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Zorro

(15,740 posts)
Sat Mar 2, 2019, 12:08 AM Mar 2019

Anti-Muslim Display Gets Tempers Flaring Around W.Va. House; Leads to Resignation, Injury

Source: West Virginia Public Broadcasting

Anti-Muslim sentiments seen just outside of the West Virginia House of Delegates Friday caused an explosive day in and around the chamber, which led to the resignation of a staff member, an injury and possible disciplinary action against a Democratic member.

A display in the rotunda during “WV GOP Day” sparked a day’s worth of controversy in which the chamber’s Sergeant at Arms submitted a letter of resignation. House Republican leaders say the reaction to that display and other comments led also to a doorkeeper being injured when a Democratic member kicked open the doors to the chamber.

The West Virginia Republican Party and other organizations had set up displays as part of the scheduled activities around the Capitol. One group had an exhibit that included a poster depicting a meme with two photos.

The top photo showed planes crashing into the Twin Towers in New York City on September 11, 2001 with the text “‘Never Forget’ - You Said.” Below that photo was a photo of U.S. Congresswoman Ilhan Omar, D- Minn and text “I Am Proof - You Have Forgotten.”

Read more: http://www.wvpublic.org/post/anti-muslim-display-gets-tempers-flaring-around-wva-house-leads-resignation-injury



Republicans never stop being assholes.
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Anti-Muslim Display Gets Tempers Flaring Around W.Va. House; Leads to Resignation, Injury (Original Post) Zorro Mar 2019 OP
As I posted in another discussion of this horrible display.... Staph Mar 2019 #1
sometimes I can't stand it yerop Mar 2019 #2
The poster and Omar's tweet, "no wonder I am on the 'hitlist'" progree Mar 2019 #3
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2019 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Mar 2019 #9
No wonder indeed ck4829 Mar 2019 #24
West Virginia needs to be boycotted 47of74 Mar 2019 #4
I'd boycott West Va, except that I have no desire to ever visit there in the first place. Aristus Mar 2019 #5
Is NYC full of rude people who will just as soon shove you out of the way as look at you? Jedi Guy Mar 2019 #6
Thank You Ginger Snapped Mar 2019 #11
Well said. appalachiablue Mar 2019 #17
Keep throwing... something will stick to wall if not that one. LanternWaste Mar 2019 #27
You're a real one-trick pony, you know that? N/T Jedi Guy Mar 2019 #28
mountain woman Ginger Snapped Mar 2019 #12
Yes. I hate this kind of bigotry, this kind of provincialism, this kind of backwardness. Aristus Mar 2019 #19
I'll bite my tongue and actually give you a resource Cal Carpenter Mar 2019 #13
Thanks for the post. JD Vance, self serving Silicon Valley appalachiablue Mar 2019 #16
"Appalachia Deserves More Than JD Vance" By Eliz. Catte, Feb. 1, 2018: appalachiablue Mar 2019 #22
I read it. Quite a while ago. Aristus Mar 2019 #18
Really? Because it just came out 2 weeks ago n/t Cal Carpenter Mar 2019 #20
You do this regularly and your invective for a place appalachiablue Mar 2019 #14
K&R Scurrilous Mar 2019 #7
NO NO NO Ginger Snapped Mar 2019 #10
Thanks, I know there are and were good Dems in WVa for sure. appalachiablue Mar 2019 #15
She's my Congresswoman, Scruffy1 Mar 2019 #21
Disgusting, but not unexpected. Behind the Aegis Mar 2019 #23
Horrible, but more of the same, and expect more ck4829 Mar 2019 #25
In my opinion, such hatred is never sucessful forklift Mar 2019 #26

Staph

(6,251 posts)
1. As I posted in another discussion of this horrible display....
Sat Mar 2, 2019, 02:16 AM
Mar 2019

This display was put up by ACT for America, an anti-Muslim group. According to the Southern Poverty Law Center, "ACT for America is listed as an anti-Muslim hate group because it pushes wild anti-Muslim conspiracy theories, denigrates American Muslims and deliberately conflates mainstream and radical Islam."

Here's the basic story, from the folks on the ground.

https://www.wsaz.com/content/news/Controversy-erupts-over-hate-speech-poster-on-display-in-WVa-Capitol-rotunda-506560451.html


There is an odd interview of the woman who put up the poster on the Twitter feed of the West Virginia Democratic party:





The tweet says "Today at @WVGOP day, a vendor displayed a sign promoting HATE towards Muslim Americans. Here’s what she had to say... #wvpol", and has a handheld video. A truly bizarre woman! The comments, for the most part, would make any Democrat proud!

 

yerop

(89 posts)
2. sometimes I can't stand it
Sat Mar 2, 2019, 02:48 AM
Mar 2019

Even the unindicted war criminal GWB said not to target Muslims over 9/11.

progree

(10,908 posts)
3. The poster and Omar's tweet, "no wonder I am on the 'hitlist'"
Sat Mar 2, 2019, 02:48 AM
Mar 2019
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No wonder why I am on the “Hitlist” of a domestic terrorist and “Assassinate Ilhan Omar” is written on my local gas stations.

Look no further, the GOP's anti-Muslim display likening me to a terrorist rocks in state capitols and no one is condemning them! https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/gop-s-anti-muslim-display-likening-rep-omar-terrorist-rocks-n978371

Response to progree (Reply #3)

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47of74

(18,470 posts)
4. West Virginia needs to be boycotted
Sat Mar 2, 2019, 09:44 AM
Mar 2019

Traveling there, events there, and doing business with companies based in the state.

Aristus

(66,380 posts)
5. I'd boycott West Va, except that I have no desire to ever visit there in the first place.
Sat Mar 2, 2019, 11:23 AM
Mar 2019

I mean: what the hell for? To see a vast mountaintop-removal slag heap? Get threatening looks from inbred hillbillies who hate and distrust outsiders?

If this is an unfair stereotype of West Virginia, then please, will some advocate for West Virginia prove me wrong?

Jedi Guy

(3,191 posts)
6. Is NYC full of rude people who will just as soon shove you out of the way as look at you?
Sat Mar 2, 2019, 12:25 PM
Mar 2019

Is Texas full of cowboy hat-wearing hicks? Is California populated solely by New Age kooks who are worried about their auras? Is Canada full of super-polite people who are always extra nice? Does everyone in France wear a beret and a striped shirt, and live solely on cheese and wine? Are all progressives snobbish and condescending towards people from "flyover country"? There are stereotypes about every country/state/city and its people, but they're no more true than stereotypes about racial groups.

I grew up in Mississippi (though I don't have the southern accent) and people always assume that Southerners are idiots and/or racists. Funnily enough, I've heard far more racial slurs here in Canada than I ever heard in Mississippi, or in Arizona, for that matter. You'll find racism and stupidity everywhere you go, unfortunately.

While I'm sure there are parts of WV that are similar to what you describe, I'm sure there are also plenty of nice people, plenty of well-educated people, plenty of people accepting of those who are different. There are Democrats in West Virginia, after all. This attitude of disdain and contempt for people who live outside of progressive strongholds is one of the reasons that some perceive the left as elitist.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
27. Keep throwing... something will stick to wall if not that one.
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 02:40 PM
Mar 2019

"live outside of progressive strongholds is one of the reasons that some perceive the left as elitist..."

Keep throwing... sooner or later, a bumper sticker or fortune cookie lacking any objective evidence top support it will stick to wall if not that one.

Ginger Snapped

(15 posts)
12. mountain woman
Sat Mar 2, 2019, 05:28 PM
Mar 2019

I am from West Virginia, and I wish you wouldn't use your hate paint brush
on all of us. Looks like there is as much hate in DU as in the republican party

Aristus

(66,380 posts)
19. Yes. I hate this kind of bigotry, this kind of provincialism, this kind of backwardness.
Sat Mar 2, 2019, 09:16 PM
Mar 2019

The people doing it were elevated to positions of power by the people of West Virginia. If you believe, as I do, that the people of W. Va deserve better leadership, then please convince people who believe as you do to join you in throwing these bastards out of office.

Cal Carpenter

(4,959 posts)
13. I'll bite my tongue and actually give you a resource
Sat Mar 2, 2019, 05:32 PM
Mar 2019

Here, get this book and read it:

https://wvupressonline.com/node/774

Appalachian Reckoning

Appalachian Reckoning is a retort, at turns rigorous, critical, angry, and hopeful, to the long shadow Hillbilly Elegy has cast over the region and its imagining. But it also moves beyond Hillbilly Elegy to allow Appalachians from varied backgrounds to tell their own diverse and complex stories through an imaginative blend of scholarship, prose, poetry, and photography. The essays and creative work collected in Appalachian Reckoning provide a deeply personal portrait of a place that is at once culturally rich and economically distressed, unique and typically American. Complicating simplistic visions that associate the region almost exclusively with death and decay, Appalachian Reckoning makes clear Appalachia’s intellectual vitality, spiritual richness, and progressive possibilities.


For the record, I'm not from West Virginia or anywhere else in Appalachia. And I've traveled around that area and certainly felt uncomfortable at times as an outsider. But I sure as shit recognize that, like anywhere else, there are lots of individuals with lots of attitudes and beliefs. Your comment reminds me of right-wingers in the middle of the country who are obsessed with Trump's wall but have rarely met an immigrant in their goddamn lives. Or the people who have never had a meaningful conversation, let alone a friendship, with a Muslim woman and think they are all submissive to their misogynistic husbands.

appalachiablue

(41,138 posts)
16. Thanks for the post. JD Vance, self serving Silicon Valley
Sat Mar 2, 2019, 06:18 PM
Mar 2019

sellout, libertarian and corporate lawyer who supports Kavanaugh. 'Hillbilly Elegy,' Vance's biographical book about growing up in Hicksville- appalachian, southern Ohio lacks reference to any major works on the subject and came out right after the 2016 election. It quickly became the darling of the left and right and 'white working class America' received the blunt of blame for Trump's election.

appalachiablue

(41,138 posts)
22. "Appalachia Deserves More Than JD Vance" By Eliz. Catte, Feb. 1, 2018:
Sat Mar 2, 2019, 11:59 PM
Mar 2019

Last edited Sun Mar 3, 2019, 12:52 AM - Edit history (1)

Toward the end of 2016, just when many Americans were looking for an explanation for how Donald Trump became a presidential candidate then president, *Hillbilly Elegy* by J.D. Vance hit stores and shot to the top of the New York Times best seller list. The book, Vance’s memoir and analysis of Appalachian culture and rural poverty, offered conservatives and liberals alike a perspective on the poor white America they held responsible for electing Donald Trump. It’s no mystery why the book’s release coincided with a flood of parachute journalism into “Trump Country” that, a year later, is still going strong.

*Hillbilly Elegy* was hailed from both sides of the political aisle, a rare accomplishment during politically divisive times, and it proved to be as popular as it was provocative. Whereas the New York Times praised it as “a compassionate, discerning sociological analysis of the white underclass that has helped drive the politics of rebellion,” Elegy was also criticized by many for advancing a narrative of Appalachia as a homogenous white region crumbling under a poverty created by its own lazy culture. “Elegy is little more than a list of myths about welfare queens repackaged as a primer on the white working class,” wrote the New Republic’s Sarah Jones.

Despite the debate, Vance’s book was a hit and he along with it. In the wake of the 2016 presidential election, Vance became mainstream media’s go-to interpreter of Appalachia and Trump Country in general. Appalachia’s characterization in popular culture was recemented as stuck-in-time, poor (due to laziness), white, and undeserving of pity. Throughout it all, Appalachians have spoken out against Vance becoming the mouthpiece for an entire region.
Among those endeavoring to fight back against the narrative of Appalachia Vance promotes is historian Elizabeth Catte, author of **What You Are Getting Wrong About Appalachia**, which is out February 6"...
https://theoutline.com/post/3147/elizabeth-catte-what-you-are-getting-wrong-about-appalachia-interview



"Liberal Shaming of Appalachia; The Elite Media's Obsession with the 'Hillbilly Problem'" Elizabeth Catte, Salon, 2017. >"It’s far less unsettling to blame what are ultimately the failures of technology, the free market and our social responsibilities to one another on backward and provincial people who live in an “other America.” This is a compelling reason for why Kevin Baker, for example, likely feels justified in writing a 2,000-word *hit piece on a county in West Virginia that yielded just 4,629 votes for Trump when his neighbors in Staten Island, New York provided 100,000."
https://www.salon.com/2017/03/21/liberal-shaming-of-appalachia-inside-the-media-elites-obsession-with-the-hillbilly-problem/



JFK campaigning in Logan Co., WVA. The MASS senator won the 1960 Democratic Primary because of the Mountain State.

"Appalachia Isn't The Reason We're Living In 'Trump Country,'" Elizabeth Catte, Feb. 1, 2018
https://lithub.com/appalachia-isnt-the-reason-were-living-in-trump-country/

"I wrote a book—What You Are Getting Wrong About Appalachia—about the myths that shape our understanding of the region, who profits from them, what we can do to resist them, and, perhaps most importantly, why we should. I’ll give you a taste of the work that these myths do by introducing you to McDowell County, WV, one of the poorest communities in the state and a place enshrined by the Guardian, Huffington Post, Circa, the National Post, CNN, and CBS—just to name a few of the outlets with the largest audiences—as the beating heart of Trump Country.

Reporters from Circa even spent election night in McDowell County, and subsequently offered ready a chance to see “what victory looks like in the most pro-Trump county in America.” In prestigious publications Appalachia ceased to be part of America but a destructive force unto its own—no longer a place but a problem now singularly responsible for the most distressing problem of all: a Trump presidency. **Hillbilly Elegy**, embraced as a definitive textbook about the region’s dysfunctional culture, appeared as a frequent citation in such analysis and Vance confirmed this outlook in his transformation from venture capitalist to pundit and political up-and-comer.

But was McDowell County really “Trump Country,” at least in the way the media purported? No. McDowell County, the last Democratic strong hold in West Virginia, experienced the lowest voter turnout in the state, which political reporters with their knowledge of the relationship between poverty and voting behavior should have predicted. Donald Trump did win McDowell County but the majority of eligible voters, by choice, design, or circumstance simply stayed home on Election Day, an outcome common in Appalachia. And it was not a unique culture of dysfunction or economic anxiety that brought Trump voters there to the polls, it was their calculated choice. In this Appalachian voters were not alone and because their beliefs aligned with millions of voters across the country we are all now residents of Trump Country.

By virtue of the election results and polling, we now understand that a broad coalition of white voters elected Trump, not just “hillbillies.” I am the other Appalachia you’ll meet in my book—the women who walked picket lines, and the men who went to war to control their labor. I am the anonymous anti-coal insurgents, I am the hillfolk who fought segregation. I belong to the people who helped destroy mountains but also the people who thought nothing of climbing them to help someone.

Aristus

(66,380 posts)
18. I read it. Quite a while ago.
Sat Mar 2, 2019, 09:11 PM
Mar 2019

It was, by turns, moving and frustrating. It's hard to imagine a people more devoted to perpetuating their own downtrodden status. We've said that about Trumpsters many times: they're siding with their own oppressors. Public hucksters and AM hate radio can only do so much damage; at some point, they have to want to believe the lies that keep them where they are.

appalachiablue

(41,138 posts)
14. You do this regularly and your invective for a place
Sat Mar 2, 2019, 06:03 PM
Mar 2019

you've never even visited is truly exceptional, and definitely pathological. What's clear is that ignorance and hate like yours should be boycotted.

Ginger Snapped

(15 posts)
10. NO NO NO
Sat Mar 2, 2019, 05:18 PM
Mar 2019

you do not need to do anything that would hurt the good democrats in West Virginia, yes some do still exist, me for one. and believe me no one could have been more angry than I was, and ashamed..we are biding our time, and our time is coming....

appalachiablue

(41,138 posts)
15. Thanks, I know there are and were good Dems in WVa for sure.
Sat Mar 2, 2019, 06:07 PM
Mar 2019

Welcome to DU. A few regular, persistently negative viewers, try to ignore although it's difficult at times.

Scruffy1

(3,256 posts)
21. She's my Congresswoman,
Sat Mar 2, 2019, 10:25 PM
Mar 2019

Minneapolis, a highly educated and very healthy city and West Virginia gets GOPers and Oxycontin. Nobody here gives a shit what these stupid assholes think.

Behind the Aegis

(53,959 posts)
23. Disgusting, but not unexpected.
Sun Mar 3, 2019, 04:40 AM
Mar 2019

It is very common for some to tie a person to their entire group. Many minorities face this. For Muslims, they are almost always tied to terrorism and hate crimes against them are committed because people feel justified in blaming all Muslims for the actions of one (or a few) who share the same religion.

This is par for the course for many on the Republican side. It should be called out for the bigotry it is.

ck4829

(35,077 posts)
25. Horrible, but more of the same, and expect more
Sun Mar 3, 2019, 05:21 AM
Mar 2019

Last edited Sun Mar 3, 2019, 07:26 AM - Edit history (1)

Ilhan Omar is getting two minutes hate just like Emmanuel Goldste- George Soros.

 

forklift

(401 posts)
26. In my opinion, such hatred is never sucessful
Sun Mar 3, 2019, 08:04 AM
Mar 2019

and backfires on the people who display it.

If I had seen the poster, I'd have ignored it, shook my head and shrugged .

By rallying against it, what would have been seen by about 500 people would now be seen by 10 million or more.

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