riversedge Apr 2019 #6
Might as well change the state's name while they're at it BeyondGeography Apr 2019 #4
Perfect response . . . Journeyman Apr 2019 #10
Can't these idiots go out and do something worthwhile, like chasing a cat or something? Firestorm49 Apr 2019 #7
Or buying a comb. BHDem53 Apr 2019 #11
heh, heh, good one. yonder Apr 2019 #19
Well if they are going to go all in on that they need to change the name of the state sdfernando Apr 2019 #8
If I remember correctly.... moose65 Apr 2019 #31
I agree..and a good portion of them do sdfernando Apr 2019 #32
Yeah moose65 Apr 2019 #33
California is definitley derived from Spanish sdfernando Apr 2019 #34
Following Republican logic, North and South Dakota need to change their names. Lonestarblue Apr 2019 #9
They should all be Native American names ArizonaLib Apr 2019 #13
So they are having a snit fit over adding the location? How petty but how unsurprising to as they cstanleytech Apr 2019 #12
They are European transplants ArizonaLib Apr 2019 #14
And they're only recent parvenues. The French were here long before these germanics. erronis Apr 2019 #25
What unmitigated pieces of shit these motherfuckers are Yeehah Apr 2019 #16
GOPee Snowflakes Hassler Apr 2019 #17
these goddamned mother*ckers EveHammond13 Apr 2019 #18
They must have had a hissy fit when Rick Perry got rid of the name 'Ni--er/Ni--erhead Rock' at his keithbvadu2 Apr 2019 #20
Wow! patphil Apr 2019 #22
Are there any Republicans..... paleotn Apr 2019 #23
Nah. The one here in Iowa had enough of Putin's B---h and left the party. 47of74 Apr 2019 #30
And this, Ladies and Gentlemen is THE very definition of Haggis for Breakfast Apr 2019 #24
+1 dalton99a Apr 2019 #38
Isn't Minnesota the name given to the area by Native Americans, anyway? NewDayOranges Apr 2019 #26
Beat me to it. OilemFirchen Apr 2019 #29
why is nobody calling a spade a spade here? cntrfthrs Apr 2019 #36
Hey Scott Newman........................grow up turbinetree Apr 2019 #37

gtar100

(4,192 posts)
2. Still waiting for republicans to join the human race.
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 04:32 PM
Apr 2019

History did not begin and with Europe. We are long overdue at recognizing the rich cultures that existed in the Americas long before Europeans assumed possession. So revisionist history my ass. The official narrative is revised history. This is a very minor correction. Once again, republicans are on the wrong side of history.

erronis

(15,314 posts)
15. I would rather they rapture themselves away to some phantasmagorical place
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 06:29 PM
Apr 2019

and stop polluting the homo sapiens (reasoning apes).

And maybe they should actually understand evolution and their ancient ancestors who were muck/sea living creatures.

Oh, well.

paleotn

(17,937 posts)
21. Amen and amen!
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 07:37 PM
Apr 2019

My feelings exactly. And for all those about to rapture themselves, here's Curly Bill with a send off....

LakeArenal

(28,831 posts)
3. All the Repukes senators look like Scott Newman
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 04:34 PM
Apr 2019

Coincidence? Nah.... It’s how they like it.
All reflections of themselves.

sdfernando

(4,937 posts)
8. Well if they are going to go all in on that they need to change the name of the state
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 04:47 PM
Apr 2019

Minnesota is a Native American name.

moose65

(3,168 posts)
31. If I remember correctly....
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 01:59 PM
Apr 2019

I think at least half of the states' names come from Native American/Alaskan/Hawaiian words, as they should! In fact, ALL of our states should have some kind of native name.

sdfernando

(4,937 posts)
32. I agree..and a good portion of them do
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 02:04 PM
Apr 2019

especially the mid-northern states....a lot of the western states names come from the Spanish language.

moose65

(3,168 posts)
33. Yeah
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 02:17 PM
Apr 2019

Just off the top of my head: Colorado, Nevada, Montana, Florida are definitely Spanish. One would think that Texas is as well, but I think Texas comes from a Native tribe from Mexico; California isn't a Spanish word as far as I know, but it could possibly be a corruption of one. What else?

Louisiana and Vermont are definitely French. All the others that aren't Native are from English, I guess? Like my own (North) Carolina, named after King Charles.

sdfernando

(4,937 posts)
34. California is definitley derived from Spanish
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 02:28 PM
Apr 2019

"California was the name given to a mythical island populated only by Black Amazon warriors who used gold tools and weapons in the popular early 16th-century romance novel Las Sergas de Esplandián (The Adventures of Esplandián) by Spanish author Garci Rodríguez de Montalvo"

Lonestarblue

(10,036 posts)
9. Following Republican logic, North and South Dakota need to change their names.
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 04:51 PM
Apr 2019

Actually, many of our states’ names are based on Native American words. To Republicans, Native Americans have no rights and shouldn’t even to be considered as part of the country. These lawmakers should look up the origin of their own state name: from Dakota mni-sota, meaning "turbid water.” The noun “turbid” can describe these people too: thick with suspended matter. Their brains were suspended from reality long ago.

ArizonaLib

(1,242 posts)
13. They should all be Native American names
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 06:01 PM
Apr 2019

This is their continent. The Native Americans settled the land before Europeans resettled on their land.

cstanleytech

(26,306 posts)
12. So they are having a snit fit over adding the location? How petty but how unsurprising to as they
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 05:40 PM
Apr 2019

as a party are nothing but petty.

ArizonaLib

(1,242 posts)
14. They are European transplants
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 06:05 PM
Apr 2019

Their ancestors were undocumented immigrants.

Rewriting history? They rewrote it and are upset because their Lilly White version of history is being corrected to reflect actual history.

erronis

(15,314 posts)
25. And they're only recent parvenues. The French were here long before these germanics.
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 08:19 PM
Apr 2019

Most of the current whitey population of Minnie-Soda is from massive invasions in the late 1800's by failed/destitute northern europeans.

No wonder they don't want to share with anyone else. They've had to fight tooth and nail (and bullet and burning faggot) to secure their right to somebody else's land.

keithbvadu2

(36,858 posts)
20. They must have had a hissy fit when Rick Perry got rid of the name 'Ni--er/Ni--erhead Rock' at his
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 07:30 PM
Apr 2019

They must have had a hissy fit when Rick Perry got rid of the name 'Ni--er/Ni--erhead Rock' at his ranch.

paleotn

(17,937 posts)
23. Are there any Republicans.....
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 07:39 PM
Apr 2019

who aren't sguzz buckets? Seriously, are there any with even a modicum of humanity or common decency?

NewDayOranges

(692 posts)
26. Isn't Minnesota the name given to the area by Native Americans, anyway?
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 08:58 PM
Apr 2019

Apparently these yokels don't want anyone to be reminded that this CONTINENT was acquired through theft and attempted genocide of the Native peoples...

OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
29. Beat me to it.
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 10:59 PM
Apr 2019
The name Minnesota is based on the Dakota Sioux word "Mnisota" (the native name for the Minnesota River) which means "cloudy water" or "sky-tinted water."

https://statesymbolsusa.org/symbol-official-item/minnesota/state-name-origin/origin-minnesota

turbinetree

(24,710 posts)
37. Hey Scott Newman........................grow up
Sat Apr 27, 2019, 05:44 PM
Apr 2019

since your an absolute ass, have never thought about looking at what Natives have gone through because of your ilk of bigotry, maybe you should read this book;

The Heartbeat of Wounded Knee: Native America from 1890 to the Present
by David Treuer,

A sweeping history--and counter-narrative--of Native American life from the Wounded Knee massacre to the present.

Dee Brown's 1970 Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee was the first truly popular book of Indian history ever published. But it promulgated the impression that American Indian history essentially ended with the 1890 massacre at Wounded Knee--that not only did one hundred fifty Sioux die at the hands of the U. S. Cavalry but Native civilization did as well.

Growing up Ojibwe on a reservation in Minnesota, training as an anthropologist, and researching Native life past and present for his nonfiction and novels, David Treuer uncovered a different narrative. Instead of disappearing, and despite--or perhaps because of--intense struggles to preserve their language, their culture, their very families, the story of American Indians since the end of the nineteenth century to the present is one of unprecedented growth and rebirth.

In The Heartbeat of Wounded Knee, Treuer melds history with reportage and memoir. Beginning with the tribes' devastating loss of land and the forced assimilation of their children at government-run boarding schools, he shows how the period of greatest adversity also helped to incubate a unifying Native identity. He traces how conscription in the US military and the pull of urban life brought Indians into the mainstream and modern times, even as it steered the emerging shape of their self-rule and spawned a new generation of resistance. In addition, Treuer explores how advances in technology allowed burgeoning Indian populations across the continent to come together as never before, fostering a political force. Photographs, maps, and other visuals, from period advertisements to little-known historical photos, amplify the sense of accessing a fascinating and untold story. The Heartbeat of Wounded Knee is an essential, intimate history--and counter-narrative--of a resilient people in a transformative era.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/36620482-the-heartbeat-of-wounded-knee


And just think Newman, Minnesota still has the dubious honor of hanging over 38 Dakota in Mankota, but not one Confederate General for treason...............................but you think it's just fine a dandy to be a bigot, to try an spin your version of history and not mention the Natives on signs..........................not happening...........

And just maybe you should ask my brother and his wife what they think of your bigotry.........................she is full blood Ojibwe, he his Finish, why don't you ask her about the lakes and the timber and how your ilk always try to re-write history.................with your racism, just because a Native word is added to a sign, that is what this little temper tantrum of your means, do you fully understand what the word means, in Native.................. "two rivers' ................................

And then there is is this from your republican president.......................that is suppose to be your parties hero..............

Largest Mass Execution in US History: 150 Years Ago Today

https://www.thenation.com/article/largest-mass-execution-us-history-150-years-ago-today/

And just maybe you should ask my brother and his wife what they think of your bigotry.........................she is full blood Ojibwe, he his Finish, why don't you ask her about the lakes and the timber and how your ilk always try to re-write history.................with your racism, just because a Native word is added to a sign, that is what this little temper tantrum your means means , do you fully understand what the word means, in Native.................. "two rivers' ................................

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