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brooklynite

(94,604 posts)
Thu Apr 11, 2019, 04:07 PM Apr 2019

Moon Landing by Israel's Beresheet Spacecraft Appears to End in Crash

Source: New York Times

A small spacecraft that has captured the imagination and excitement of people in Israel and around the world appears to have crashed on the moon.

“We have a failure of the spacecraft,” said Opher Doron, the general manager of Israel Aerospace Industries’ space division, which collaborated on building the spacecraft. The mood at the control center was somber but still celebratory.

“Well we didn't make it, but we definitely tried,” said Morris Kahn, an Israeli telecommunications entrepreneur and president of SpaceIL, the nonprofit that undertook the mission. “I think we can be proud.”

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel, who attended the event at the mission’s command center in Yehud, Israel, said, “If at first you don’t succeed, you try again.”

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/11/science/israel-moon-landing-beresheet.html



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Moon Landing by Israel's Beresheet Spacecraft Appears to End in Crash (Original Post) brooklynite Apr 2019 OP
that's a shame. Mosby Apr 2019 #1
Why is going to the moon such a priority? ArizonaLib Apr 2019 #3
I don't know, maybe for the challenge? Mosby Apr 2019 #4
Thanks for the link ArizonaLib Apr 2019 #7
You can of course, y'know... show some initiative and begin a project LanternWaste Apr 2019 #5
Funny! ArizonaLib Apr 2019 #6
Oh that's pretty DRoseDARs Apr 2019 #9
Whelp, looks like it's time again to trot this pony out again... DRoseDARs Apr 2019 #8
We have plenty of natural and clean fuel sources here already ArizonaLib Apr 2019 #13
Wow. DRoseDARs Apr 2019 #17
Thank you! paleotn Apr 2019 #18
Yeah? Well fuck him if he tries to colonize the moon. 3Hotdogs Apr 2019 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author 3Hotdogs Apr 2019 #15
Israel DOES have a lot of Green Projects going on. and many people and nations JI7 Apr 2019 #16
Either to weaponize, or to find a place with no Starbucks alfredo Apr 2019 #22
Been there. Done that. Gore1FL Apr 2019 #2
Wait, something is wrong with that picture... DRoseDARs Apr 2019 #10
Darn. I watched the launch, from my back yard, was looking forward to touchdown. CaptainTruth Apr 2019 #11
.... Blue_Tires Apr 2019 #12
They were hoping they could soon send Niam-ayahoo to the moon. Ligyron Apr 2019 #19
Shame on anyone making light of people losing their lives mac2766 Apr 2019 #20
Beresheet was unmanned. uppityperson Apr 2019 #23
WE WILL ALL DIE IF THEY BLOW UP THE MOON!!!11! jberryhill Apr 2019 #28
Don't be ridiculous... Sapient Donkey Apr 2019 #31
IT'S THE CHEMICALS IN OUR WATER CAUSING RAINBOWS!!!111 uppityperson Apr 2019 #34
I forgot about those. jberryhill Apr 2019 #35
Lol jberryhill Apr 2019 #27
Seriously? Greg K Apr 2019 #32
Crashing. Just like we pray Netti-yahoo's new coalition will soon end up! machoneman Apr 2019 #21
I just think it's odd that Israel has a space program. Aren't there bigger problems to solve? YOHABLO Apr 2019 #24
Israel doesn't have a space program; this is private DavidDvorkin Apr 2019 #25
That is correct, but some look for any excuse to be critical still_one Apr 2019 #26
So true. DavidDvorkin Apr 2019 #30
There were/are many problems in the US and we have a Space Program JI7 Apr 2019 #29
Does a Beresheet in the woods? OriginalGeek Apr 2019 #33

ArizonaLib

(1,242 posts)
3. Why is going to the moon such a priority?
Thu Apr 11, 2019, 04:20 PM
Apr 2019

Agree with you it is a shame. I would think global pollution/waste would be the best bang for any research buck. The fact that PM Ben 'yahu supports it that much makes me wonder if he isn't trying to colonize the moon.

Mosby

(16,319 posts)
4. I don't know, maybe for the challenge?
Thu Apr 11, 2019, 04:29 PM
Apr 2019

I think there were some research projects that were planned. Israel has a fair amount of experience with satellites, they have been sending up different types for years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_Space_Agency

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
5. You can of course, y'know... show some initiative and begin a project
Thu Apr 11, 2019, 04:30 PM
Apr 2019

"I would think global pollution/waste would be the best bang for any research buck..."

You can of course, y'know... show some initiative and begin a project. The only person preventing you from doing so is yourself.

Or you can simply complain about moon colonization.

(I get it though... one isn't very convenient or easy to do, the other is).

ArizonaLib

(1,242 posts)
6. Funny!
Thu Apr 11, 2019, 04:37 PM
Apr 2019

I have and both of my children have - one started an award winning green club at her elementary school. I will give your complaint the consideration it merits. I will plant another tree in my backyard this weekend. Maybe a Chilean Lantern tree.

 

DRoseDARs

(6,810 posts)
8. Whelp, looks like it's time again to trot this pony out again...
Thu Apr 11, 2019, 05:01 PM
Apr 2019
http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/2012-07-16/


Subscript (available below the comic by pressing the red button; later years he included mouseover comments as well)
Too preachy.

Your complaint won't save the whales.





People *really* need to stop with the "Why are we spending money on X when we should be doing Y?" nonsense when it comes to science because it is terribly naive. Science funding isn't a zero sum game. Not all scientists are qualified to work in all fields. Developments and insights from one field can have cross-field application. Then there's the not-small matter of we may need to figure out how to live off-world if it appears the Earth is going to become Human-inhospitable if our species it to survive. We can actually research more than one thing at a time. Be grateful that there are people who dedicate their lives to a particular field of study. Their work might not impact you directly, then again it might. Science is deep, complex, and vast and there are millions of people working to explore it in all its facets. To pick going to Luna as an example, it could become a source of plentiful off-world fuel mined from the regolith, and it gives a nearby test bed for methods of long-term off-world missions to Mars, the Belt and beyond in addition to the research missions already being conducted by deep space probes or Earthbound telescopy.

ArizonaLib

(1,242 posts)
13. We have plenty of natural and clean fuel sources here already
Thu Apr 11, 2019, 06:34 PM
Apr 2019

That was part of my point. What do we need moon travel for? Infant mortality rates are ridiculous for this time in history. How about putting more money into saving babies' lives who probably wouldn't benefit from moon fuel? Funny how the brunette haired lady in the cartoon above is portrayed as closed minded and unable to discuss the issue she goes right to an emotional place and can't discuss it further.

 

DRoseDARs

(6,810 posts)
17. Wow.
Thu Apr 11, 2019, 07:32 PM
Apr 2019

You read I wrote and took away almost none of it or dismissed it outright. I'm reminded of this gal:

https://boingboing.net/2007/09/19/cohost-of-the-view-d.html

Again, not all scientists are qualified to work in your chosen fields for them based on what you feel is or is not important. A paleontologist is not going to get a job as a biochemist. An astronomer isn't going to get a job studying cancer. A rocket scientist isn't going to work as a child psychologist. Funding for science isn't a zero sum game, so if one field gets money another doesn't. You may not personally benefit from something but then again you might. You may be too busy to concern yourself with a certain thing, but millions of others dedicate their lives to its study for the advancement of all science and the benefits that flow from that.

3Hotdogs

(12,393 posts)
14. Yeah? Well fuck him if he tries to colonize the moon.
Thu Apr 11, 2019, 06:55 PM
Apr 2019

If he tries, he will be met with the biggliest, mightiest Space Force in the galaxy.

Response to ArizonaLib (Reply #3)

JI7

(89,252 posts)
16. Israel DOES have a lot of Green Projects going on. and many people and nations
Thu Apr 11, 2019, 07:01 PM
Apr 2019

are interested in colonizing the moon.

why do you have a problem with science and research ?

Ligyron

(7,636 posts)
19. They were hoping they could soon send Niam-ayahoo to the moon.
Thu Apr 11, 2019, 07:55 PM
Apr 2019

They'll keep working at it. Israel never gives up until they are successful. They really have no choice, it's a tuff neighborhood.

Sapient Donkey

(1,568 posts)
31. Don't be ridiculous...
Fri Apr 12, 2019, 04:21 AM
Apr 2019

We won't all die, but it will impact menstrual cycles.


I remember watching some crazy youtube videos leading up to the LCROSS mission.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
27. Lol
Fri Apr 12, 2019, 12:44 AM
Apr 2019

Okay, that’s some funny shit right there.

Care to identify just whom you are talking about?

DavidDvorkin

(19,479 posts)
25. Israel doesn't have a space program; this is private
Thu Apr 11, 2019, 11:31 PM
Apr 2019

This was done by a private, non-profit organization competing for Google's prize money for the first private landing on the moon.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpaceIL

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