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FreeState

(10,572 posts)
Wed Mar 20, 2019, 03:10 AM Mar 2019

CBP Detains US Citizen, 9, Accuses Her of Lying About Identity

Source: NBC San Diego

A mother and her 9-year-old daughter were separated for 36 hours after the child fell into U.S. Customs and Border Protection custody because agents at the border didn’t believe she was who she claimed to be.

The 9-year-old and her 14-year-old brother, both passport-holding U.S. citizens, live in Tijuana and cross the border every day, usually in a car, to go to school in San Ysidro.

Thelma Galaxia said her friend, Michelle Cardenas, picked up her daughter Julia and her son Oscar for school Monday morning. Oscar attends San Ysidro High and Julia goes to Nicoloff Elementary School.
When they got in line at the border at 4 a.m. Monday morning, traffic was moving slow.

Cardenas told Julie and Oscar, and her two children, to walk across the border instead. She was going to call them an Uber so they could make it to school on time.

Read more: https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/CBP-Detains-US-Citizen-9-Accuses-Her-of-Being-Someone-Else-507394941.html

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CBP Detains US Citizen, 9, Accuses Her of Lying About Identity (Original Post) FreeState Mar 2019 OP
:mad: elleng Mar 2019 #1
WTF SunSeeker Mar 2019 #2
Brown skin ArizonaLib Mar 2019 #3
WTF?! sakabatou Mar 2019 #4
This has to stop. America is sliding into fascism. sinkingfeeling Mar 2019 #5
I think we are being pushed and pulled into fascism. lark Mar 2019 #7
FIRE ALL THE BASTARDS WHO KIDNAPPED THE CHILDREN ROB-ROX Mar 2019 #6
Arrest Nielsen immediately! Send her to the Hague! lagomorph777 Mar 2019 #11
Maybe we should put her into one of those cages they put the kids into while waiting to be sent alwaysinasnit Mar 2019 #14
Yes. lagomorph777 Mar 2019 #15
Good idea except she might melt, especially if they throw water on her. alwaysinasnit Mar 2019 #16
Whatta world! Whatta world! lagomorph777 Mar 2019 #17
How very Mel Brooks-ian! alwaysinasnit Mar 2019 #18
It's legal to go to public school in the U S, when you live in a foreign country? Honeycombe8 Mar 2019 #8
Yep FreeState Mar 2019 #10
Who pays the taxes for the school? Honeycombe8 Mar 2019 #19
It's a catholic school so there are no taxes paid n/t FreeState Mar 2019 #20
As with many children stay who with grandparents during the week to go to school. haele Mar 2019 #13
I'm so tired of being shocked and outraged PatSeg Mar 2019 #9
The sad thing was all the comments. Juneboarder Mar 2019 #12

ArizonaLib

(1,242 posts)
3. Brown skin
Wed Mar 20, 2019, 04:48 AM
Mar 2019

Hedonistic cruelty as a hobby. Remember how much fun some of the Nazis had being cruel to those being processed into the concentration camp system? How once in the camps, mothers would be in line for showers while the kids were rounded into trucks after being told they were leaving for field trips, etc? Same.

lark

(23,102 posts)
7. I think we are being pushed and pulled into fascism.
Wed Mar 20, 2019, 09:22 AM
Mar 2019

PUtin is pushing drumpf to let out his evil America killing ire and drumpf is pulling us down into the deep mud with him because he wants to make us in his image so he will be worshipped more.

ROB-ROX

(767 posts)
6. FIRE ALL THE BASTARDS WHO KIDNAPPED THE CHILDREN
Wed Mar 20, 2019, 09:20 AM
Mar 2019

They broke the law and the failed to do their job. All people in this organization who failed to protect a citizen should be in prison. Only when the herd is taken care of legally will just be done. This case should be in the regular news!!! Damn biased racists PIGS.....My grand parents were born in Mexico, but I sure do not look Mexican (I have a grandfather who was born in Wales.) I do have cousins who look (brown skin) and have been STOPPED at the border. My cousin verbally beat up the border guards and was allowed into the USA without delay. Organizations fail the public by NOT training their members PROPERLY or having GOOD procedures......I would think their may be thousands of citizens who live south of the border for financial reasons and the border guards know this and they still screw with people crossing the border with DELAYS or other criminal tactics.

alwaysinasnit

(5,066 posts)
14. Maybe we should put her into one of those cages they put the kids into while waiting to be sent
Wed Mar 20, 2019, 02:53 PM
Mar 2019

to the Hague.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
15. Yes.
Wed Mar 20, 2019, 03:06 PM
Mar 2019

And no rush to expedite shipment. Maybe a couple of months in an un-air-condiditoned tent will soften her up this summer.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
8. It's legal to go to public school in the U S, when you live in a foreign country?
Wed Mar 20, 2019, 09:50 AM
Mar 2019

It's legal to go to public school in the U S, when you live in a foreign country? I've never heard of that. But living in a foreign country means you're not paying school taxes. Maybe it's legal, but I've never heard of that. I thought that not only do you have to live in the country, but yu have to live in the school district. Many Americans use relative's addresses, so their kids can go to certain public schools. I've known people who have done that, from decades ago to now.

FreeState

(10,572 posts)
10. Yep
Wed Mar 20, 2019, 11:18 AM
Mar 2019

Lots of people on the boarder do it. It much cheaper to live in Mexico and work in the US as well.

We have a school next to our house that has close to 800 students, not one student lives in our neighborhood. The school is a private and ran out of a different city - our city literally gets no tax dollars from them but yet we pay for the roads, police etc.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
19. Who pays the taxes for the school?
Wed Mar 20, 2019, 04:32 PM
Mar 2019

Just because people do it doesn't mean it's legal. Like I said, I've known quite a few people who use relative's addresses, so they can go to the school in that district. Because it's illegal to live out of the district and go to the school. Maybe it varies by state?

Recently in the news, a woman was jailed for using a false address to send her kid to a school out of her area.

Maybe it varies by state. I don't think it's legal to live out of the district in Texas and Louisiana, the two states I've lived in. Because the school taxes go to pay for the schools in the district you live in. Maybe other states do it differently.

haele

(12,659 posts)
13. As with many children stay who with grandparents during the week to go to school.
Wed Mar 20, 2019, 01:07 PM
Mar 2019

Grandparents are paying the district taxes, and in some areas, the school nearest a grandparent or other relative is near a better school than the one the parents are living near. Or the parent(s) are working long hours and the grandparent becomes the guardian during the school week because there's no money for daycare between 5 am and 7 pm.

Or the parents are divorced/separated for some reason and father is living in the U.S as a citizen, and this is the normal Monday - Friday turn-over.
Mom might be living miles away from Dad for any number of reasons, and has the kids visiting a lot, but the father is considered custodial, so the kids go to the school district where he lives.
These are the sorts of guardian/custodial/parent location situations that a school district has to consider in normal situations. And some districts have handshake agreements that allow kids to go to schools in other districts depending on the needs of the kids or available resources.

The only difference here is that San Ysidro/Tijuana are international border towns instead of suburban sprawl around a city hub.
And the kids were Hispanic-American.

Haele

Juneboarder

(1,732 posts)
12. The sad thing was all the comments.
Wed Mar 20, 2019, 11:40 AM
Mar 2019

I know better than to read comments, but it's slightly interesting to see what people have to say. There sure is a lot of hate out there from the right side, unfortunately.

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