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Judi Lynn

(160,542 posts)
Fri Mar 8, 2019, 09:27 PM Mar 2019

Trump, Brazil President Jair Bolsonaro to discuss Venezuela during White House visit

Source: Globe and Mail


WASHINGTON
REUTERS
PUBLISHED 2 HOURS AGO

Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro will visit the White House on March 19 and is expected to discuss subjects including the situation in Venezuela with U.S. President Donald Trump, the White House said in a statement.

Bolsonaro is a far-right former army captain who openly admires Trump. In a phone call after Bolsonaro’s election victory in October, they spoke of “a strong commitment to work side by side” on issues affecting their countries.

Even before taking office in January, Bolsonaro pledged to oppose the government of Venezuela, where an economic crisis has caused millions of people to flee, many to neighbouring Brazil.

Since taking power, Bolsonaro has stepped up criticism of Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro’s government and recognized Juan Guaido, the opposition leader and self-declared president, as the leader of the OPEC member nation.

Read more: https://beta.theglobeandmail.com/world/article-trump-brazil-president-jair-bolsonaro-to-discuss-venezuela-during/

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Trump, Brazil President Jair Bolsonaro to discuss Venezuela during White House visit (Original Post) Judi Lynn Mar 2019 OP
Trump to host Brazil's Bolsonaro at White House this month Judi Lynn Mar 2019 #1
Bolsonaro is a truly horrifying figure ZeroSomeBrains Mar 2019 #3
So true. He even praises the torture employed by the military dictatorship in Brazil. Judi Lynn Mar 2019 #8
No Hamberders this time dustyscamp Mar 2019 #6
Will he address him as President Brazil? efhmc Mar 2019 #2
He probably couldn't find Brazil on a god damn map. Crowman2009 Mar 2019 #5
+1 area51 Mar 2019 #7
Yeah, this is going to be great for Venezuela! *sarcasm* Crowman2009 Mar 2019 #4
There are people who post whose ideology has nothing to do with democrats, unfortunately. Judi Lynn Mar 2019 #9
There is no need for military intervention ripcord Mar 2019 #10
Why should any country be forced to pay off a monopolistic corporation? Farmer-Rick Mar 2019 #11
When you get caught stealing you normally have to pay resitution ripcord Mar 2019 #12
What? Stealing their own oil? Farmer-Rick Mar 2019 #14
Venezuela had a contract with Conoco ripcord Mar 2019 #15
All those Unions that got wiped out also had contracts Farmer-Rick Mar 2019 #18
No, Conoco's oil rigs (nt) Recursion Mar 2019 #16
There are some with agendas wanting to lead people who don't know better the oil giants were victims Judi Lynn Mar 2019 #17
Signing a oil contract with a company to extract oil for you and the seizing the machinery/oil rigs EX500rider Mar 2019 #20
"a monopolistic corporation" EX500rider Mar 2019 #19
Trump's "Coalition of the Willing" Against Venezuela Has Legitimacy Issues of Their Own Miguel M Mar 2019 #13

Judi Lynn

(160,542 posts)
1. Trump to host Brazil's Bolsonaro at White House this month
Fri Mar 8, 2019, 09:35 PM
Mar 2019

BY TAL AXELROD - 03/08/19 06:33 PM EST

President Trump will host Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro at the White House later this month to discuss a range of issues, including "restoring democracy in Venezuela."

The White House said the March 19 meeting will focus on “how to build a more prosperous, secure, and democratic Western Hemisphere.”

. . .

Bolsonaro’s populist policies have led many to draw parallels between him and Trump, earning him the nickname “Trump of the Tropics.”

He’s raised eyebrows for praising Brazil’s former military dictatorship, advocating for torture, threatening to jail political opponents and criticizing women and the LGBTQ community.

More:
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/433303-trump-to-host-brazils-bolsonaro-at-white-house-this-month

ZeroSomeBrains

(638 posts)
3. Bolsonaro is a truly horrifying figure
Fri Mar 8, 2019, 10:39 PM
Mar 2019

It is accurate to describe him as a fascist. He has also called for a genocide of the indigenous people in the Amazon. Both of the individuals at the White House will not be remembered kindly to history.

Judi Lynn

(160,542 posts)
8. So true. He even praises the torture employed by the military dictatorship in Brazil.
Sat Mar 9, 2019, 12:39 AM
Mar 2019

He rose in the Legislature to dedicate his vote to impeach the progressive President, Dilma Rousseff, who had been imprisoned and tortured for a couple of years by the dictatorship, to the actual torturer who personally tortured Dilma. You can't get any lower than that.



Dilma Rousseff, sitting before the military court.
Very interesting to see the judges trying to hide
their nasty faces from the photographer.

Witnesses in later years said Dilma was extremely
courageous under wild mistreatment in prison.

Viva, Dilma Rousseff.

Down with the vicious fascists who have stolen power again.



Crowman2009

(2,497 posts)
4. Yeah, this is going to be great for Venezuela! *sarcasm*
Fri Mar 8, 2019, 10:51 PM
Mar 2019

Last edited Sat Mar 9, 2019, 10:31 PM - Edit history (1)

I can't believe there are people on DU who think military intervention is a good idea. Apparently they ignore the times we spread facism....I mean democracy in Latin America. No way do I trust the Orange Shitgibbon and Pinochet 2.0.

Judi Lynn

(160,542 posts)
9. There are people who post whose ideology has nothing to do with democrats, unfortunately.
Sat Mar 9, 2019, 01:01 AM
Mar 2019

Last edited Sat Mar 9, 2019, 01:36 AM - Edit history (1)

After watching their manner long enough, a person sees what becomes unavoidably clear.

They are capable of flying beneath the radar, attacking Democrats and progressives at the personal level, which itself distinguishes them from actual progressives, and come to keep genuine progressive communication from being conducted peacefully.

Many progressives have left in disgust, which is undoubtedly celebrated as huge wins by these critters, but there are many who prefer to continue just to see the information gets an airing, no matter how many attackers it attracts.

Your instincts are accurate.

ripcord

(5,408 posts)
10. There is no need for military intervention
Sat Mar 9, 2019, 02:28 PM
Mar 2019

The noose is already tightening and just the other day the World Bank ruled that Venezuela has to pay over $8 billion to Conoco Phillips for expropriating their assets. Maduro is losing support every day, I wish this could end sooner but I don't really see how our bringing our military to bear would help.

Farmer-Rick

(10,183 posts)
11. Why should any country be forced to pay off a monopolistic corporation?
Sun Mar 10, 2019, 09:25 AM
Mar 2019

$8 billion to Conoco Phillips??????? Profit over people. Then we wonder why Venezuela is in such turmoil. This is how capitalism attacks socialistic countries.

One of the most profitable corporations in history is sucking dry Venezuela. And people want to blame Maduro and Chavez?

Farmer-Rick

(10,183 posts)
14. What? Stealing their own oil?
Sun Mar 10, 2019, 03:04 PM
Mar 2019

Yeah right, like oil and gas giant corporation didn't steal it from citizens to begin with.

ripcord

(5,408 posts)
15. Venezuela had a contract with Conoco
Sun Mar 10, 2019, 04:25 PM
Mar 2019

They violated the contract and took all the infrastructure Conoco built, what did you think the ruling would be? Would you be OK with Trump expropriating private assists without any compensarion?

Farmer-Rick

(10,183 posts)
18. All those Unions that got wiped out also had contracts
Mon Mar 11, 2019, 01:08 PM
Mar 2019

The Air Traffic controller unions also had contracts but it didn't seem to bother Raygun when he fired them all. When a corporation declares bankruptcy all hose pension contracts are wiped out by the judiciary.

When Thatcher directed the murders of the mine workers, they had Union contracts too.

Seems contracts always favor the uber rich. Because the laws are rigged in their favor especially in capitalistic countries. So don't dare to stand up to them or you end up having to not only fight political battles in your country but you get to fight all the rich oligarchs in the US too.

Judi Lynn

(160,542 posts)
17. There are some with agendas wanting to lead people who don't know better the oil giants were victims
Sun Mar 10, 2019, 10:35 PM
Mar 2019

Last edited Sun Mar 10, 2019, 11:09 PM - Edit history (1)

Anyone sober, or otherwise competent would know instantly what a whopper that is.

Just one of many articles:

JUNE 26, 2007 / 2:36 PM / 12 YEARS AGO
Chavez drives Exxon and ConocoPhillips from Venezuela
Brian Ellsworth
5 MIN READ

CARACAS (Reuters) - President Hugo Chavez pushed U.S. oil giants Exxon Mobil and ConocoPhillips out of Venezuela on Tuesday in a nationalization drive the United States said could hurt its oil supply.

Exxon Mobil (XOM.N) and ConocoPhillips (COP.N) quit their oil operations in the OPEC nation after they failed to strike a deal to stay in multibillion-dollar projects that the anti-U.S. leader decreed should be taken over.

ConocoPhillips said it would have to knock $4.5 billion (2.5 billion pounds) off its balance sheet after losing its assets in two Orinoco ventures and one smaller project, though it had previously said it believed the assets are worth substantially more.

Four other oil majors — Chevron (CVX.N), Norway’s Statoil STL.OL, BP (BP.L) and France’s Total (TOTF.PA) — signed pacts allowing Venezuela to increase its stake to as much as percent 83 percent in projects worth $30 billion.

More:
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-venezuela-nationalization-oil/chavez-drives-exxon-and-conocophillips-from-venezuela-idUKN2637895020070626

What a shock it was when the Orange Nightmare took Exxon CEO Rex Tillerson as his Secretary of State, wasn't it?

Poor, poor Exxon:

"If ExxonMobil were a country, its economy would be bigger than Ireland's."


Victims? Probably NOT.

EX500rider

(10,849 posts)
20. Signing a oil contract with a company to extract oil for you and the seizing the machinery/oil rigs
Mon Mar 11, 2019, 02:46 PM
Mar 2019

....is known as theft.

EX500rider

(10,849 posts)
19. "a monopolistic corporation"
Mon Mar 11, 2019, 02:42 PM
Mar 2019

Wow, so Conoco is the only oil company in the world? Who knew??

mo·nop·o·ly
noun
The exclusive possession or control of the supply of or trade in a commodity or service.

 

Miguel M

(234 posts)
13. Trump's "Coalition of the Willing" Against Venezuela Has Legitimacy Issues of Their Own
Sun Mar 10, 2019, 11:55 AM
Mar 2019

Trump's "Coalition of the Willing" Against Venezuela Has Legitimacy Issues of Their Own






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