Trump Announces He'll Sign Exec Order Requiring Colleges and Universities to 'Support Free Speech'

[DonViejo]

Source: Mediaite



by Josh Feldman | Mar 2nd, 2019, 1:56 pm

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Trump made the announcement after inviting Hayden Williams, the conservative activist attacked at Berkeley, to the stage to speak. Williams briefly spoke and the president followed up with words of praise.

“He took a punch for all of us,” Trump said. “And we could never allow that to happen. And here is, in closing with Hayden, here’s the good news. He’s going to be a wealthy young man.”

After Williams thanked the president and walked off-stage, Trump announced the executive order:

“Today I’m proud to announce that I will be very soon signing an executive order requiring colleges and universities to support free speech if they want federal research dollars. If they want our dollars, and we give it to them by the billions, they’ve got to allow people like Hayden and many other great young people and old people to speak. Free speech. If they don’t, it will be costly. That will be signed soon.”

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[Ferrets are Cool]

1. Fucking asshole. nt

[Scurrilous]

2. Another MAGA hat martyr.

[allgood33]

37. Tell me this is the Onion, please. It can't be real.

Forced free speech...???WTF????

[brandnewday2009]

42. Sadly, it is actual

I read the story at the Chronicle of Higher Education earlier today.

The guy who ran Rump University has no business telling a college how to manage policy. He is a dictator. Not even pretending anymore. He must be STOPPED.

[brandnewday2009]

43. link

https://www.chronicle.com/article/Trump-Says-He-ll-Sign-Order/245812?fbclid=IwAR3bNmZNgSAWP0fVRFoK38SUJmbJAhlq2L0ZuSTEjo4ldh6rxhEH9ijfP0k

[Kablooie]

3. Which is dog whistle talk for right wing propaganda.

I’m sure they will be free to block any liberal presentations.

[jmowreader]

21. Yes they will

I wonder...what would happen if these individuals Trump wants to infect the minds of our impressionable yutes were given the smallest conference rooms the college had, given very little publicity and no mention in the campus newspaper?

[certainot]

33. there are 88+ universities supporting 260 limbaugh stations by

broadcasting sports on them

all those stations have been screaming about 'liberal' professors, 'political correctness', and setting up the lies and distorted memes and alt realities those con speakers try to sell.

the republicons will scream bloody murder if protestors at those unis try to get them to look for apolitical alternatives to broadcast sports on, thereby scaring away their advertisers. they will claim the school can't make decisions based on politics! even though all limbaugh stations serve the GOP 12-15 hrs/per day. very few if any of those stations aren't 100% republican megaphones

it is inevitable students at those universities start protests like that when they figure it out. maybe the cons are trying to head it off before hand - but it won't matter - as soon as advertisers see the discussion happening they will have to decide if they want to support trump or not. most will go elsewhere. and when it happens at one school others will follow.

[uppityperson]

4. Don the Con is so stupid

[jberryhill]

5. How much federal money does Liberty University get?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2015/07/15/liberty-university-a-hub-of-conservative-politics-owes-rapid-growth-to-federal-student-loans/?utm_term=.cb52bea33ce8

Liberty University, a hub of conservative politics, owes rapid growth to federal student loans

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Hmmmmm....

[safeinOhio]

16. Does this mean LU will now have to allow

atheist, Communist and others speak there....Backfire.

[TeamPooka]

38. yup. we're going to free spech the heck out the place

[pnwmom]

48. They will need women to come there to talk about why they had abortions.

[oldsoftie]

53. If a group invites them, yes. They invited Bernie Sanders during the campaign & he went.

If its a rule for one, it better be a rule for ALL, or it'll get tossed. Assuming THIS doesnt get tossed.

[ProudLib72]

24. It's a good thing DeVos is on top of the whole federal loan thing

I'm sure she'll have people looking into this as soon as Monday. Right? Amirite? No?

[hughee99]

58. Are research grants and student loans the same thing?

I didn’t think they were.

[Dan]

6. I have faith in Donald Trump

That by the time the executive order is written and signed, it will indicate that he is requiring colleges and universitities to support hate speech, if they want federal research dollars.

[Iliyah]

7. Isn't that the 1st Amendment?

[catbyte]

14. He's probably not aware of it. After all, he doesn't know that Washington DC already has a July 4th

celebration. Idiot. What a goddamned embarrassment.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

8. They already do.

They just don't support hate speech or conspiracy theories.

[2naSalit]

49. +1

[RandySF]

9. Can't be enforced without legislation.

[marble falls]

10. He makes me wonder where the other two stooges are.

[deurbano]

11. It was the Guardian reporter who took a punch (body slam) for all of us:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=16&v=dW42IV3LExg

[RKP5637]

12. Spoken like a true wannabee dictator! n/t

[dogman]

13. Wait until he finds out what free speech means.

He would not like it for minorities to be guaranteed a platform.

[muriel_volestrangler]

15. Culture wars. He wants to give the far right endless time in courts, and on TV,

saying they are "oppressed", and painting universities as an enemy. It won't matter to his followers, him, or his controllers, whether they actually succeed in any court in having a university found to have 'prevented free speech'. It's enough for them that they can paint anyone intelligent as "the enemy of the people". If a court finds against Trump's minions, they'll just paint the court as "elitist" and "university educated".


It's not enough for them to say the media is the "enemy of the people"; they need everyone who points out what Trump's crimes are, or that he (and his backers) are trashing the environment, and the economy, and relations with other countries, to be "enemies" as well.

This will be like the "War on Christmas", but it'll be about insisting RWers get paid by universities to give talks, and they'll scream "oppression!" the moment someone refuses. It'll be theater, on TV and in the courts.

[Honeycombe8]

17. Depends on how it's worded. "Support free speech" is vague & meaningless.

Seems it just gives someone denied access an avenue for a lawsuit.

Or maybe the EO should be challenged in the courts up front. Universities do not to abide by some laws that public institutions do, because they are private.

Still, it is well known that any company or organization that takes federal dollars have to abide by some federal laws, like affirmative action.

[mahatmakanejeeves]

29. It probably means that his supporters want to require biology departments to

give equal time to the teaching of creationism, or the schools loses their federal funding.

Old cases never die. They keep getting dug up by people who refuse to learn.

Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District

[samnsara]

18. i think the locals can declare 'hate speech' off limits

[Nasruddin]

19. Free speech or you'll pay for it

It turns out free speech isn't free, then?

[The Liberal Lion]

20. trump pulling the victim card again

simply sickening

[Solly Mack]

22. Slime

[NYC Liberal]

23. Ok but they also can't control how the audience will react.

Let them show up and get the Andrew Card treatment:

https://m.

[yaesu]

25. Doublespeak, as in 1984, is something the fascist republicans and Hitler use to control a population

to control colleges & universities to turn in people, to arrest those who don't go along with party lines. Our fascist government is getting more dangerous by the day.

[SummerSnow]

26. hE WANTS WHITE STUDENTS AND NON WHITE STUDENTS TO FIGHT ON CAMPUS AND POSSIBLY KILL EACH OTHER.

SORRY FOR THE CAPS, MY COMPUTER IS ACTING UP.


HE WANTS STRAIGHT UP RACISM ON THE CAMPUS. thousands OF DOLLARS FOR EVERY N WORD THAT IS SAID

[mercuryblues]

27. Why would the guy get "very wealthy"

The University allowed his free speech. They even spoke out against and investigated the assault.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

28. Speech is free. Protection of people and property costs a fortune.

And still, there will be property damage to pay for. Damage by right-wingers and other balaclava-wearing groups of vandals.

Trump going to pay for that?

[JohnnyRingo]

30. Wingnuts will be allowed to speak, but they may not want to.

I'm not sure universities will be required to ensure the safety of anyone capable of stepping up on a soapbox and incendiary speech can have consequences. Shitpot stirrers will attend merely to hopefully get a video recording of "intolerance" on the left, but that hurts little if the speaker is wearing a hood or a swastika. "Hey! Liberal college students cut the mic on a Nazi!! Call the Post."

Sure, conservatives like Pat Buchanen, Glenn Beck, or Walter Williams will be able to voice their opinions by law, but who cares? As mainstream crackpots they'd likely just gather a small crowd and not much backlash from the student body anyway. Without massive attention, they won't come back.

Really, Trump's XO only serves anti-social hate speech that goes over the line of what is decent. Go figger.

[LiberalFighter]

31. Laws and Constitution trump his EO's

[Mr.Bill]

32. How about if states pass laws that

no one is allowed to charge a fee for speaking at a state college or university?

Let's keep free speech "free".

[Miigwech]

34. Did the Dotard ever attend a real University?

Free thinking, liberal thinking has always sought to allow for Free Speech on University campuses ... not allowed on RW religious campuses ... so maybe this is plus for free speech at religious so called universities?

[C_U_L8R]

35. Free speech

Is the right to tell Trump and his racist goons to fuck off

[nini]

36. 'Free' or 'Hate'?

Because we really know what he means here.

[paleotn]

39. It will never fly.

It will be tied up in court for ages. Kind of a legal make work project. Red meat for the nuts, but not much more.

[erpowers]

40. Freedom of Speech is not Freedom From Criticism

For years I have felt Republican do not want freedom of speech; they want freedom from criticism. They want to be freed to say whatever they want and not be challenged by anyone. They want to give speeches and have everyone in the room cheer their comments. They want to speak up in class and have teachers nod their heads in approval and not correct them or demand the Republicans provide proof for their comment(s).

Republicans want, on college campuses, what Matt Schlapp recently demanded the main stream media do for Donald Trump. Schlapp mainly demanded that the main stream media stop telling their viewers that Trump is telling a lie when Trump lies. Republicans want to be able to make false statement and have teachers and other student not be able to tell them they are wrong.

People have a right to make comments. However, other people also have a right to express their opposition to the comments made by their fellow students and guests of the school. Anyone has the right to make a speech at a college campus. However, the students of that college campus have a right to hold a protest in order to show their disapproval of the person making those remarks, or the remarks being made.

[BlueIdaho]

41. See you in court

Asshole.

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

44. Next he'll want to get rid of degrees in "liberal arts."

Clearly, anything with the word "liberal" in it has to be anti-American.

BTW, has anyone heard whether Fat Donnie's bone spurs have healed since he returned from Vietnam?

[Efilroft Sul]

45. So the guy who banned Jim Acosta from the White House press pool in November...

…wants people to believe he's a champion of the First Amendment on college campuses?

Mmm-hmm.

[Takket]

46. forcing colleges to provide a speaking platofrm in exchange for funding is

literally the OPPOSITE of free speech. Forcing speech upon an entity that does not want it violates the 1A.

[SWBTATTReg]

47. This is idiotic. And how do they enforce such an idiotic decree as this? Like others said ...

in the post trends, seems to already state the obvious, free speech amendment, etc. Runs counter to the free speech amendment and will be blocked in the courts and struck down as it should be. Don't unilaterally add an amendment to the constitution by yourself. Abuse of power.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

50. Becuase Gawd knows

You have the right to call a black guy the N word or a woman the C word.

[PatrickforO]

51. You know what would REALLY help?

A plan to make college more affordable and accessible, particularly to minority students. No American kid, and that includes the Dreamers, should graduate from college into debt slavery. Because face it - a kid who graduates with $37K in debt and has to pay $350/month can't afford all the things we afforded when we were that age.

Basically, we have allowed our children and grandchildren to be victimized by predatory capitalism and it's got to stop.

[beachbum bob]

52. so that means liberals can talk at conservative colleges and universiites? SWEET

[Nitram]

54. What Trump means is "hate speech."

[Grins]

55. Neither Hayden Williams, nor his alledged attacker, were students at Cal-Berkeley. NM

[riversedge]

56. Williams was granted a table to exhibit his hate speech on campus.

[jayfish]

57. One of Our Most Valuable Crown Jewels,...

American research universities, and Trump wants to fuck those up too. Is there anything this man won't destroy?

[Initech]

59. Yes, white supremacists have the right to free speech.

But... I also have the right to say "Fuck those fucking assholes" and I will continue to do so.