Ethiopian Airlines pilots followed Boeing's emergency procedures before crash: report

[brooklynite]

Last edited Wed Apr 3, 2019, 09:48 AM - Edit history (1)

Source: CNN

Pilots flying Ethiopian Airlines Flight 302 initially followed emergency procedures that were laid out by Boeing before the plane nose-dived into the ground, according to preliminary findings reported in the Wall Street Journal.

Citing unnamed sources familiar with the investigation, the WSJ reported that despite following the steps, which included turning off an automated flight-control system, pilots could not regain control of the Boeing 737 MAX 8.

CNN has not been able to confirm details of the report.

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/03/africa/ethiopian-airlines-emergency-procedures-intl/index.html

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How do you spell “class action lawsuit”?

[DirtEdonE]

1. Boeing is poised to lose billions over this

I hope they're happy they chose not to include those two safety systems as standard equipment.

I wonder if the money Boeing made on selling those safety systems as options will offset the billions they're going to lose through lost business and lawsuits?

Not to mention all those lost lives.

Another example of capitalism at its finest.

[lark]

2. I'd sue Boeing and FAA, both are complicit in this tragedy.

Wonder if it was drumpf appointed FAA employees who did this?

[Sherman A1]

3. This plane was in the works well before

Trump so as much as I would love to blame him, don’t think it would work.

That said may the lives of both the Boeing and FAA officials that approved this flying disaster be ever filled with lawyers.

[lark]

5. Damn!

I agree about the lawyer part & let the court costs accelerate to the point it hurts, prior to them going to jail for years.

[Maxheader]

11. I remember product development well...

What happened was one of the propulsion guys developed a high efficiency bi-pass. Bigger diameter cowl
I think was the reason for moving the engines fwd...At the time airbus was developing the a320 I believe.
Boeing, with the new engines was touting a 30% fuel savings..Airbus said no biggy, we'll put the same
engines on the a320. Boeing said, oh yeah? We will add carbon fiber components...make the plane lighter.
Anyway, I remember the war of words...

[watoos]

4. Some how I don't believe that a software fix,

is going to cure the problem in this plane. I admit that I am no expert but I listen to experts talk about heavier engines placed closer to the nose and sensors that give out bad information. Sounds to me like these planes may be lemons.

[Sherman A1]

6. Yup

It is a bad design and needs to be scrapped.

[flotsam]

7. I read elsewhere

that pilots in the simulator had 40 seconds to respond to the problem or they would crash-after 40 seconds even the correct procedures could not save them. I wonder about the timing of the pilots in the Ethiopian crash-was it just seconds too late?

[Sgent]

9. That was optomistic

they were dead as soon as they retracted the flaps on take-off. It would take longer to die if they followed Boeings instructions, but it was unrecoverable to their training. Their was a procedure that *might* could have saved them, but it was last part of the 737 pilots manual during the 737-200 era.

The problem is that with the auto-trim system on the MCAS was pushing the nose down. With the auto-trim off the plane was going so fast at low altitude that they couldn't manually trim (too much force required).

For more info, look at the blockbuster story yesterday from the Seattle Times.

[flotsam]

12. TY N/T

[muriel_volestrangler]

8. Boeing report: pilots followed guidance but could not control Ethiopian plane

Ethiopian Airlines pilots followed proper guidance before the fatal crash of a Boeing 737 Max 8 plane last month, Ethiopia’s transport minister has said as she delivered the first official report on the disaster.

“The crew performed all the procedures repeatedly provided by the manufacturer but was not able to control the aircraft,” Dagmawit Moges told a news conference in Addis Ababa.

She recommended that Boeing review the aircraft control system and that aviation authorities confirm the apparent problem had been solved before allowing the model of plane to fly again. It was grounded globally following the disaster, which was the second deadly crash in six months involving the new model.

“Since repetitive uncommanded aircraft nose-down conditions are noticed … it is recommended that the aircraft control system shall be reviewed by the manufacturer,” she said.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/apr/04/ethiopian-airlines-crash-pilots-followed-procedure-report-finds

[nitpicker]

10. Link to BBC

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-47812225